hp17 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 hour ago, knap said: @hp17 Although winning the League with Sheffield sounds good, it is not really how the game is played, as most use transfers to improve squad. When using an underdog you will have much more rng and tests can therefore be inconsistent. The idea of test leagues is to eliminate the problems associated with testing. in normal saves Don't expect Sheffield to be winning the league obviously but I don't know who in the premier League is predicted to finish 20th in the game but say it is Sheffield and Liverpool are predicted to finish first. You used the 2 teams to test it and Liverpool finished first and Sheffield finished say 8th-10th. It'll show that this tactic is useable with smaller teams and would make it easier for people who are managing underdog teams to use this tactic to outperform where they're expected to finish? Just thought it would make the testing a bit more interesting as obviously with all of your testing the top team that you pick wins the league whereas if you added a second team, I'm sure they would fluctuate positions on each save and as a result would help determine which tactic is the best and which one outperforms the game? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
longruoi1 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, hp17 said: Don't even mean testing that low mate. Even when you're testing with Liverpool in the save, couldn't you do the testing for like say a Sheffield United, Burnley or a team like that in the same testing that you post? Would be interesting to see how the team's predicted to finish lower down defy the odds with the tactics I think @knapshould stick with an all around team such as Liverpool. Liverpool have a strong squad that can adapt to many formation, they have only 2 new signings and the players are gelled together already. Those things really help eliminating a lot of RNG when you are testing ideas for new tactics. So instead of spending time setting up a team like Sheffield to fit his ideas, Knap should just use Liverpool to test, and keep prolifically providing us great tactics as he has been doing. Edited January 15, 2021 by longruoi1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pske96 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Which is the best tactic right now for the league and the champions league? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuzojr Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 12 hours ago, jjacopo said: 173 goals scored rotating players a lot using FM21.5DARKSIDEOFTHEMOONKnapP107ALLCUPSSalahgoals78 Which position did you play Fati ? And how did he perform? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickyt11 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Sorry to ask this but just wanted to know if these are classed as 'cheat' tactics designed to find a flaw in the system? Reason im asking is i read somewhere im fmscout that these tactics are not realistic - HOWEVER i prefer these tactics just suits me as i dont have time and skill to be in and out changing things, though i assumed these are realistic? Not criticising these tactics as i said i use them just wondered cause i keep seeing high points totals and thing people are saying its not realistic? To me it's i dont see an issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjacopo Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 ora fa, yuzojr ha scritto: Which position did you play Fati ? And how did he perform? hey mate, I'm in 2030, Fati was already at another team when I got hired at Barca 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daherlihy Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 11 hours ago, knap said: FM 21.5 ME TIME 4123 P105 CC FM21.4TIMEKnap4123P105CC.fmf 45.3 kB · 28 downloads Shouldn't this be 4213 rather than 4123? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 @hp17 If you run 2 teams in a league you run into a pronlem straight away as they have to play each other. Also there is a bug and often running 2 teams the tactics can be changed in the 2nd team.. If results fluctuate in any scientific test then you have a major problem with the testing data. I will switch to test leagues soon just taking time to set them up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 @mickyt11 There are no exploits and therefore no cheat tactics. It is obvious that FM is not the same as real football, which is much more dynamic .Many of the tactics will standard 442 451 4231 type tactic I would say that these are game tactics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVSeason Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) What tactics are you all using for away and difficult matches? I've won 40 straight home games with Warrior 442,but losing narrowly in knockout round of CC, and a few upsets in away games. Thanks for all of your contributions Knap! Edited January 15, 2021 by CVSeason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PG2060 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Is there a New Tea For The One 4411 ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 @CVSeason Try dropping LOE as low as possible.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) @daherlihy Yes - now changes thanks Edited January 15, 2021 by knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickyt11 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 28 minutes ago, knap said: @mickyt11 There are no exploits and therefore no cheat tactics. It is obvious that FM is not the same as real football, which is much more dynamic .Many of the tactics will standard 442 451 4231 type tactic I would say that these are game tactics. Cheers mate, i thought that, much appreciated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY1969 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 hour ago, knap said: @CVSeason Try dropping LOE as low as possible.. what is LOE? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TobyDK Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 12 minutes ago, TONY1969 said: what is LOE? Line of engagement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY1969 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, TobyDK said: Line of engagement Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomokij4v Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 18 hours ago, jjacopo said: 173 goals scored rotating players a lot using FM21.5DARKSIDEOFTHEMOONKnapP107ALLCUPSSalahgoals78 what tactic bro ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MVC Posted January 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 15, 2021 31 minutes ago, tomokij4v said: what tactic bro ? really? 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 @PG2060 The TEA 4411 is still working. As it has a high line I will post a version with a std DL. I willl post a YT Vid as had to play with 10 and deployed the lower LOE. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 FM 21.5 ME TEA FOR ONE 4411 P101 EC FA FM21.5Teafor OneKnap4411P101ECFA.fmf 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddy505 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Used FM21.5Venom&FaithKnap4132CP108CC First season with FC Groningen, won the league and got these kind of performances from the flying Dutchman! Still got it at 37 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuzojr Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Hi Knap, are there any PPMs you think go well with the different positions in your tactics? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 @yuzojr It is being worked on @LVercetti 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drhay53 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 on the topic of PPMs, it's important to be careful about PPMS like "gets forward whenever possible" with regard to midfielders and mentoring, because most of the tactics have a DLPS somewhere and if you have your AM setting up mentoring, you could get "gets forward" and "runs with ball often" and all kinds of ppms spread all across to people you don't want to have them. It's annoying to the point where I almost prefer that none of my players have ppms related to movement; inside forwards with cuts inside for instance can be a real pain when they pass that ppm around to all of your attackers. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pske96 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Can you suggest the best tactic please🙄🙄 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 FM 21.5 ME TEA FOR ONE 442 P103 EC FM21.5Teafor OneKnap442P103EC.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) FM 21 TACTICS GOOGLE DOCS https://bit.ly/knap2021 YT Channelhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCILCgjDOjzTjS2OjaTpwxJg Tactic table available from Baden Powell Weighted attributes Pdf Attribute_Weights.pdf.pdf35.17 kB · 59 downloads Filters from The Prof filters_110854 (1).zip182.39 kB · 25 downloads TEST RESULTS You can use results in a few ways. Top covers say top 5 Clubs in Division Mid the next 7 and then under dog. Just use totals as an all round tactic. Use best top at home and best underdog away or difficult games. You can mix and match with your preferred formations. It is just a guide to help identify right tactic. RDF TRAINING SCHEDULES For_Knaps_Tactics_One_Match_RDF.fmf19.24 kB · 176 downloads For_Knaps_Tactics_Two_Matches_RDF.fmf19.24 kB · 148 downloads Edited January 18, 2021 by knap 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickyt11 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Trying to use a tactic for AC Milan, to match their current squad. Thinking of a 4231 in 21.5 version but not sure which i should be using. Any idea? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) FM 21.5 ME TEA FOR ONE 442 W P107 FA FM21.5Teafor OneKnap442WP107FASalah70goals.fmf Edited January 16, 2021 by knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 FM 21.5 ME HOLY GHOST FIRE 4132 P105 ALL CUPS FM21.5HOLYGHOSTFIREKnap4132P105ALL CUPS.fmf 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruffer23 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 @knap just starting a new save with Leicester any thoughts on the ideal tactic please ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stremka Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) 7 часов назад, knap сказал: FM 21.5 ME HOLY GHOST FIRE 4132 P105 ALL CUPS FM21.5HOLYGHOSTFIREKnap4132P105ALL CUPS.fmf 45 \u043a\u0411 · 36 downloads New record! You break this ME. Main striker have a goal ~ every game Edited January 16, 2021 by Stremka 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommickTT Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Hello @knap Do you have any 2 strikers set up with Time set of tactics on 21.5? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souljacker Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) Liverpool dont lose a single game all season =/ Edited January 16, 2021 by Experienced Defender unsanctioned video/link 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 @tommickTT Sort google docs by tactic name so you can see all TIME Tactics available. If not a 442 I will try to set one up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommickTT Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 @knap I've spotted 2 i the google doc, but links are not leading to the tactics. TIME 442 P103 EC FA TIME 41212 P103 EC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 @tommickTT Links fixed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallings11 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Has anyone found a consistent away tactic since the 21.5 update? If so, i'd love to know. Been testing so many tactics and all so inconsistent away from home. AI running the length of the pitch and then dinking the goalkeeper, once again SI ruining the game with these updates! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVSeason Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 On 14/01/2021 at 18:48, longruoi1 said: I think @knapshould stick with an all around team such as Liverpool. Liverpool have a strong squad that can adapt to many formation, they have only 2 new signings and the players are gelled together already. Those things really help eliminating a lot of RNG when you are testing ideas for new tactics. So instead of spending time setting up a team like Sheffield to fit his ideas, Knap should just use Liverpool to test, and keep prolifically providing us great tactics as he has been doing. There is no "gelling" in fm touch. And you can go undefeated with an AM recommended tactic if you are using one of the top 3 teams in the game lmao. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVSeason Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Wallings11 said: Has anyone found a consistent away tactic since the 21.5 update? If so, i'd love to know. Been testing so many tactics and all so inconsistent away from home. AI running the length of the pitch and then dinking the goalkeeper, once again SI ruining the game with these updates! I have been using Warrior 442 with lowest line of engagement and it has worked the best for me. On mobile so I don't have the filename but it's a top one on the fmscout table. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stian Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Spoiler @knap DARK SIDE OF THE MOON 4312 P107 ALL CUPS link does not work in google docs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjacopo Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 22 ore fa, tomokij4v ha scritto: what tactic bro ? FM21.5DARKSIDEOFTHEMOONKnapP107ALLCUPSSalahgoals78.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stian Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 @knap, link to DARK SIDE OF THE MOON 4312 P107 ALL CUPS in google docs is not working, can you fix it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekkzz Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 @knapwhat do think it's the best 442 for a team that predicted 4th i PL? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
radetzky Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Il 15/1/2021 in 11:36 , knap ha scritto: @CVSeason Try dropping LOE as low as possible.. @knapdropping d-line is the only tweak for big matches or lowering the mentality to cautious still works? I am still with 21.4 so no way to try myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreed Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 @knap do you have an ETA on testing leagues? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 @agreed Have you not noticed the numbers apperaring 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreed Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 @knap i see now. nice! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreed Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 @knap was using dark side of the moon 4132 all season and while it was very high scoring i was still dropping the occasional silly points. mainly in the big away games but also at home to teams like norwich and derby. i was still flying in the league but still wanted more. just noticed you updated the spreadsheet so switched to the hgf pts105 which is currently in the lead (still early days of course as you've only tested 3!) but it is doing absolutely amazing so far. and you made it way back in november! almost at the end of the season so no point posting any screenshots as i've used several different tactics. will hopefully finish a whole season with the hgf and post some results. also it's my birthday today so will be sending you some beer money later no doubt when i'm drunk. really appreciate all the time and effort you put in to this to make it more enjoyable for the rest of us. it's crazy to think i've been using your tactics since 08 i think? cheers knap! 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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