Smurf Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 18 hours ago, SlayerX said: Fabulous! So many Invisible answers. Thanks, all. Sorry missed your query. i3 processors are generally not great for FM. Although this particular model seems good enough. How it fares, I don't know. If you want a recommendation for a laptop then please post your budget. 17 hours ago, TheHuss said: Any advice as to how this will handle fm 17 and 18 when it's out? I don't imagine the processor would struggle with a large number of leagues and players loaded? Will the graphics card and RAM be okay? https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-yoga-720-2-in-1-15-6touch-screen-laptop-intel-quad-core-i7-8gb-memory-256gb-solid-state-drive-platinum-silver/5722736.p?skuId=5722736 Has no graphics card which means playing 3D matches on low quality etc. RAM and Hard drive all good. 17 hours ago, TheGreatRadish said: I already have a good gaming PC and a highly capable laptop that both run FM like a charm but I want just a little bit more portability and I'm wondering if any users have some feedback using the Surface Pro 4 or the new 2017 Surface Pro? Specifically, how many leagues are you running and how many players have you got loaded? I should point out that I don't really bother with 3D graphics anymore, I'm more than happy with 2D and in all likelihood I'll probbaly stick to FM Touch (though I might venture back to the full game). Given the above, I think the SP4 or 2017 should handle FM2017 nicely but I'm keen to hear how others are getting on before I jump in and buy - I would use it for a variety of things and old-school wargames and when I'm at home I'll be mostly using Steam streaming but still need to be as well informed as I can. I think there was a thread on Surface Pro models - perhaps try searching the forums as I can't find any. On https://www.microsoft.com/en-ie/store/d/surface/8VV4N8VBQG7C/G2H3 Microsoft Surface Pro 4 – 256 GB / Intel Core i5 (8GB RAM) Anything and upwards should be ok. Although it doesn't specifically give you any information on the parts. Hard to know. If you find specs - please post. 1 hour ago, Jamie9898 said: Hi everyone. I'm looking to potentially finance an gaming laptop in the near future Ideally I'd want to be able to run most Europeon Leagues with a few stars in game speed/Performance if that's possible. If anyone has any suggestions then please send them my way. What's your budget? 1 hour ago, Finchie said: Hi all I've currently got this: HP envy 17 notebook pc with 8 GB RAM, Graphics card Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600, Processer Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4710MQ CPU @ 2.50GHz Speakers are gone and it's about 4 years old, on FM2017 there's a terrible lag on 3d games (and when processing during the game week - I usually play with 2 or 3 leagues) so i'm looking at a new laptop for FM18 so I can play the game smoothly. One with better speakers and a CD drive for itunes, other than FM i'm generally just using Word/Excel and browsing the internet, so speed and ease of use needed for these. I'm looking at this ASUS: https://www.johnlewis.com/asus-republic-of-gamers-gl553-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i5-8gb-ram-1tb-hdd-128gb-ssd-nvidia-gtx-1050-4gb-vram-15-6-full-hd/p3167394 and this Dell: https://www.johnlewis.com/dell-inspiron-15-5000-series-laptop-intel-core-i7-16gb-ram-256gb-ssd-amd-radeon-r7-15-6-/p3124483 Not an expert by any means, so if anyone has any advice on whether I should get either one (and why) or any other suggestions, that would be very much appreciated! Thanks in advance for anyone who takes the time to reply. John The Asus is slightly better IMO. The Dell i7 would be optimised to ultra low power (that's what the U stands for) and less power, means less processing, or soemthing along those lines. - it also doesn't have a good as graphics card as the Asus. Found this one around the same price - although I'm still inclined towards the Asus. https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/30021502-Medion-Erazer-X6601_1972462.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie9898 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Smurf said: What's your budget? So far I've been looking to finance one in the £1000-1500 range Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 42 minutes ago, Jamie9898 said: So far I've been looking to finance one in the £1000-1500 range Something like this Chassis & DisplayOctane Series: 17.3" Matte Full HD IPS LED Widescreen (1920x1080)Processor (CPU)Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Processor i7-6700k (4.0GHz) 8MB CacheMemory (RAM)16GB Corsair 2133MHz SODIMM DDR4 (1 x 16GB)Graphics CardNVIDIA® GeForce GTX 980 DESKTOP - 8.0GB DDR5, G-SYNC - Geforce GTX VR ReadyM.2 SSD Drive500GB WD BLUE™ M.2 SSD (up to 545MB/s R | 525MB/s W)Thermal PasteARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/octaneII-17/MxNnXkUJR7/ Now that's a 17 inch screen. Comes in just under 1500 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlayerX Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 