pleb16 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Thanks Smurph, I'm also from Ireland Sorry I was trying to say how I'd prefer a chromebook but that this might not be possible. I actually read that article so stop looking at chromebooks but had alright started writing my comment and forgot to edit! Thanks again for your assistance. Fair play to you and the other lads for providing some much in depth info You guys have a lot of patience! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
groppo Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Hi I enjoy playing football manager and I now have the funds to build a good computer, I am after some advice with the following: How many cpu cores can football manager use? *was thinking of an intel i7-6950X 10 core cpu, however the price puts me off purchasing does it offer any advantage over a quad core i7 to my football manager game? maximum ram used? *Does this make much difference should i get large amounts like 64gb? or will settling for 16gb be okay? Last I looked football manager was limited is this still the case? Graphics Card? *The new gtx1080 cards look amazing and was thinking about purchasing for future VR gaming however will this offer an advantage in football manager or should I settle for a different card and forget about VR altogether to keep cost down? Motherboard? *I was looking at the Asus ROG Rampage V Edition 10 Socket 2011-v3 8-Channel HD Audio Extended ATX Motherboard if i was to go expensive with the I7-6950x but if you lot recommend downgrading my potential rig what motherboard will be good? All I want to do is be able to load all players and whizz through without the painfully slow loading times, ideally can I load all leagues and achieve this too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 I'd be tempted by the 6850K to be honest. Get a M2 SSD and a larger backup drive in ssd. RAM - anything 8gb above will be good. If you get 16gb it will be plenty. But if you have the budget to go higher then why not? Graphics Card - the GTX1080 is a bit overkill for FM - but if not why not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Don't forget new processors are due in the 1Q of 2017. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
groppo Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Don't forget new processors are due in the 1Q of 2017. Really so soon after the 6850k release? will it be worth the wait? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
groppo Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 I'd be tempted by the 6850K to be honest.Get a M2 SSD and a larger backup drive in ssd. RAM - anything 8gb above will be good. If you get 16gb it will be plenty. But if you have the budget to go higher then why not? Graphics Card - the GTX1080 is a bit overkill for FM - but if not why not. yeah know the graphics would be overkill but spending that much on a cpu I may as well install a 4k and vr ready card to justify the expense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 6850 was released in Q2 of 2016. Might be a new one on the way in Q2 2017. Hard to know what and when will be released. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
groppo Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 oh fair enough think the 6850 should be enough for me, but will fm fully make use of it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delvi Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Q1-2017 will be available Kaby Lake CPUs, which are quad core. It is not expected a huge boost of performance from Skylake CPUs though. 6850 is a different architecture and in the end it's gonna be much more expensive since you'll need a X99 mobo. I doubt that FM is actually using more than 4 cores, maybe a good Skylake even if cheaper would make process faster since on single core calculations it's faster. My suggestion is to get Z-170 and 6700K, already available and cheaper than Xeon (and performing great). For the rest 16GB and a 960 GPU are more than enough to play FM at maximum details. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
groppo Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Q1-2017 will be available Kaby Lake CPUs, which are quad core. It is not expected a huge boost of performance from Skylake CPUs though. 6850 is a different architecture and in the end it's gonna be much more expensive since you'll need a X99 mobo. I doubt that FM is actually using more than 4 cores, maybe a good Skylake even if cheaper would make process faster since on single core calculations it's faster.My suggestion is to get Z-170 and 6700K, already available and cheaper than Xeon (and performing great). For the rest 16GB and a 960 GPU are more than enough to play FM at maximum details. those where my original thoughts can you recommend the best z-170 board money can buy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
