knap Posted January 23, 2021 Author Share Posted January 23, 2021 @agreed I used it in vid above just to close out game. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreed Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, AaronRedDevil said: Manchester United | Season 1 Results | DARK SIDE OF THE MOON 4312 P106 EC FA Salah 75 Goals Won both Premier Division & European Cup. Beat Liverpool at home on last game of season to win league and beat Man City 3-0 in UCL final Thoughts on tactic: 1. Very dependent on the strikers who get vast majority of goals. Suffered mid-season slump in results when they stopped performing. 2. Not that easy to build squad for formation due to need of ML & MR plus other positions 3. 2nd half of season after drop in performance I played with Positive mentality, Standard defensive line and removed "Get Stuck In" As always, great work Knap! bet that final game was nerve wracking! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronRedDevil Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, agreed said: bet that final game was nerve wracking! You are right! Had to wait until 81st minute for a Marcus Rashford freekick! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreed Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 1 minute ago, AaronRedDevil said: You are right! Had to wait until 81st minute for a Marcus Rashford freekick! bloody hell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
superharber Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 1 hour ago, knap said: @superharber I've updated tactic just waiting for vid to process What did u change mate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 23, 2021 Author Share Posted January 23, 2021 @superharber Strikers PIs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Par1s Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 @knap i would like to sent you a message but for some reason you can't receive. Can you please check and notify me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 23, 2021 Author Share Posted January 23, 2021 @Par1s Just a full inbox Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drhay53 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 @knap personally I would probably just test pretty randomly, and try to get a good mix of formations tested. That way people can play whichever formation they like. It's hard to say exactly what the difference is between the liverpool test and these longer tests without knowing what players are being used in the longer tests. Do they have PPMs? Is their footedness right for IF vs W for instance? All of these things are variables that will cause scatter. But in general, if you're looking to find the "best" tactics the fastest, the plot I made indicates that testing in descending order of Liverpool points is the most likely path. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandersson Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, AaronRedDevil said: Manchester United | Season 1 Results | DARK SIDE OF THE MOON 4312 P106 EC FA Salah 75 Goals Won both Premier Division & European Cup. Beat Liverpool at home on last game of season to win league and beat Man City 3-0 in UCL final Thoughts on tactic: 1. Very dependent on the strikers who get vast majority of goals. Suffered mid-season slump in results when they stopped performing. 2. Not that easy to build squad for formation due to need of ML & MR plus other positions 3. 2nd half of season after drop in performance I played with Positive mentality, Standard defensive line and removed "Get Stuck In" As always, great work Knap! It's pretty much been my go-to tactic for FM 21, for me personally this formation outperforms all the others. The key is having very fast strikers, creative out and out wingers (right foot on right side, left on left) and good passers at every position. IWB's in particular will act as extra playmakers and play effective killer balls. I've greatly overachieved in different countries and various lower leagues using this tactic. Edited January 23, 2021 by kandersson 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles.F Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) @knap Which tactic is best to use as an underdog team (Fulham) Edited January 23, 2021 by Charles.F Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 23, 2021 Author Share Posted January 23, 2021 @Charles.F Sourt underdog column and that will give the top tested tactics for under dogs 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
radetzky Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 8 ore fa, Par1s ha scritto: I’m using the same formation but with IF instead of IW. I’m managing Fiorentina and I already won the CL twice. Using FM21.5PaeisienneWalkwaysKnapPar1s424IWP110FA and just changing IW with IF? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Par1s Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 @radetzky no mate. I’m using the one with positive mentality and IF’s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andre62 Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Invincible first season with Rangers testing tactic tweak of knap just change the roles of the players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisCom Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 (edited) Is this happening to anyone else? I'm getting constant xGs around 3 and opponents getting xG around 0.8, but they score with every shot. They'll have 5 on target and score 4, I'll have around 14 and score 2. I've tried 21.5HolyGhostFire 451 and a few others, just constantly conceding, I was wondering if anyone else has found this on the new match engine? My last match for example, its happening pretty much every match. How do you score 5 with an XG of 1.18? Once in a while I'd be fine with but 8 games out of 20 so far? Edited January 24, 2021 by ChrisCom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauvais Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 1 hour ago, andre62 said: Invincible first season with Rangers testing tactic tweak of knap just change the roles of the players could you upload this tactic. I like 442 tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
