knap Posted November 3, 2018 Author Share Posted November 3, 2018 It is difficult as playing more expansive does leave you more open to the sucker punch, especially the long over the top ball. To try and force a goal pushing right up with max CD but lower mentality can work. With the new tactics what may work is dropping DLine coupled with highest line of engagement. Another is to go wide and focus down wings maybe with hit early crosses but then you can easily lose possession. One formation from last year was a 4123 - 1 MC 2 W and 3 Fwds that could work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 3, 2018 Author Share Posted November 3, 2018 (edited) I was down in EC Final in extra time and changed to this set up to daw and win on pens added Max CD as well Edited November 3, 2018 by knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam0510 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 5 hours ago, knap said: I was down in EC Final in extra time and changed to this set up to daw and win on pens added Max CD as well Sorry if this has been asked thousands of times, but i'm using your 4-5-1 or 4-2-4 with Dortmund now in my second season. Team is relatively strong at home but struggle away. I have Belotti up top and he just doesn't score away from home and can quiet often drop to 6.5 rating for away games. I haven't had time to mess around with tactics like in previous games so am at a dead end trying to do well away from home. Have you got any tactics that you think would do well against stronger teams away such as PSG and Bayern? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geomprikos Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Knap do you have plans for any 41221;; Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share Posted November 4, 2018 This is 41221 just I call it 451 or do you mean with AMs rather tan IFs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geomprikos Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 My fault....i meant if you have plans for another version;; Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geomprikos Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 And another question:to pilgrimage need change to catius at dificult games; Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share Posted November 4, 2018 If using cautious helps. The mentality is just the most suitable to get results with my test game. I would normally try other formations before looking at other ways to set up a 451. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fribbe Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Would it be possible to make a more possession-oriented 451? Avg. possession is around 50%, win it in some and lose it in others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share Posted November 6, 2018 Not a number I usually check but I thought about 55?% with MU Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mersk Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Been trying out this tactic with Liverpool, doing ok so far with 8-2-1 after 11 matches, joint top of table. However my attackers don't seem to be scoring much - Gomez and van Dijk have 7 goals between them while Mané and Salah only have 4 combined. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share Posted November 6, 2018 From corners - maybe if I weaken the corner set up the strikers will score Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mersk Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Yeah, 8 goals from corners so far. It's a strange one though... the attackers aren't scoring much, and apparently the team is finding it difficult to string passes together. But they're still creating the most chances of any team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share Posted November 6, 2018 How about key passes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mersk Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, knap said: How about key passes? 3 of my players in the top 20 (Fabinho, Salah, Mané) all with 14 each, which is joint 11th. #1 has 20. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share Posted November 6, 2018 If you take the corners out then key passes are still good overall Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Scout Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 10 hours ago, mersk said: Yeah, 8 goals from corners so far. It's a strange one though... the attackers aren't scoring much, and apparently the team is finding it difficult to string passes together. But they're still creating the most chances of any team. "Target man" strikers could be efficient as there are lots of corners, crosses, free kicks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mersk Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, Chief Scout said: "Target man" strikers could be efficient as there are lots of corners, crosses, free kicks. Maybe, but that doesn't sound very tempting. I'm not about to buy Benteke and Carroll back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Scout Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 hour ago, mersk said: Maybe, but that doesn't sound very tempting. I'm not about to buy Benteke and Carroll back With 2 strikers formation, you should try a combination. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geomprikos Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Knap pilgrimage for teams like arsenal and inter is home or away tactic;;;; Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 7, 2018 Author Share Posted November 7, 2018 All the tactics can be used home and away but if using BEOWULF Home the PILGRIMAGE gives the extra defender. Even during a match you can switch between tactics if you have right players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geomprikos Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Yes i understund that but i am a lover of 41221 and i cant play any style of 442 so i want t make 2 pilgrimage ..one home and away...the original for you is more offensive or defensive(for teams like inter and atsenal).... thanks man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fribbe Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 In my experience this works well both home and away Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 7, 2018 Author Share Posted November 7, 2018 I was trying high possession but I can't see that it is disclosed in FMT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 7, 2018 Author Share Posted November 7, 2018 Possession stats Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 7, 2018 Author Share Posted November 7, 2018 Nice win in EC Final just shading possession Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 8, 2018 Author Share Posted November 8, 2018 Tested with Lpool in FMT no OIs Training AM !FM19PILGRIMAGE451KnapPLpool98Ca.