knap Posted November 24, 2021 Author Share Posted November 24, 2021 @stevetemp I noticed in Spurs thread that Kwark made 109pts using I believe KASHMIR 433. There probably were transfers involved but should be attainable, as can win PL with Arsenal starting squad with 98pts. The OP has ideas on being more defensive, has a guide on man marking and a mentality matters guide. You are at a big disadvantage playing Top 4 Away.. In general a 4141 formation should be a good option but I would try the 451 HB tactic. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronRedDevil Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 2 hours ago, knap said: @stevetemp I noticed in Spurs thread that Kwark made 109pts using I believe KASHMIR 433. There probably were transfers involved but should be attainable, as can win PL with Arsenal starting squad with 98pts. The OP has ideas on being more defensive, has a guide on man marking and a mentality matters guide. You are at a big disadvantage playing Top 4 Away.. In general a 4141 formation should be a good option but I would try the 451 HB tactic. @stevetemp This is always the case, I am playing as Man Utd, crushing it all and away to Man City in UCL quarter final I got stomped 4-1 using 4231 with Positive mentality. Yes I rage quit, yes I tried it again and lost again, rage quit again. Changed to 451 balanced and other tweaks and won 2-0. There is also a lot of variance as well, sometimes you concede or score early. One big piece of advice is you need to remove hard tackling and check your players - Knaps tactics have hard tackling and aggressive players WILL get red cards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
latrell Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Hi Knap do you have any tactics that uses wide canter backs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperBlade Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 On 23/11/2021 at 12:53, knap said: @Charles.F Not running any underdog tests atm. The Villa test are the best guide and 3 atb are near the top. Hi Knap, Where can I find these Villa tests? Also any ideas for being up against the big sides? I am using 4222 Sicilian Vol 3 22.2 I lose to Manu, Liverpool, City, Chelsea 5-6- Nil getting pretty smashed works a charm against everyone else though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 24, 2021 Author Share Posted November 24, 2021 @ViperBlade If you consider the fact that very attacking is working for us then it will be same with AI Lpool MU. Maybe just take off the counter press Aston Villa results are just a list in the thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 24, 2021 Author Share Posted November 24, 2021 @latrell The early ARGUS 3atb but I dropped them in favor of BPDs 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cricketdave Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Is there a SUS tactic available? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 24, 2021 Author Share Posted November 24, 2021 @cricketdave Last years 4141 should still work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asterionas13 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Hi knap. Can I have a good tactic for Newcastle and tottenham plz? Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 24, 2021 Author Share Posted November 24, 2021 @Asterionas13 I would try KASHMIR 433 but you need 3 good strikers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cricketdave Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 9 minutes ago, knap said: @Asterionas13 I would try KASHMIR 433 but you need 3 good strikers Which version? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 24, 2021 Author Share Posted November 24, 2021 @cricketdave Both are worth trying but this is the Arsenal tests. Also BEOWULF 424 is worth a punt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyInzane Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 @knap do you you think Paris VOL 4231 is a viable tactic against top teams even though it is very offensive? I'm playing as barca, end of second season, playing mostly with kids + mbappe, league and cup already in the bag using your ramble tactic. But I kind of like the setup in the Paris VOL tactic and I would like to try it out plus my inverted wingers get mostly bad ratings in the ramble tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FM Artisan Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Apologies if this has been covered already but it's not in the first post and it's hard to scroll through 486 pages... Why are all the tests run with Liverpool? What about underdogs or lower league clubs? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randisco Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Hi there, have any tests been more positive for International management considering the lack of natural tactical familiarity or player relationships? Great work every year, keep it up, thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asterionas13 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 thanks knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