superharber Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 1 hour ago, mauvais said: could you upload this tactic. I like 442 tactic Use venom and faith 442 👍 class Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
radetzky Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 (edited) 8 ore fa, Par1s ha scritto: @radetzky no mate. I’m using the one with positive mentality and IF’s. Could you tell me which one exactly? The 4231 with If's? After having updated to 21.5 my go Tactics (vermom and Faith) seems less effective against top teams especially away and the suggested tricks (go cautious and lower the LOE) sometime works and sometimes does not works. Edited January 24, 2021 by radetzky Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
radetzky Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 7 ore fa, ChrisCom ha scritto: Is this happening to anyone else? I'm getting constant xGs around 3 and opponents getting xG around 0.8, but they score with every shot. They'll have 5 on target and score 4, I'll have around 14 and score 2. I've tried 21.5HolyGhostFire 451 and a few others, just constantly conceding, I was wondering if anyone else has found this on the new match engine? My last match for example, its happening pretty much every match. How do you score 5 with an XG of 1.18? Once in a while I'd be fine with but 8 games out of 20 so far? You have been FM'ed... It's clear and it s common thing since last year... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cudny95 Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Is there a reason I'm unable to sort the columns out on the google doc? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 24, 2021 Author Share Posted January 24, 2021 @Cudny95 Nope. were they sorting before? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 24, 2021 Author Share Posted January 24, 2021 FM 21 TACTICS GOOGLE DOCS https://bit.ly/knap2021 YT Channelhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCILCgjDOjzTjS2OjaTpwxJg Tactic table available from Baden Powell Weighted attributes Pdf Attribute_Weights.pdf.pdf35.17 kB · 59 downloads Filters from The Prof filters_110854 (1).zip182.39 kB · 25 downloads TEST RESULTS You can use results in a few ways. Top covers say top 5 Clubs in Division Mid the next 7 and then under dog. Just use totals as an all round tactic. Use best top at home and best underdog away or difficult games. You can mix and match with your preferred formations. It is just a guide to help identify right tactic. AWAY GAMES SUS With regard to Away games it depends upon your own risk factor. I am gung ho and prefer to attack and perhaps win 1 game in 3. If isk adverse then use a defensive tactic and perhaps draw all 3 games. As a defensive formation I would use 4141 as it has a DM and protects wings, and KINGSTONIAN 4141 would be my choice. I use 3 DLs std higher much higher. If AI are going for balls over top then std but if AI attacking you can leave at higher ormuch higher. The LOE can be adjusted with or without DL adjustments. The simple answer is just drop LOE.. I use Cautious positive and attacking mentalities. For a SUS these are ideas to use. Use 4141 formation Remove pass into space Stop WB runs by go ing to defend or no nonsense FB Use Defend on DM or most defensive MC Change mentality Positive/cautious Add Time wasting Change from counter press and counter and full SUS would be to regroup and hold shape I tend to judge what to use by how the game is progressing as you may just to want to control game rather than a full SU SHOUTS FROM CADON Calm Down (win by 1 goal diff) - Praise (win by 2 goal diff) - Berate (loss by 2 goal diff) - Demand More (loss by 1 goal diff or draw) RDF TRAINING SCHEDULES For_Knaps_Tactics_One_Match_RDF.fmf19.24 kB · 176 downloads For_Knaps_Tactics_Two_Matches_RDF.fmf19.24 kB · 148 downloads Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Par1s Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, radetzky said: Could you tell me which one exactly? The 4231 with If's? After having updated to 21.5 my go Tactics (vermom and Faith) seems less effective against top teams especially away and the suggested tricks (go cautious and lower the LOE) sometime works and sometimes does not works. The FM21.4ParisienneWalkwaysIF mate. ID 214013 on knap’s google sheet. Edited January 24, 2021 by Par1s 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamieac Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 4 hours ago, radetzky said: You have been FM'ed... It's clear and it s common thing since last year... Since as long as I can remember.... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreed Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 using the 4141 when playing tough away games seems to be working wonders. don't really want to use it at home aswell cos i find it such a boring formation. obviously fm being fm now my away results have improved i lose at home to newcastle putting an end to a 53 game unbeaten home run then get pumped by city a few games later. that might be because i've been using parisienne424 this season where as before i was using hgf451 home and away results below - check out the games i used 4141. have never had that success before just using 1 tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREEKkOPITE Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 13 hours ago, andre62 said: Invincible first season with Rangers testing tactic tweak of knap just change the roles of the players hi m8 can you post the tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andre62 Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 @mauvais@GREEKkOPITE 4-4-2 Knap Tweak.fmf 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB8 Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Hello, everyone and Knap! I want to ask you one question... Which is the best tactic for 21.5 version for top team (Real