RasmusBolin Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 7 hours ago, knap said: @RasmusBolin Try the TH 451 Have tried for 4 games. 2 Home wins and 2 away loss (one with the B-team in CHL). Should I change anything in the away games? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filip974 Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 Il y a 10 heures, knap a dit : FM 24 WOF 4231 ATT ARSENAL P94 CC ME24WOFKnap4231ATTARSENALP94CC.fmf 45.43 Ko · 44 downloads With Wolves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.M.F.C Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 I'm struggling finding a good tactic for Osasuna. @knap what is the best 433 and 4231 for this kind of medium team ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebel Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 Le 08/11/2023 à 14:51, knap a dit : ME 24 WOF 4231 MHD AP MC P108 CC ME24WOFKnap4231MHDAPMCP108CC.fmf 45.21 Ko · 462 downloads Hey @knap which tweaks would you recommend for this offensive WOF when facing Top teams or away/hard games? Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmdb Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 (edited) 18 horas atrás, Mattjohn disse: Afternoon, Is anyone else unable to load the Cadoni training schedule, it appears when I go to import but am unable to load. @Mattjohn Me. I've tried several ways and I can't load the training schedule. The "load" button does not activate. Edited November 11, 2023 by nmdb user name 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 11, 2023 Author Share Posted November 11, 2023 @nmdb Maybe copy sceenshots. It has been reported Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 11, 2023 Author Share Posted November 11, 2023 @sebel I would try dropping mentality to balanced Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 11, 2023 Author Share Posted November 11, 2023 @I.M.F.C Try the Spurs 451 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmdb Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 20 minutos atrás, knap disse: @nmdb Maybe copy sceenshots. It has been reported Thank you @knap, I didn't realize the issue was being discussed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyws87 Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 can some one send me a link to all set piece routines or straight to downloads Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyws87 Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.M.F.C Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 il y a 47 minutes, knap a dit : @I.M.F.C Try the Spurs 451 Thanks a lot @knap this one ? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 11, 2023 Author Share Posted November 11, 2023 @I.M.F.C Yep 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 11, 2023 Author Share Posted November 11, 2023 @Coyws87 On google docs in OP as SET PIECES Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
omarm88 Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 Using Spurs 4-5-1 above. Wow. OK it's Man Utd but Quintuple in first season using it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty8787 Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, knap said: @Coyws87 On google docs in OP as SET PIECES Nevermind I found it. Edited November 11, 2023 by matty8787 . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glassy Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 On 08/11/2023 at 11:44, knap said: ME 24 WOF 4231 N MHD AMs P102 ALL CUPS ME24WOFKnap4231NMHDAMsMCP102ALCUPS.fmf 45.3 kB · 331 downloads This tactic is a bit cheeky!!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RasmusBolin Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 21 hours ago, knap said: @RasmusBolin Try the TH 451 @knap Sometimes I got a lot of yellow cards, will it be better with time? And sometimes it struggle on away games, should I change something here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 11, 2023 Author Share Posted November 11, 2023 @RasmusBolin I just live them, but they can be managed in game. Home side has an advantage, so can try lower mentality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo1983 Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 Just finished my 1st season with Scunthorpe in the Vanarama National League North using ME24WOFKnap451ATTMMCP101ALLCUPS and using MU26 SPs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taciotenorio8 Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 Winning games with so many goals from corners when you are visibly broken is not fun at all.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glassy Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 Just now, taciotenorio8 said: Winning games with so many goals from corners when you are visibly broken is not fun at all.... Stop using it then. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taciotenorio8 Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 3 minutos atrás, Glassy disse: Stop using it then. I just wanted to say that these good results do not mean that the tactic is working. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo1983 Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, taciotenorio8 said: Winning games with so many goals from corners when you are visibly broken is not fun at all.... The Striker scoring most was not from corners, it was my right-sided CB which scored most of the goals from corners Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapbot Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 23 minutes ago, pablo1983 said: Just finished my 1st season with Scunthorpe in the Vanarama National League North using ME24WOFKnap451ATTMMCP101ALLCUPS and using MU26 SPs Can you share tactic an SP ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo1983 Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, rapbot said: Can you share tactic an SP ? Above is the SP's Above is the tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripoligate4 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 3 hours ago, taciotenorio8 said: I just wanted to say that these good results do not mean that the tactic is working. and we have to say u ,that if ur team has good mentality the tactic will work more harder. like wonder. u know why? coz the game isnt fixed yet...GKS takes goals from every inch of pitch with any way. they dont react to anything. When they fix that we can speak about what is working and what is not. FM23 SP was more broken btw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filip974 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Le 08/11/2023 à 15:44, knap a dit : ME 24 WOF 4231 N MHD AMs P102 ALL CUPS ME24WOFKnap4231NMHDAMsMCP102ALCUPS.fmf 45.3 Ko · 419 downloads Very good with Wolves 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