groppo Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 would it be Gigabyte GA-Z170X-GAMING G1 ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delvi Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 ASRock Z170 Pro4 has an excellent performance/cost ratio in my opinion. Also Gygabyte, ASUS and MSI would be a great choice though, you can't get wrong. ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackem742 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Okay, thanks to everyone for their advice earlier on in this thread. Ive been looking around and found this one on Amazon too, I get paid on Friday so thats when I will be ordering it, this one sounds good to me however I may be wrong as Im not a technical lad when it comes to laptops! Newly Refurbished HP ProBook 6450b Internet Ready Laptop computer. Wireless enabled - Intel Core i5 2.4Ghz M520 processor - 4Gb memory - 320Gb hard disk - DVDRW - 14" Screen - Webcam - Windows 7 Pro installed https://www.amazon.co.uk/Refurbished-6450b-Internet-computer-Wireless/dp/B01HRYHMH0/ref=sr_1_3?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1469537490&sr=1-3&keywords=HP+Probook+6450b Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Okay, thanks to everyone for their advice earlier on in this thread. Ive been looking around and found this one on Amazon too, I get paid on Friday so thats when I will be ordering it, this one sounds good to me however I may be wrong as Im not a technical lad when it comes to laptops!Newly Refurbished HP ProBook 6450b Internet Ready Laptop computer. Wireless enabled - Intel Core i5 2.4Ghz M520 processor - 4Gb memory - 320Gb hard disk - DVDRW - 14" Screen - Webcam - Windows 7 Pro installed https://www.amazon.co.uk/Refurbished-6450b-Internet-computer-Wireless/dp/B01HRYHMH0/ref=sr_1_3?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1469537490&sr=1-3&keywords=HP+Probook+6450b That processor is about 6 years old, and I'd imagine the computer itself is about that old. I think it would run FM ok. However, if it doesn't run it ok you could always return it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Is it ok that I bump this thread back up? It was lost when the forum changed over and it's an important thread given the amount of replies. I reported the thread was broken when the forum changed and it seems to be fixed now. Thanks for fixing. Bump. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malicious Penguin Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Hey guys... So my existing laptop died mid-FM yesterday - totally switched off. It's back on again now, but given it's age, the fact it burns to touch the bottom of it when the CPU is pushing 100% and sounds louder than a plane taking off, I'm not going to try FM again. I've a budget of £500 and I'd like the best I can have - for 3D, half a dozen or so leagues, big database - I'll go just over it for value, and I don't mind a refurbished one. Thanks! (Edit: I've had another look through, and was wondering which of these would be recommended the most - or is there a better option?)http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/X555UJ-XO070T-ASUS-X555UJ-XO070T_1829327.htmlhttp://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/NX.G3HEK.001-Acer-Aspire-E5-574G_1925700.html <-- My gut says thishttp://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/CB-CZ5840-1010XK-Cube-Chameleon-CZ-5840_1841718.htmlhttp://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/X556UB-XX039T-ASUS-X556UB-XX039T_1970470.htmlhttp://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/K501UB-DM020T-ASUS-K501UB-DM020T_1845634.html EDIT 2: Also seen these http://www.ebuyer.com/748760-msi-gl62-6qd-gaming-laptop-9s7-16j612-409http://www.ebuyer.com/737456-msi-gl62-6qc-gaming-laptop-9s7-16j612-065https://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-15-6-Inch-Notebook-i5-5200U-Graphics/dp/B00YRY8KDE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleasedToMichu Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Good bump Smurf as i have a question to ask! Currently play FM on my 2013 Macbook Pro (Intel Core i5 duo core, 2.6ghz, 8gb ram). Love the laptop, but every time i go to play FM it goes scorching hot within about 5 mins and the fans just overboard and are so unbearably loud. So my question is this, Welshace posted this laptop a few pages back: http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/N551VW-FW238T-ASUS-N551VW-FW238T_1829315.html. Would this be a lot better for playing FM on? FM, OOTP 17 and Rimworld to be precise, as those other two games i will be buying soon. My main two categories are how well they would play the games (like a nice big database on FM) and the amount of heat it would pour out while playing. Read a few reviews of people saying it doesn't get hot at all due to good vents, and some reviews saying the opposite, which is helpful! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorganWalker Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 I have my birthday coming up shortly and will have around £350-450 to spend,would much rather order online due to assistants in store tend to drift you away from the product you want onto a more expensive one, anyway Ye I have around £350-450 to spend and I'm looking for a laptop that will run football manager smoothly, 3D isn't a preference I'm madly considering but if available then I would like it. I'm also in sixth form so The laptop would be used for coursework also! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 17 hours ago, Malicious Penguin said: Hey guys... So my existing laptop died mid-FM yesterday - totally switched off. It's back on again now, but given it's age, the fact it burns to touch the bottom of it when the CPU is pushing 100% and sounds louder than a plane taking off, I'm not going to try FM again. I've a budget of £500 and I'd like the best I can have - for 3D, half a dozen or so leagues, big database - I'll go just over it for value, and I don't mind a refurbished one. Thanks! Out of the ones you posted I'd go for this http://www.ebuyer.com/748760-msi-gl62-6qd-gaming-laptop-9s7-16j612-409 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 17 hours ago, PleasedToMichu said: Good bump Smurf as i have a question to ask! Currently play FM on my 2013 Macbook Pro (Intel Core i5 duo core, 2.6ghz, 8gb ram). Love the laptop, but every time i go to play FM it goes scorching hot within about 5 mins and the fans just overboard and are so unbearably loud. So my question is this, Welshace posted this laptop a few pages back: http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/N551VW-FW238T-ASUS-N551VW-FW238T_1829315.html. Would this be a lot better for playing FM on? FM, OOTP 17 and Rimworld to be precise, as those other two games i will be buying soon. My main two categories are how well they would play the games (like a nice big database on FM) and the amount of heat it would pour out while playing. Read a few reviews of people saying it doesn't get hot at all due to good vents, and some reviews saying the opposite, which is helpful! That's more than good enough. However, why not just get a laptop cooler for your Mac? You can get a fan one or you get a mat. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Portable-Computer-Cooling-Pads/b?ie=UTF8&node=430481031 https://www.amazon.com/ThermaPAK-HS15A-HeatShift-Laptop-Laptops/dp/B001CBFTFM/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=N97NI7Y539NB&coliid=I2D2FK06AIE2CU Have a bit of research and think about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleasedToMichu Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 7 minutes ago, Smurf said: That's more than good enough. However, why not just get a laptop cooler for your Mac? You can get a fan one or you get a mat. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Portable-Computer-Cooling-Pads/b?ie=UTF8&node=430481031 https://www.amazon.com/ThermaPAK-HS15A-HeatShift-Laptop-Laptops/dp/B001CBFTFM/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=N97NI7Y539NB&coliid=I2D2FK06AIE2CU Have a bit of research and think about it. Thanks for the answer mate. These are defo are option. I'm not literally just changing laptops because of the heat and noise, i want to play a few more games i've seen on steam but some need higher specs than i have at the moment, and are also windows only, so just debating changing for that reason. Not sure i can be bothered to go through the hassle of selling my Mac though really! EDIT: actually, a couple of though fans look really good and apparently run with almost no noise and have universally good reviews, might go for one of them. Thanks again Smurf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 15 hours ago, MorganWalker said: I have my birthday coming up shortly and will have around £350-450 to spend,would much rather order online due to assistants in store tend to drift you away from the product you want onto a more expensive one, anyway Ye I have around £350-450 to spend and I'm looking for a laptop that will run football manager smoothly, 3D isn't a preference I'm madly considering but if available then I would like it. I'm also in sixth form so The laptop would be used for coursework also! It's going to be dependent on how many leagues you run. If you run 1 league and nation mostly with a small database then mostly any laptop would be smooth. Either of these http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/T6P47EAABU-HP-250-G4_1886839.html http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/KR39T-Dell-Vostro-15-3559_1963651.