No need to apologise, Smurf. I've been looking at an HP 520 G4 (I5 5200OU) https://www.notebookcheck.net/HP-250-G4-T6P08ES-Notebook-Review.163822.0.html How do you think this machine would cope? Budget wise, not really willing to push the boat out. The new laptop will be for work (word processors), if it can handle FM then it's a nice bonus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danthemanwhocan Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 http://www.qvc.com/ASUS-ROG-Strix-17.3-Laptop-i7-16GB-1TB-256-SSD.product.E290535.html?upsh=1&sc=E290536-CSWB Any idea how this will perform with the 17 and 18? How many leagues do you think I would be able to get out of it and how well will it perform with 3d matches? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKB Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, danthemanwhocan said: http://www.qvc.com/ASUS-ROG-Strix-17.3-Laptop-i7-16GB-1TB-256-SSD.product.E290535.html?upsh=1&sc=E290536-CSWB Any idea how this will perform with the 17 and 18? How many leagues do you think I would be able to get out of it and how well will it perform with 3d matches? Thanks if you were to be unhappy playing FM on that, you should never be allowed to play FM ever again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danthemanwhocan Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 11 minutes ago, DKB said: if you were to be unhappy playing FM on that, you should never be allowed to play FM ever again So its not bad then. haha. Thank you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKB Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Just now, danthemanwhocan said: So its not bad then. haha. Thank you! going by Game Debate (100% recommended) CPU 328% performance GPU 430% performance RAM 400% performance --- so you should be fine, even if they should be a bit of here and there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 13 hours ago, SlayerX said: No need to apologise, Smurf. I've been looking at an HP 520 G4 (I5 5200OU) https://www.notebookcheck.net/HP-250-G4-T6P08ES-Notebook-Review.163822.0.html How do you think this machine would cope? Budget wise, not really willing to push the boat out. The new laptop will be for work (word processors), if it can handle FM then it's a nice bonus. I wouldn't put too much faith in it - being an i5-5200u - what's your budget? 10 hours ago, danthemanwhocan said: http://www.qvc.com/ASUS-ROG-Strix-17.3-Laptop-i7-16GB-1TB-256-SSD.product.E290535.html?upsh=1&sc=E290536-CSWB Any idea how this will perform with the 17 and 18? How many leagues do you think I would be able to get out of it and how well will it perform with 3d matches? Thanks There's no way to tell how many leagues/database size etc. Technically all computers can load all the leagues/divisions and large database - it's just the worse the computer is the slower it is, and the better the computer is then the better. And my idea of going slow or fast is different to the next persons. So it's about finding a balance between what you like in terms of how many are loaded and the speed of the game for you - before it starts going too slow. However, it's an excellent computer, I suspect you could play lots of leagues with a large database. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucket Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Hi people. Looking at getting a MacBook Pro 13'. Any ideas of what the best one too look at please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 The best you can afford. Do you really need a Mac? They're not the best value, i.e, they are overpriced for what is under the hood. Unless you have specific software for the Mac. There's only 3 to choose from - 1&2 are almost identical. Although 1 has a smaller hard drive and I wouldn't recommend that on that alone - as FM18 will require 7gb of storage compared to FM17 of 3gb storage. So going forward I'll only recommend 256gb SSDs or above. Option 3 is the best option. option 1 you can tailor to have a 256 gb drive - however it's an extra 200 quid - so might aswell just go for option 2 or 3. In both option 1 and option 2 you can choose a faster processor - but that puts the price up again but it comes in at less than option 3 - but the processor is not as good - apparently. You could go with option 3 and put the best processor on it - but it comes in at £2,219 - which is very expensive. NONE - has an option for a graphics card. Which means 3D matches will be difficult on anything other than a low setting. Consider this 14 inch https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/AERO-14W-V7-CF3G-Gigabyte-Aero-14W-V7-CF3G_2139553.html Far superior graphics card - it has a graphics card for all those 3d matches - a lot more Hard Drive Space - and a lot more RAM. Weight 1.89kg (less than 2 bags of sugar) Considering you can't get a graphics card into a Mac the same specs as above would cost you £2,399.00 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 All processors in Macs are "u" processors - then one spec'd