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djhagster Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 On 07/11/2018 at 09:56, Chief Scout said: "Target man" strikers could be efficient as there are lots of corners, crosses, free kicks. 17 hours ago, knap said: Possession stats @knap which version of this tactic are these screenshot from? Also. I am trying a strikerless version of this one, would you like to try it out? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 8, 2018 Author Share Posted November 8, 2018 1st tactic in OP with Ca for cautious or counter attack to try to keep possession. Do you have any results? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djhagster Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 16 minutes ago, knap said: 1st tactic in OP with Ca for cautious or counter attack to try to keep possession. Do you have any results? I have a few with Dulwich Halmet in friendlies but not tested properly with a big team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 8, 2018 Author Share Posted November 8, 2018 LL has too many variable and friendlies are not a good indicator. If you have FMT holiday unemployed until 1st game of season, then pick a top club to test. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meiras80 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 (edited) 52 minutos atrás, knap disse: LL has too many variable and friendlies are not a good indicator. If you have FMT holiday unemployed until 1st game of season, then pick a top club to test. hi knap im a big fan of your tactics since you start sharing. this year after the update on the game what the most efective formation? the one that you always use? i Edited November 8, 2018 by Meiras80 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djhagster Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 58 minutes ago, knap said: LL has too many variable and friendlies are not a good indicator. If you have FMT holiday unemployed until 1st game of season, then pick a top club to test. Ok cheers. I will do that and post results after a season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meiras80 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 hi knap im a big fan of your tactics since you start sharing. this year after the update on the game what the most efective formation? the one that you always use? i Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 8, 2018 Author Share Posted November 8, 2018 MIDSOMER has been around since FM 16 and a simple Flat 442, and the Volante tactics are based on this tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meiras80 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 6 horas atrás, knap disse: MIDSOMER has been around since FM 16 and a simple Flat 442, and the Volante tactics are based on this tactic. thanks knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
norrelschip Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Hi knap, any chance of making a press version of the Pilgrimage 4-5-1? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 Someone asked for a possession tactic so I went that way with OILGRIMAGE 451. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
norrelschip Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 23 minutes ago, knap said: Someone asked for a possession tactic so I went that way with OILGRIMAGE 451. Maybe then a 4-5-1 version of Beowulf? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakiano Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 On 08/11/2018 at 02:23, knap said: Tested with Lpool in FMT no OIs Training AM !FM19PILGRIMAGE451KnapPLpool98Ca.fmf Hello Knap, will ruin the tactic if I change the left winger into left IF? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 I will try a 451 Press later Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 may get a conflict with Mez Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakiano Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 7 minutes ago, knap said: may get a conflict with Mez what about changing positions between MEZ and CAR, and left WINGER and right IF? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 Also the WBs as it is a covering type tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrHo Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 !FM19PILGRIMAGE451KnapPLpool98Ca.fmf Squad: Willem II (EREDIVISIE) 5 games: 3W 2D (against PVS 2-2) Stats: First in average possession 62% and first passes completed = 2134 Goals: 10-3 Undefeated 6 in a row. First half year used PILGRIMAGE P100C: finished 14th W8 D8 L18 DIFF -18. See much improvments with 98Ca. Thx Knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
norrelschip Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 21 minutes ago, knap said: I will try a 451 Press later Thanks, that's appreciated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 62% Possession is good . I could not check average possession as I set tactic up in FMT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakiano Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 11 minutes ago, knap said: Also the WBs as it is a covering type tactic. Yes yes, them also. I will continue with this tactic with my BVB save, so I will post results later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrHo Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 (edited) 62% it s VERY good if you consider Willem II has a weak point (orange) in term of passes quality... Edited November 10, 2018 by BrHo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakiano Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Knap, are there any articles from you about tactics, for beginners even tho I am not a beginner but suck at making tactics haha? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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