Madrid, Liverpool, Juventus)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuzojr Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 5 hours ago, agreed said: using the 4141 when playing tough away games seems to be working wonders. don't really want to use it at home aswell cos i find it such a boring formation. obviously fm being fm now my away results have improved i lose at home to newcastle putting an end to a 53 game unbeaten home run then get pumped by city a few games later. that might be because i've been using parisienne424 this season where as before i was using hgf451 home and away results below - check out the games i used 4141. have never had that success before just using 1 tactic Which 4-1-4-1 were you using mate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreed Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 (edited) @yuzojr https://community.sigames.com/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=443044 wasn't sure how to copy a link it's the kashmir 4141 kingstonian anyway Edited January 24, 2021 by agreed 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuzojr Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, agreed said: @yuzojr https://community.sigames.com/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=443044 45.71 kB · 329 downloads Cheers mate! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuzojr Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 FM21.5DARKSIDEOFTHEMOONKnapP107ALLCUPSSalahgoals78.fmf is a crazy tactic. Thank you Knap! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
horned frog 94 Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 (edited) 20 hours ago, andre62 said: Invincible first season with Rangers testing tactic tweak of knap just change the roles of the players This worked great for me (the one match I used it)...I was in the first knockout round of the CL having lost the away match 3-1 to Inter (I'm Espanyol). Decided to switch to this for the home match without really having the players for it, and I'm only 3 years in the game with my top player probably being either Tonali or Loftus-Cheek and my top striker is Gnotto so kinda good but not great. And again, I really didn't have the players for this as I've been switching from a 4-3-3 to a 4-2-3-1 for most of the season. Oh and I definitely didn't have anyone worthy of a decent target man...had to play Ruben-Loftus Cheek there and he bagged 2 goals. Smashed Inter 4-0 to win 5-3. They only had maybe 4 shots altogether whereas I had around 20 if I remember correctly. Small sample size and all that but well done mate, I liked it and it got me through to the CL Quarters! Edited January 24, 2021 by horned frog 94 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonas12 Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 2 hours ago, yuzojr said: FM21.5DARKSIDEOFTHEMOONKnapP107ALLCUPSSalahgoals78.fmf is a crazy tactic. Thank you Knap! link pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuzojr Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, jonas12 said: link pls This one FM21.5DARKSIDEOFTHEMOONKnapP107ALLCUPSSalahgoals78.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KakaSCP Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 best 41212 ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Robot Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 What does LOE mean? Both lines or just the offensive one @knap? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andre62 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) @horned frog 94 great that works for you but just a tweak the all tactic credits are for @knap he built the whole tactic Edited January 25, 2021 by andre62 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
superharber Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Hey @knapis it possible to have the Parisenne 4-2-3-1 with IF Attack on left and IW on the right? Your other tactic TIME 4-2-3-1 has and IF(s) on the left and his ratings are always low Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
radetzky Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 8 ore fa, Mr.Robot ha scritto: What does LOE mean? Both lines or just the offensive one @knap? Line of engagement. Offensive line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Robot Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 minute ago, radetzky said: Line of engagement. Offensive line. thx @radetzky Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgib900 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Time 108 All cups smased it @knap 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stian Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Not a tactic question, but where could i download Logos, any decent links? And jerseys? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kreindeker Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Me: Oh well this was a good run in the Champo, Barcelona in the quarters is impossible so let's just have fun Decided I might as well try something, so put Kingstonian 4141 on and... well I think it speaks for itself. Our wage bill is 150k per week, theirs is 4.5m 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 25, 2021 Author Share Posted January 25, 2021 @stian Baden Powell is your friend Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KakaSCP Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 13 horas atrás, KakaSCP disse: best 41212 ?? ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 25, 2021 Author Share Posted January 25, 2021 @KakaSCP Sort google docs test results for top 41212 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomba Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 warrior 442 IWB P104 EC link is not working Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
superharber Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 8 hours ago, rgib900 said: Time 108 All cups smased it @knap 4231? Nice mate what type of side u got in that year? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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