above from Gigabyte offers a far superior model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Macs 13 inch that is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak71 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Hi, FM-ers. Need some opinion here. I'm a noob at this. Currently, my laptop, which I bought in 2013, is running on gtx765m graphic card. My highest setting to run 3d matches is medium. Should I try to make it higher, the matches will be jerky. I intend to buy a new laptop. If I want to run FM2017 and probably FM2018 at the highest setting for 3d matches, will gtx1060 be enough or I need gtx1080..? Thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Get whichever you can afford - just watch out of different models (from better to slower) Desktop • TI • SLI • M • QMax (for thin laptops) All better than the 1060 However the 1060 also comes in a Desktop and a Mobile version. There are other graphics cards out there though for laptops. Looking at them in order of preference All High End AND more than enough for FM. NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 SLI NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 SLI NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080M NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Max-Q NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 SLI NVIDIA Quadro P5200 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070M NVIDIA Quadro P5000 large NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Max-Q NVIDIA Quadro P5000 Max-Q NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M SLI NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 NVIDIA Quadro M5500 NVIDIA Quadro P4000 NVIDIA Quadro P4000 Max-Q NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970M SLI NVIDIA Quadro P3000 NVIDIA Quadro P3000 Max-Q AMD Radeon RX 580 And so on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatRadish Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 On 8/23/2017 at 13:10, Smurf said: I think there was a thread on Surface Pro models - perhaps try searching the forums as I can't find any. On https://www.microsoft.com/en-ie/store/d/surface/8VV4N8VBQG7C/G2H3 Microsoft Surface Pro 4 – 256 GB / Intel Core i5 (8GB RAM) Anything and upwards should be ok. Although it doesn't specifically give you any information on the parts. Hard to know. If you find specs - please post. Thanks version I'm looking as is: Intel Core i5-7300U 3.5 GHz 8 GB RAM 256 GB SDD Intel HD Graphics 620, Windows 10 Pro Like I say, FM Touch/2D only for me. I would imagine I'm most likely to run 4-5 countries and maybe 12-15 leagues, something like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Yeh sounds like it would be ok. Althought, not sure about amount of leauges. It's up to 3.5ghz, it could be anywhere from 2.6ghz and up to 3.5ghz. Most likely at the lower end. You may need to adjust amount of leagues/playable leagues and/or database size. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatRadish Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Smurf said: Yeh sounds like it would be ok. Althought, not sure about amount of leauges. It's up to 3.5ghz, it could be anywhere from 2.6ghz and up to 3.5ghz. Most likely at the lower end. You may need to adjust amount of leagues/playable leagues and/or database size. And of course it is only dual core, been a good number of years since I was stuck with one of those It's frustrating because a number of threads have popped up about Surface Pros but they rarely credit more than 2-3 replies and certainly never expand on their capabilities. If I purchase it'll be in November so time to see what others say but on the face of it, it seems to be capable. The intention is to replace my current tablet and laptop - FM is just a part of what I need it to do and it certainly will beat my current tablet with FM touch, no question. It's a fair chunk of cash for what you get though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak71 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 15 hours ago, Smurf said: Get whichever you can afford - just watch out of different models (from better to slower) Desktop • TI • SLI • M • QMax (for thin laptops) All better than the 1060 However the 1060 also comes in a Desktop and a Mobile version. There are other graphics cards out there though for laptops. Looking at them in order of preference All High End AND more than enough for FM. NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 SLI NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 SLI NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080M NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Max-Q NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 SLI NVIDIA Quadro P5200 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070M NVIDIA Quadro P5000 large NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Max-Q NVIDIA Quadro P5000 Max-Q NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M SLI NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 NVIDIA Quadro M5500 NVIDIA Quadro P4000 NVIDIA Quadro