murmoose Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Struggling to find a consistent away tactic as Liverpool a few seasons in. Barely pick up points against the top four and against big champions league teams away in later stages. Picking a good tactic and going balanced doesn't seem to do much. What's everyone using? Home tactics are perfect - rotate between 'HGF 451 MC P107 ALL CUPS' and 'WOF 451 ATT TH P94 FA' 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnysarg Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 @knap which set piece setup is best for the 424 tactic great tactic got me promoted with dynamo Dresden by 21 points !! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 12, 2023 Author Share Posted November 12, 2023 @Jonnysarg I use MC40 atm with a 424 with Spurs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 12, 2023 Author Share Posted November 12, 2023 @murmoose It is worth trying mentalities down defensive, WBS and DMD, Mid Block remove counterpress. Player OIs - Man mark AI midfield trigger press AMR/L Show onto weaker foot. Also Man marking guide in OP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnpltmert Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 (edited) hello, the game does not see some tactics files. Can someone help me ? Edited November 12, 2023 by cnpltmert add Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 12, 2023 Author Share Posted November 12, 2023 @cnpltmert Is it only 1 file? are you copying download to tactics dir? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnpltmert Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 1 dakika önce, knap said: @cnpltmert Is it only 1 file? are you copying download to tactics dir? i shared 2 image to in the comment above Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 12, 2023 Author Share Posted November 12, 2023 (edited) @cnpltmert That is a set piece file. Open a set piece folder add file. Then in game go to routines and load all Edited November 12, 2023 by knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnpltmert Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 6 dakika önce, knap said: @cnpltmert That is a set piece file. Open a set piece folder add file. Then in game go to routines and load all okay ill try ty so much Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qarqama Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Any chance for a solid 4-2-3-1 (cm's) Or 4-4-2 also with cm's this year or again like last year we gonna have 90% tactics with dm's :C ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 12, 2023 Author Share Posted November 12, 2023 @Qarqama BLACK DOG and WARRIOR are CMs SI consider these formations unrealistic, I suggested a deeper CM role for a double pivot, atm DLP is best option Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikthop Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 (edited) On 10/11/2023 at 10:36, kandersson said: Here's the thing. Despite a dominating season, a million goals scored and all my efforts I couldn't get a striker to really shine and score as expected (or as in FM 23 ). Used the weak Amazonense to try different tactics (started with the 3241 but conceded too many goals against decent teams) and different types of striker (fast strikers still seem the most efficient) though in the end STC was often outscored by AMC (Vini Locatelli won Série C Top Scorer with 15 goals) and even CB (corner kicks are out of control!) and scored around 0,5 goals per game wich is good IRL but terrible for my FM standards . One thing I noticed is the AMC tends to get to the end of crosses/cut backs as often as STC which is probably the reason of AMC scoring prowess. Other than that I can confirm what most people are reporting in feedback: too many goals scored, too many injuries (including goalkeepers), broken player/squad interaction and a few bugs persisting from a decade... Though I'm mostly annoyed that despite probably the most dominating, overachieving season in recent FMs and scoring about a million team goals my strikers posted average numbers . Hey @kandersson, I find the results you got encouraging, but for a rather unusual reason: In every version of FM I always try to create or tweak the tactics I use so my AMC ends up as the team's main goalscorer, so I enjoyed seeing this happening in your save. Do you mind showing Vini Locatelli profile? And your main striker as well? I said the reason was unusual because the "normal" thing is having the striker as the top goal threat, yeah? And if not a striker, it's usually a wide player like a inside forward or something like it. Nowadays it's very unusual to see an AMC being the main goalscorer (like Pelé or Zico in the past) in a more "conventional" tactic, which also employs a ST. (I believe it can work if you go strikerless, but that's not something I'm interested in) In FM23 my favorite tactic was @knap's Pep 3241, same as yours I believe. I tweaked it to make the AMC (ss) the main goalscorer, and tried to turn the ST into a "facilitator", responsible for creating space/chances for the AMC. It kind of worked, in the end the AMC/ss and the ST ended up splitting the goals. This was the AMC statistics in the league: We won the league and had one of the strongest squads though, so a top side, not sure if it would have worked as an underdog. I'm wondering if @knap thinks its possible to create a tactic where a player in the AMC strata ends up being the main goalscorer, and the lone ST works as more of a "creator", pulling defenders out of