longruoi1 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 6 hours ago, FM Artisan said: Apologies if this has been covered already but it's not in the first post and it's hard to scroll through 486 pages... Why are all the tests run with Liverpool? What about underdogs or lower league clubs? You want to bring the best out of a tactic sp of course you needs a good squad. It is your job to test a tactic of your choice with underdog. Anyway my quick tip for underdogs are 3 at back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilmalm Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Maybe there is no such thing anymore as a good overall tactic which would suit underdog, mid-teams, sub-top and top-class teams, but @knap, do you have some tactics that you know of worked well with several teams on different level this year? Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiss The Rain Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 I do tactics testing, use both fmrte and various excel spreadsheets, test tactics several times and enter the results. According to my tests, the top knap tactics definitely include 22BETABEOWULF442WAFKnapVAP99ECFA. Here are the results with the top team, Sampdoria is a middling (1st place in the preview of the season) and Groiter is an outsider (last place in the preview of the season). Use it for any commands and enjoy the result 22BETABEOWULF442WAFKnapVAP99ECFA.fmf 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVercetti Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, pilmalm said: Maybe there is no such thing anymore as a good overall tactic which would suit underdog, mid-teams, sub-top and top-class teams, but @knap, do you have some tactics that you know of worked well with several teams on different level this year? Thanks! These tactics have worked with Villa, Arsenal, West Ham and Brentford. 22BETABEOWULFKnap424IFP105ECFA 22BETAMEARGUSknap3412P100 FM22SICILIAN4222KnapVOL3AFP106ALLCUPS.fmf FM22PreachinBluesKnapLVercettiHB451 FM22ARGUSknap3421P107FA.fmf FM22PARISKnapPar1sLVER4231SSIWP110CC Edited November 25, 2021 by LVercetti 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVercetti Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 54 minutes ago, Kiss The Rain said: I do tactics testing, use both fmrte and various excel spreadsheets, test tactics several times and enter the results. According to my tests, the top knap tactics definitely include 22BETABEOWULF442WAFKnapVAP99ECFA. Here are the results with the top team, Sampdoria is a middling (1st place in the preview of the season) and Groiter is an outsider (last place in the preview of the season). Use it for any commands and enjoy the result 22BETABEOWULF442WAFKnapVAP99ECFA.fmf 44.97 kB · 11 downloads If you would like to join the discord we do a similar style of testing there https://discord.gg/nAnZC88q Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
longruoi1 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, pilmalm said: Maybe there is no such thing anymore as a good overall tactic which would suit underdog, mid-teams, sub-top and top-class teams, but @knap, do you have some tactics that you know of worked well with several teams on different level this year? Thanks! From my experience any Argus 3 at back will bring good results. The key point is that it is more solid with 3 CB, while goals are plenty with very attacking and set pieces. Edited November 25, 2021 by longruoi1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 25, 2021 Author Share Posted November 25, 2021 @FM Artisan I use Lpool to set up tactics. If you look at last years google docs you can see the amount of testing that is carried out with other teams, including lower league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 25, 2021 Author Share Posted November 25, 2021 @Randisco It may be worth trying TIME Tactics as no PIs, so players have more freedom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Just finished first season as Newcastle using WARRIOR 4222 VOL and all I can say is wow Great work @knap and anyone else who helped create/test this tactic! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 25, 2021 Author Share Posted November 25, 2021 @CrazyInzane The @Kiss The Rain tests were with a VA ttactic, so I would give it a try. Does well with Spurs as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 25, 2021 Author Share Posted November 25, 2021 @Spike Any transfers? How did you do against the top clubs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 25, 2021 Author Share Posted November 25, 2021 @pilmalm Many of the tactics can work whatever the level, especially if you can make a few good transfers. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, knap said: @Spike Any transfers? How did you do against the top clubs? @knap There were quite a few transfers tbf, so the squad was massively improved. IN - SUMMER (£227.2m) Alexander Isak (Real San Sebastian) @ £38m Renan Lodi (Atletico) @ £24m David Neres (Ajax) @ £22m Andrea Belotti (Torino) @ £20m Kingsley Coman (Bayern) @ £19m Gianluca Mancini (Roma) @ £18m Andre Onana (Ajax) @ £18m (£20.5m) Joe Gelhardt (Leeds Utd) @ £16.5m (£19.5m) Tanguy Nianzou (Bayern) @ £12.5m Kevin Mbabu (Wolfsburg) @ £8.5m Denis Zakaria (Monchengladbach) @ £8m Moussa Niakhite (Mainz) @ £7.5m (£8.5m) Dani Ceballos (Madrid) @ £7m Julian Alvarez (River) @ £4.7m Elye Wahi (Montpellier) @ £3.5m (£5.25m) IN – JANUARY (£11m) Khellven (Paranaense) @ £9m Santiago Munoz (Snatos Laguna) @ £2m I did also sell around £75m worth of players to offset some of this. I expected things to take a while to settle with all the new signings, but hit the ground running scoring 6 against Villa & Wolves in the first two games. There were a lot of goals scored by Centre Backs from corners. Lost away a Man C & Man U and drew away at Villa & home to Liverpool (last game of the season). Won every other game comfortably. Edited November 25, 2021 by Spike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 25, 2021 Author Share Posted November 25, 2021 @Spike I suppose Newcastle has very deep pockets now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVercetti Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Gen Gen Press works in Lower leagues FM22PARISKnapPar1sLVER4231SSIWP110CC 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 31 minutes ago, knap said: @Spike I suppose Newcastle has very deep pockets now. @knap they do. Now to try it with Villa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanleycjames Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Spike said: Just finished first season as Newcastle using WARRIOR 4222 VOL and all I can say is wow Great work @knap and anyone else who helped create/test this tactic! can i see your starting 11 on the tactics page please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 25, 2021 Author Share Posted November 25, 2021 VILLA Test results 22BETABEOWULFKnap424IFP105ECFA FM21.7WARRIORKnapSW442MZP107ALLCUPS VercettiBlues451 22BETAMEARGUSknap3412P100 FM22SICILIAN4222KnapVOL3AFP106ALLCUPS.fmf Paris IWBs FM22PreachinBluesKnap451VAP104EC 22BETAPARISKnapPar1sLVER4231SSIFP104 FM21.4PaeisienneWalkwaysKnapPar1s4231P100 22BETAPreachinBluesKnap451P105ECCC 22BETABEOWULFKnapCrusho4231P104 FM22WARRIORKnap4222P100ECFA ME21.7HOLYGHOSTFIREKnap442P251 22BETAPILGRIMAGEKnapIWB4132NP102ECCC FM21.6ECHOESKnap4231P111P100FACCP244 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 13 minutes ago, stanleycjames said: can i see your starting 11 on the tactics page please @stanleycjames I can't access FM22 at the moment as i'm at work, but it was; GK - Onana DR - Mbabu DCR - Mancini DCL - Niakhite DL - Lodi DMR - Willock DML - Zakaria MR - Saint-Maximin ML - Neres STCR - Belotti STCL - Isak Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 25 minutes ago, knap said: VILLA Test results 22BETABEOWULFKnap424IFP105ECFA FM21.7WARRIORKnapSW442MZP107ALLCUPS VercettiBlues451 22BETAMEARGUSknap3412P100 FM22SICILIAN4222KnapVOL3AFP106ALLCUPS.fmf Paris IWBs FM22PreachinBluesKnap451VAP104EC 22BETAPARISKnapPar1sLVER4231SSIFP104 FM21.4PaeisienneWalkwaysKnapPar1s4231P100 22BETAPreachinBluesKnap451P105ECCC 22BETABEOWULFKnapCrusho4231P104 FM22WARRIORKnap4222P100ECFA ME21.7HOLYGHOSTFIREKnap442P251 22BETAPILGRIMAGEKnapIWB4132NP102ECCC FM21.6ECHOESKnap4231P111P100FACCP244 Thanks @knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanleycjames Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Spike said: @stanleycjames I can't access FM22 at the moment as i'm at work, but it was; GK - Onana DR - Mbabu DCR - Mancini DCL - Niakhite DL - Lodi DMR - Willock DML - Zakaria MR - Saint-Maximin ML - Neres STCR - Belotti STCL - Isak my team is way better than this but Man utd humbled me using thesame tactics loool Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danm2301 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 @knap Currently doing a Leeds save, finished 4th in first season. Found my tactics worked quite well, would go on unbeaten runs for 6/7 games then lose/draw a couple. I was switching between a 4-2-3-1 and a 4-3-3. However, I want to understand my tactics a little more and create a 4-2-3-1 formation that is playing out from the back, pressing and quick in transition. Short quick passes that try and create openings for low crosses or