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Just now, PleasedToMichu said: Thanks for the answer mate. These are defo are option. I'm not literally just changing laptops because of the heat and noise, i want to play a few more games i've seen on steam but some need higher specs than i have at the moment, and are also windows only, so just debating changing for that reason. Not sure i can be bothered to go through the hassle of selling my Mac though really! The second link you've sent looks good cooling wise, i like the idea of no more noise, just something that improves airflow going away from the Mac. If you're going for gaming then I recommend PC Specialist and skip all that bloatware that comes loaded on laptops. Chassis & Display Cosmos Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD IPS LED Widescreen (1920x1080) Processor (CPU) Intel® Core™ i7 Quad Core Processor 6700HQ (2.6GHz, 3.5GHz Turbo) Memory (RAM) 16GB Kingston SODIMM DDR3 1600MHz (2 x 8GB) Graphics Card NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 950M - 2.0GB DDR3 Video RAM - DirectX® 12 Memory - Hard Disk 120GB KINGSTON UV400 2.5" SSD, SATA 6 Gb (550MB/R, 350MB/W)M.2 SSD Drive 256GB M.2 2280, SATA 6Gb/s (561MB/R, 296MB/W)Thermal Paste ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND (£9)USB Options 3 x USB 3.0 PORTS + 1 x USB 2.0 PORT AS STANDARDBattery Cosmos Series 3 Cell Prismatic Battery Pack (48WH)Build Time Standard Build - Approximately 5 to 7 working daysQuantity 1 Price: £861.00 including VAT and delivery. Unique URL to re-configure: http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/quotes/cosmosXT-15/eyAWBpYagM/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malicious Penguin Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 26 minutes ago, Smurf said: Out of the ones you posted I'd go for this http://www.ebuyer.com/748760-msi-gl62-6qd-gaming-laptop-9s7-16j612-409 Thanks - anything else you've seen in the price range that beats it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Nope Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewisd1992 Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Afternoon guys, first post on here but an avid reader! I'm looking for a laptop at max £650. Preferably with i5 processor, 8gb RAM, SSD hard drive. Graphics wise I'm not too bothered as I prefer the old school 2d look during FM matches. Would also like it to be compact (have seen a couple of 13" laptops). Any help would be appreciated! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malicious Penguin Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 1 hour ago, Smurf said: Nope Cheers Smurf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 1 hour ago, lewisd1992 said: Afternoon guys, first post on here but an avid reader! I'm looking for a laptop at max £650. Preferably with i5 processor, 8gb RAM, SSD hard drive. Graphics wise I'm not too bothered as I prefer the old school 2d look during FM matches. Would also like it to be compact (have seen a couple of 13" laptops). Any help would be appreciated! http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/80TK001BUK-Lenovo-IdeaPad-510s_1958411.html Albeit it's a 14 inch screen - it's a kickass machine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewisd1992 Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 6 minutes ago, Smurf said: http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/80TK001BUK-Lenovo-IdeaPad-510s_1958411.html Albeit it's a 14 inch screen - it's a kickass machine. Cheers for that mate, haven't found a laptop that powerful within my budget, especially as it's running an i7. Never used Lenovo before how do they compare to the better laptop manufacturers? On that note, who would you say make the best laptops? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Personally no experience with Lenovo, but they're a big company and win lots of awards. Best make? Hard to say. Personally, I like MSI - or anything on PC Specialist is usually a great build. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorganWalker Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 3 hours ago, Smurf said: It's going to be dependent on how many leagues you run. If you run 1 league and nation mostly with a small database then mostly any laptop would be smooth. Either of these http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/T6P47EAABU-HP-250-G4_1886839.html http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/KR39T-Dell-Vostro-15-3559_1963651.html Out of these 2 laptops what would I get out of them? How many leagues can I run? could I have 3D? Would there be any lag? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleasedToMichu Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 5 hours ago, Smurf said: If you're going for gaming then I recommend PC Specialist and skip all that bloatware that comes loaded on laptops. *snipped* Cheers Smurf, that one looks fantastic too. Lots of thinking to do i guess! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 1 hour ago, MorganWalker said: Out of these 2 laptops what would I get out of them? How many leagues can I run? could I have 3D? Would there be any lag? Both are almost identical. As for the queries - it's ambiguous, in theory you can run all leagues and all nations and maximum database on any computer, but the lower the specs the worse the speed and performance. They both have an integrated graphics card - so they don't have a dedicated one - and with the integrated the performance for 3D would be best on low quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powermonger Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Decided to upgrade my PC to the following specs: CPU: Intel i7-6700KMB: Asus Z170M-PLUS or Gigabyte GA-Z170M-D3HRAM: 16GB DDR4 memoryHDD1 (OS): 2 xSSD (RAID 1)HDD2 (DATA): 2 x SSD Hybrid (RAID 1) Still looking for a new case, will go for a mATX case this time. I have a full Lian-Li tower now but I no longer need something so large. Any suggestions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 I took my laptop apart today, followed an online tutorial as I wasn't familiar with the Dell models for disassembling. Was a bit tricky with the keyboard but mostly all good. The amount of dust build up in the fan was shocking. I should never have let it get like that. But I did. Anyway. the difference in the noise, performance, etc. of the laptop playing FM is HUGE! Just thought I'd share the success story. As I was about to buy a new laptop for over 2K - but today the car broke down and there's no return, so I bought a new car instead... new computer may wait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewisd1992 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Afternoon guys, I've narrowed it down to these two laptops, which would you guys recommend the most? 1. http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/80TK001BUK-Lenovo-IdeaPad-510s_1958411.html (thanks Smurf) 2. http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/UX301LA-DE176T-ASUS-Zenbook-UX301LA-DE176T_1842513.html Obviously the Lenovo has better specs, but the I've read good reviews about the Asus which is also thinner. Let me know what you think, cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Posted this one earlier. Much better CPU http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/80TK001BUK-Lenovo-IdeaPad-510s_1958411.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleasedToMichu Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 On 13/08/2016 at 22:36, Smurf said: I took my laptop apart today, followed an online tutorial as I wasn't familiar with the Dell models for disassembling. Was a bit tricky with the keyboard but mostly all good. The amount of dust build up in the fan was shocking. I should never have let it get like that. But I did. Anyway. the difference in the noise, performance, etc. of the laptop playing FM is HUGE! Just thought I'd share the success story. As I was about to buy a new laptop for over 2K - but today the car broke down and there's no return, so I bought a new car instead... new computer may wait. Got a feeling this is going to be the next step i need to do on my Mac, it's probably due a good service right about now. Would let Apple do it but i imagine i'll need a small loan to cover it... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keithyboyz Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Hi Guys I looking to buy a new laptop only for using FM and the internet I only use 2D Classic not that bothered by 3D. I am looking for an 1.7 processor and 12GB RAM my budget is £600-£700 Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/80TK001BUK-Lenovo-IdeaPad-510s_1958411.html IT's a 14 inch screen but it keeps popping up on research. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim owen Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Hi, I used to have a laptop Acer Aspire E5-571-304M which ran FM very well for me, 3D and fast processing (at least what I term fast). Unfortunately this broke so I went and bought and Acer Aspire ES1-531-P5SA thinking this was an upgrade. Unfortunately this laptop runs Football Manager exceptionally slow, taking me a very long time to run even a match, and I can walk away from the laptop going from one day to the next even if I really limit my leagues. Can someone offer me advice if the laptop I have bought is worse for FM than the old one or if its something else wrong. Also can someone please recommend an Acer laptop which will run FM slightly better than the original (I say it needs to be Acer cause I have a lot of spare parts (cables and batteries etc) which I would like not to waste). Please keep the price as cheap as possible as I only have limited money and want to spend as small amount as possible Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Depends on what the specs are - can you post both computers in the order of CPU RAM Graphics Card In terms of a new computer What is your budget? What are your expectations from FM: 3D, long career save, fast day to day, etc.? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesfoulds Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 I'm after a new laptop mainly for general use and FM. https://www.pccasegear.com/products/34980/msi-gp72-leopard-pro-17in-core-i7-gaming-notebook-6qf-465au im mainly looking at that. My budget is $1800 AUD. As im australian i dont think i can buy from any of those uk sites. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 That one looks spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim owen Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 2 hours ago, Smurf said: Depends on what the specs are - can you post both computers in the order of CPU RAM Graphics Card In terms of a new computer What is your budget? What are your expectations from FM: 3D, long career save, fast day to day, etc.? Computer 1: CPU - Core i3-4005U, RAM: 4GB Graphics Card: Intel HD Graphics, Share Computer 2: CPU Intel® Pentium® Processor N3700, RAM: 4GB Graphics Card: Unsure Should computer 1 really be so much faster than computer 2? New Computer: Ideally Acer Laptop. Like 3D, career save up to 10 years, as fast as possible day to day. Budget: As low as possible seeing as I already bought a new laptop, max price approx £300 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 I'm surprised that it's that much slower - not really sure why it's all that slower. My only guess would be that your original computer didn't get too hot when playing so it could play without being throttled. Whereas your new computer is probably getting hot and causing the processor to go slower to prevent overheating/damage. Try a laptop cooler. Might also be a good idea to see if the vents are blocked with dust. £300 is a bit of an ask. Looking through some clearance items for you I can find this http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/acer-aspire-e5-573g-core-i5-4210u-4gb-1tb-geforce-920m-2gb-15.6-inch-window-nx.mvmek.011/version.asp It's a bit over your price range. All I can suggest is perhaps saving a bit more and getting something that has longevity rather than a short term solution that requires further investment sooner rather than later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim owen Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 3 hours ago, Smurf said: I'm surprised that it's that much slower - not really sure why it's all that slower. My only guess would be that your original computer didn't get too hot when playing so it could play without being throttled. Whereas your new computer is probably getting hot and causing the processor to go slower to prevent overheating/damage. Try a laptop cooler. Might also be a good idea to see if the vents are blocked with dust. £300 is a bit of an ask. Looking through some clearance items for you I can find this http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/acer-aspire-e5-573g-core-i5-4210u-4gb-1tb-geforce-920m-2gb-15.6-inch-window-nx.mvmek.011/version.asp It's a bit over your price range. All I can suggest is perhaps saving a bit more and getting something that has longevity rather than a short term solution that requires further investment sooner rather than later. Quote Thanks for your help, I too was surprised, the old one ran FM so well, but this one is unusably slow and has been since i bought it. Which is more important for the day to day speed, and match speed, ram or processor . Just wondering so if i can save up a bit more I can see whteher i should be going for an i5 processor or more ram Also should say FM itself recognizes the new one as significantly worse. drops it to half a star performance with only one countries leagues loaded Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim owen Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Also apologies to keep pestering but what do you think of this one relative to the others. http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/a2-refurbished-acer-aspire-f5-571-50s0-intel-core-i5-5200u-8gb-1tb-intel-hd-a2-nx.g9zek.001/version.asp?refsource=LDadwords&crtag=LD&refsource=ldadwords&gclid=CjwKEAjwltC9BRDRvMfD2N66nlISJACq859157zlc2viXbNt5gYndacsVqnOMWGYB3yGiCN7HT5K5xoCpx7w_wcB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 That appears to be sold out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malicious Penguin Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Just a thanks to Smurf - bought the MSI on the last page and running FM with full graphics is amazing. Also, because I'm an idiot, I started a game with all leagues and large database and it took as long to set up as a 3 league game did on my last laptop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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