position, playing through balls to the AMC, playing one-twos, etc? @knap, do you think a tactic like this could work? I don't mind if it is not as good/performant as your normal tactics, I still think your version would end up being better than anything I can come up with. I will still try to create/tweak one by myself like I did for FM23, but I would love to see what you could come up with. In terms of my own tactic/tweak, I think I will use either Pep 3241 or some of Knap's 4411/4141 (using IWB or IFB, not a big fan of traditional WB/FB) as the base. Not sure what works better, if 2 players in the AMC strata like in Pep 3241 (SS + Playmaker), or a lone AMC with another creator playing in the MC/DM strata. Will definitely use a lone striker though, I'm thinking someone similar to peak Bobby Firmino at Liverpool, but instead of helping the wide players (Salah/Mane) score, he should be helping the AMC. And 2 wide players in either MR/ML or AMR/AML helping creating more chances for the AMC as well. I'm not very good at the tactical side of FM, so I would like to hear a specialist's opinion on this matter. Edited November 12, 2023 by Ikthop Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMBevan-Smith Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Hi @knap Can you recommend a 433/451 for Southampton please. And which SP would you use to go with it? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 12, 2023 Author Share Posted November 12, 2023 @FMBevan-Smith WOF 451 TH P94 MC40 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandersson Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 (edited) @Ikthop interesting stuff! I find joy in FM only when I can concentrate the goals on a designated goalscorer and really boost his numbers . Doesn't necessarily have to be a striker though traditionally it's easier in FM that it is in fact a striker (namely a fast striker). My ideal set-up would be using a creative target man type supporting a P/AF/SS goalscorer (in STC or AMC position) I just don't have the tactical talent/patience to make it work PEP 3241 was phenomenal for me in FM 23 as it created lots of chances (and different type of chances) for the striker while also allowing AMC's to shine (I'm a fan of AMC/No.10 too). Unfortunately didn't work the same for me in FM 24 so switched to 4231 with three AP's hoping they'd be mainly creators/passers... I was wrong . I can confirm AMC position in particular (not just Vini Locatelli) seemed to get the most chances and eventually outscored the striker. Locatelli was just an original member of Amazonas FC with decent attributes for AMC and above average quickness for third division (14/14 pace/acceleration), and the strikers I used were mostly speed merchants with no real creativity or playmaking skills. I've signed better AMC's for second season (most notably some personal favorites like Diego Raposo, Jhemerson and Yann Rolim) and the trend of the goalscoring AMC continues. I think atm the ME might have a tendency to favor AMC's scoring at higher rate than before so should be a good year for you . Narrow 4231 with three AMC's seem to have very good ratings too as well as the 4222 brazilian box with two AMC's so you have a few options. Edited November 12, 2023 by kandersson 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikthop Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 (edited) I haven't had time to properly play FM24 yet, so that's great news you just gave me. Thanks mate! Looks like a fast AMC + a striker with good passing/vision/creativity and not so good finishing/speed might be a good start. This way the ST might be more selfless and look for a pass first before attempting to shoot (will also try to teach them that ppm). Edited November 12, 2023 by Ikthop Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchyeuw Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 @kandersson Great to hear it about AM/No.10. Which tactic would best fit current Real Madrid squad in order to recreate Jude Bellingham's key role in this playing position? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandersson Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 @Ikthop I think a fast striker stretching defence, moving into channels and keeping CB's busy still helped my AMC scoring goals (assists mostly came from crosses and cutbacks from AMR/L and DR/L). FM just likes fast strikers . Best option might be a fast striker with good passing/vision and high work rate/teamwork plus maybe a set of suitable PI/traits (looks for pass rather than attempting to score, try killer balls often etc) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandersson Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 @Hatchyeuw I don't know, I'm trying to get the striker to score knap has posted narrow diamond tactics similar to current Real Madrid formation so you can try this for example Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuel Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 On 09/11/2023 at 14:53, knap said: WAY GAME TWEAKS - Cautious Mentality WB on supp Can anyone show me how to use set piece routines? or point me to a youtube video? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz da man 2004 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Which 4231 would you recommend for a Cardiff save Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMBevan-Smith Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 (edited) Do we just have to accept ridiculous scoring games in FM now? Or is it just me? Games are always 4-2 or 5-2 etc. Very rarely low scoring games. No matter what I do with the tactic. I'll pretty much always concede and often the opposition's only chance. All tactics I've tried so far are like this. I've tested about 4 different tactics with Southampton. I've done well, but have always conceded, on average, around a goal a game and more often than not scoring 100+ goals within a 46 game season. For me, it just takes the realism out of the game. I'd like a strong tactic that isn't OP. Edited November 12, 2023 by FMBevan-Smith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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