the playmaker slipping in the striker. Ideally want my team to play it into the middle, with the full backs overlapping, overloading the defends to be able to cut it back to the the wingers and striker. But also be able to play it out wide and cut it inside when needed. have you got a tactic for that? Any advice/suggestions is welcome Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 25, 2021 Author Share Posted November 25, 2021 @Danm2301 I would say most of the tactics play that way. However, if you are happy with your own tactic the last thing you want to do is to start using downloads. Far better to experiment and watch how the tactic plays out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus12 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 halfway through the season. tactic - FM22ARGUSknapVA3412P101FACC. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danm2301 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 30 minutes ago, knap said: @Danm2301 I would say most of the tactics play that way. However, if you are happy with your own tactic the last thing you want to do is to start using downloads. Far better to experiment and watch how the tactic plays out. That’s fair! Do you have any suggestions on what roles I should have my players on to make best of that sort of style? what’s best for the wingers, CAM, ST, full backs and CM’s? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 25, 2021 Author Share Posted November 25, 2021 @Danm2301 I am probably hugely biased towards what works for me and it is better to keep an open mind. I would recommend watching a few videos by the Cult of FM, who is a EUFA B Coach. You tube vids at the Baden Powell site. His Man City tactic vid is worth watching as well as a general guide and one of mine likened to Mourinho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
longruoi1 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 4 hours ago, stanleycjames said: my team is way better than this but Man utd humbled me using thesame tactics loool In this FM even the same team can play very differently with different morale and condition. And that also applies for AI team to make any comparison as hard as possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulinho26 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Just finished first season as Newcastle using WARRIOR 4222 VOL and all I can say is wow Great work @knap and anyone else who helped create/test this tactic! Plug and play ? Or do you manage the training schedule and all the press conferences and team talks? Can you share your team aswell? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 25, 2021 Author Share Posted November 25, 2021 ME 22.2 ARGUS 343 IF P101 FM22ARGUSknap343IFP101.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danm2301 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 4 hours ago, knap said: @Danm2301 I am probably hugely biased towards what works for me and it is better to keep an open mind. I would recommend watching a few videos by the Cult of FM, who is a EUFA B Coach. You tube vids at the Baden Powell site. His Man City tactic vid is worth watching as well as a general guide and one of mine likened to Mourinho. I’m happy to hear your bias hah But will definitely give those a look also, cheers dude Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 25, 2021 Author Share Posted November 25, 2021 @Danm2301 Wingers any that fits with tactic. Mostly just use WBs, hardly ever use ball attracters apart from DLP,, Hardly ever use strikers on support unless to mimic an AM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Paulinho26 said: Plug and play ? Or do you manage the training schedule and all the press conferences and team talks? Can you share your team aswell? @Paulinho26 Plug & play I use @knap training schedule (details in op) I handle all of the press conferences & team talks Team is; GK - Onana DR - Mbabu DCR - Mancini DCL - Niakhite DL - Lodi DMR - Willock DML - Zakaria MR - Saint-Maximin ML - Neres STCR - Belotti STCL - Isak Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 25, 2021 Author Share Posted November 25, 2021 ME 22.1 PILGRIMAGE 4132 Narrow p100 EC FA FM22PILGRIMAGEKnapIWB4132NP100ECFA.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrell1017 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Knap, I've tried both the 4141 an 451 HB on an online save when away in big games. I'm Man City and suffered a heavy defeat using the 4141 9-0 against Chelsea. Then suffered a 6-0 against Liverpool. What tactic should I use in big away games because those two seem to not be working. At home I'm unbeaten using the 4222, but big away games the team just get rolled over. Any tips? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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