P4000 Max-Q NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970M SLI NVIDIA Quadro P3000 NVIDIA Quadro P3000 Max-Q AMD Radeon RX 580 And so on Thanks Smurf for the reply. Really appreciate. So, would GTX1060 be just nice to run FM2017 at the highest setting for 3D match view or i need to get a better graphic card..? If GTX1060 is just right (or even better), i thought of getting my hand on HP OMEN 15-CE026TX 15" i7 16GB Gaming Laptop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Specs for FM graphics card Graphics Cards: Cards equal to or better than the following: Intel GMA X4500 NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT AMD/ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650 Anything above this should be in theory good enough. However, the GMA X4500 is an integrated into chipsets - and if one was to look at processors with this they may end up with a processor with less than 2.2ghz speed (which is recommended). As long as you stay above the 9600m GT or the Radeon HD 3650 range then you should be good. All 19 posted above are better than those. So they should in theory be good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skr1107 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 How does this one compare to the MSI GL62? https://www.johnlewis.com/hp-omen-15-ax203na-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i5-8gb-ram-1tb-nvidia-gtx-1050-15-6-full-hd-shadow-mesh-pattern-twinkle-black-base/p3152916 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jackrufc Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Hi, I'm a first time poster and in need of advice for a new laptop to play fm17 and eventually 18 in 3d. Budget no more than 500 - so i know i'm pushing the limit. I've found an hp for £429 with a 'radeon r7' graphics card - but I don't know if it is integrated or dedicated? I also don't know if it is better than the minimum specification requirements. https://www.amazon.co.uk/HP-15-ba044na-15-6-Inch-Notebook-Processor/dp/B01N22822L?th=1 There is also a Lenovo for £499 which has a dedicated graphics card: Radeon R5 M430 2GB which i assume is better than whatever is in the hp? It also has more RAM.. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-310-80ST005FUK-15-6-inch-Resolution/dp/B073LYH9RK Would either suffice? Would the Lenovo be significantly better? Open to other alternatives, including refurbs Thanks, Jack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_G_32201 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Chassis & DisplayCosmos Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD IPS LED Widescreen (1920x1080) Processor (CPU)Intel® Core™ i5 Quad Core Processor 7300HQ (2.5GHz, 3.5GHz Turbo) Memory (RAM)8GB Corsair 2133MHz SODIMM DDR4 (1 x 8GB) Graphics CardNVIDIA® GeForce® MX150 - 2.0GB DDR5 Video RAM - DirectX® 12 1st Hard Disk500GB WD Blue™ 2.5" SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (upto 545MB/sR | 525MB/sW) M.2 SSD Drive256GB WD Black™ M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 2050MB/s R | 700MB/s W) Memory Card ReaderIntegrated 6 in 1 Card Reader (SD /Mini SD/ SDHC / SDXC / MMC / RSMMC) AC Adaptor1 x 90W AC Adaptor Power Cable1 x 1 Metre Cloverleaf UK Power Cable Thermal PasteARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND Sound CardIntel 2 Channel High Def. Audio + SoundBlaster™ Cinema 3 Bluetooth & WirelessGIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® AC-8265 M.2 (867Mbps, 802.11AC) +BT 4.0, vPRO USB Options1 x USB 3.0 PORT (Type C) + 2 x USB 3.0 PORTS + 1 x USB 2.0 PORT BatteryCosmos VI Series 6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery Keyboard LanguageSINGLE COLOUR BACKLIT UK KEYBOARD Operating SystemGenuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc DVD & Single Licence could anyone tell me the approx amount of leagues able to run on this please or recommend any suggestions for change? Budget of around £1000 thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 People need to stop asking how many leagues a computer can run. Every computer can run every league with a full database. It's just that the less good the processor is, then the less good the performance and progression from day to day is. The above one has a good processor, and a crap graphics card (3D matches) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 This a general guide - and my own personal opinion - be sure to research each purchase - screen size, weight of laptops are all given in the specs. Any questions or uncertain make sure you ask. I'm not specifically looking at size or weight, but rather what's good for FM based on budget. However, they could be anywhere between 13 and 17 inch screens. Weight is dependent. Please ensure you check specs. Laptop recommendations of the week £0-£450 3D Graphics on Low Settings Computers in this price range - I wouldn't recommend having too many leagues running or a running a large database, medium sized database would be better. Ok https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/1JM44EAABU-HP-15-ba106na-red_2097942.html MY BEST on SHOW https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/T6N58EAABU-HP-250-G4_1958016.html 3D Graphics - would not recommend this computer if you want to play lots of leagues/large database https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/X556UB-DM262T-ASUS-X556UB-DM262T_1966546.html If you're playing for 3D games and you're on a budget - then this computer is for you - however, the amount of leagues and database size needs to be reduced to play on this computer. £450-£600 3D Graphics OK - Acer have a better reputation when it comes to Battery - if that's a concern for you then this will be for you. https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/NX.G66EK.004-Acer-Aspire-V15-in-Black_2095447.html MY BEST on SHOW MSI have a bad rep when it comes to battery life - if this isn't a concern (plugged in all the time) then this is better than the above. https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16J562-1673-MSI-GL62-7QF-1673UK_2066567.html If you don't play 3D Graphics in the game There's no computer in this range that has an integrated graphics card that I would recommend. If you don't play 3D then simply leave this option off. However, both are very good. Depending on your preference. £600-£750 https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/GL552VX-CN239T-ASUS-GL552VX-CN239T_1952541.html https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-179675-220-MSI-GL72-6QD-220UK_2002599.html MY BEST on SHOW https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX553VD-DM169T-ASUS-Gaming-FX553VD-DM169T_2119184.html £750-£1000 At this stage I'd only consider i7 Processors - rule of thumb, the bigger the 1st number is in an i7, the better, for example, i7 7xxx is newer than i7 5xxx. And stay away from the processors with a U after them - as HQ or HK etc. would be better. https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/30021502-Medion-Erazer-X6601_1972462.html MY BEST on SHOW https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX553VD-DM595T-ASUS-Gaming-FX553VD-DM595T_2119185.html You don't have to go to the £1000 price. Just because it's a £1000 it doesn't mean it's the best. Again just my choices based on price range alone - if you find something better then post it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparrow1988 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 So my old macbook pro is slowly dying (2010 model). Could just about run fm17, not brilliantly, but it worked. Hoping to refresh to a newer model from the range, anyone got much experience on performance on newer macs. Not overly bothered about running the 3d engine (still love the 'dots') and running a huge amount of leagues other than all the english ones. Just would be nice for the game to tell me my computer performance is more than half a star. Thanks in advance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev83 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Smurf, I am not currently looking for a new laptop but just wanted to say you do a great Job advising people who may otherwise not have a clue. I'm knowledgable about desktops but not so clued up on laptops and the information you provide has cleared things up nicely so when i do need to look for things i'm not checking 10 different websites with info that might not make any difference for FM. so i guess what I am trying to say is when I am looking in future you may hear from me but if not thanks because all the information you provided will have helped massively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 18 hours ago, Sparrow1988 said: So my old macbook pro is slowly dying (2010 model). Could just about run fm17, not brilliantly, but it worked. Hoping to refresh to a newer model from the range, anyone got much experience on performance on newer macs. Not overly bothered about running the 3d engine (still love the 'dots') and running a huge amount of leagues other than all the english ones. Just would be nice for the game to tell me my computer performance is more than half a star. Thanks in advance If you don't have Mac specific software then they're a colossal waste of money. Especially if you're only FM'ing. If you've got specific software that requires a Mac - then get the one you can afford. They're terribly overpriced for what's under the hood. If you have a specific budget in mind - I'll take a look for you and see what's best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 14 hours ago, kev83 said: Smurf, I am not currently looking for a new laptop but just wanted to say you do a great Job advising people who may otherwise not have a clue. I'm knowledgable about desktops but not so clued up on laptops and the information you provide has cleared things up nicely so when i do need to look for things i'm not checking 10 different websites with info that might not make any difference for FM. so i guess what I am trying to say is when I am looking in future you may hear from me but if not thanks because all the information you provided will have helped massively. Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbluejay Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Hi All, Great thread, it would be even more helpful if I wasn't such an airhead these days! Would I be right in saying that this laptop, now on offer... https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX553VD-DM595T-ASUS-Gaming-FX553VD-DM595T_2119185.html would represent better value for money & performance than this one... https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16J562-1673-MSI-GL62-7QF-1673UK_2080712.html Thanks in advance fellas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparrow1988 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 10 hours ago, Smurf said: If you don't have Mac specific software then they're a colossal waste of money. Especially if you're only FM'ing. If you've got specific software that requires a Mac - then get the one you can afford. They're terribly overpriced for what's under the hood. If you have a specific budget in mind - I'll take a look for you and see what's best. I just enjoy using my mac if im honest. The thing i don't understand is processors. Mine, at 7 years old is running a 2.4ghz intel core duo, whereas the new models ship with a 1.3ghz processor?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbie_start Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Hi all, looking for a new laptop, budget is £900, iv been looking at a couple. http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/asus-k501ux-15-6-laptop-grey-10146453-pdt.html http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-pavilion-power-15-cb060sa-15-6-gaming-laptop-black-10164666-pdt.html I play FM in 3D so would want this, also would these graphics cards be sufficient for FM 2018. If anyone could reccomend a laptop too that would be great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 7 hours ago, mrbluejay said: Hi All, Great thread, it would be even more helpful if I wasn't such an airhead these days! Would I be right in saying that this laptop, now on offer... https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX553VD-DM595T-ASUS-Gaming-FX553VD-DM595T_2119185.html would represent better value for money & performance than this one... https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16J562-1673-MSI-GL62-7QF-1673UK_2080712.html Thanks in advance fellas. Definitely the 1st one is the better computer. They're both nearly identical - but you're right, the first one has a better processor and a slightly betterish graphics card. I'd go for the 1st one. 6 hours ago, Sparrow1988 said: I just enjoy using my mac if im honest. The thing i don't understand is processors. Mine, at 7 years old is running a 2.4ghz intel core duo, whereas the new models ship with a 1.3ghz processor?? I just don't think you'll get the value out of a Mac - if you really want one, then what's your budget and we'll take a look at the configurations Apple offer. I think you're overpaying, and if it's mainly for FM then I think you are wasting your money - and you could could a PC laptop for half the price that's better. 5 hours ago, robbie_start said: Hi all, looking for a new laptop, budget is £900, iv been looking at a couple. http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/asus-k501ux-15-6-laptop-grey-10146453-pdt.html http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-pavilion-power-15-cb060sa-15-6-gaming-laptop-black-10164666-pdt.html I play FM in 3D so would want this, also would these graphics cards be sufficient for FM 2018. If anyone could reccomend a laptop too that would be great. What's posted above is very good and I'd recommend over the two posted here https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX553VD-DM595T-ASUS-Gaming-FX553VD-DM595T_2119185.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Again - my personal opinion - please research screen size, weight of laptop etc. until you're satisfied - please research all elements as posted as it is just my opinion. Laptops of the week £0-450 3D Matches The below would do - but the processor is under powered and would struggle witha lot of leagues loaded and a medium database. Recommend only a few leagues and small database - would suit people who like to play 10 seasons and start over. https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/Products/cat/Laptops/refine/max~450$46567~171251 Non-3D Matches For those who don't necesarily require 3d matches, but wante a longer game play with bigger databases - but on a smaller budget! https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/Products/cat/Laptops/sort/1/refine/max~450$46562~144410$46562~144409$46563~67690 This is ok and would suit some people. Please ask more about it. £450-650 3D Matches https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16J562-1673-MSI-GL62-7QF-1673UK_2066567.html However, more storage and apparently better battery - PRocessor slighly older but more than adequate for FM https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/NX.G66EK.004-Acer-Aspire-V15-in-Black_2095447.html Non-3D Matches None that I would recommend see laptops above and simply do not play on 3D £650-850 3D Matches https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX553VD-DM595T-ASUS-Gaming-FX553VD-DM595T_2119185.html Non-3D Matches None that I would recommend see laptops above and simply do not play on 3D £850-1000 Nothing spectacular to report I think you'll have to go above and beyon £1000 to get something a lot better. However, these are my picks for the week! Hope it helps! Remember to always ask the question before you buy! And Always post your laptop you're going to buy in this thread - as there are some excellent people who can point you in the right direction! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joef599 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16J942-011-MSI-GP62-7RD(Leopard)-011UK_2078098.html Hi Smurf, loads of the MSI laptops around the £800/£900 price range seem exactly the same or very similar The link above is the best from what I can see, but I'm not 100% I just wondered If I'm right as it's all a bit confusing for me Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 2 hours ago, Joef599 said: https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16J942-011-MSI-GP62-7RD(Leopard)-011UK_2078098.html Hi Smurf, loads of the MSI laptops around the £800/£900 price range seem exactly the same or very similar The link above is the best from what I can see, but I'm not 100% I just wondered If I'm right as it's all a bit confusing for me Thanks It looks good as a 15 inch screen There's a similar one to it in 17 inch https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-179586-1007-MSI-GL72-7QF-1007UK_2067944.html Albeit a slightly older graphics card - but they are on par - I would think, certainly good enough for FM. Choice is yours 15 inch vs 17 inch screen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Horizon Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 I'm looking at getting another laptop (one with windows 7) so i can play old games (FM/CM) for my twitter page. dont want to pay over £60 for it. any ideas? was thinking about this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Samsung-RV-series-RV510-15-6-320GB-Intel-Celeron-Dual-Core-2-10GHz-3GB/232474607517?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 No idea what versions of FM/CM or what other games you want to play. It's impossible to recommend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmattb28 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 20 hours ago, Joef599 said: https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16J942-011-MSI-GP62-7RD(Leopard)-011UK_2078098.html Hi Smurf, loads of the MSI laptops around the £800/£900 price range seem exactly the same or very similar The link above is the best from what I can see, but I'm not 100% I just wondered If I'm right as it's all a bit confusing for me Thanks I've got this laptop last week and although its a grand it plays FM absolutely perfectly. Got loads of leagues loaded,large database and all graphics set to full in match. I watch matches in 2D anyway but if 3D's your thing this will run brilliantly. https://www.scan.co.uk/products/156-msi-ge62-7re-apache-pro-28ghz-core-i7-7700hq-8gb-ram-128gb-ssd-plus1tb-hdd-geforce-4gb-gtx-1050t Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamLee Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Hi i am currently looking at getting a new laptop to play FM17/18 with 3d graphics. Im not to keen on the big gaming laptops, I would want something that was more portable and light which also has a really nice screen. has anyone got any recommendations was thinking about getting this http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/dell-xps-15-15-6-laptop-silver-10157223-pdt.html#srcid=11026 which is the top of my budget. I was also looking at a macbook pro with i5 processor but dont think it will run that well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 41 minutes ago, AdamLee said: Hi i am currently looking at getting a new laptop to play FM17/18 with 3d graphics. Im not to keen on the big gaming laptops, I would want something that was more portable and light which also has a really nice screen. has anyone got any recommendations was thinking about getting this http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/dell-xps-15-15-6-laptop-silver-10157223-pdt.html#srcid=11026 which is the top of my budget. I was also looking at a macbook pro with i5 processor but dont think it will run that well. That laptop isn't great at all - for a simple reason the Hard Drive is the slowest hard drive on the market at 5200 RPM and it only boasts a 32gb SSD drive. I've looked around and don't see anything on mainstream sites for you - however, specialists sites do have better options at a much lower price - plus this won't come loaded with bloatware. You can reconfigure to add more RAM or increase the processor - if you really want to top out the 1400 budget you have - let me know and I'll reconfigure. Unique URL to re-configure : https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/optimusVIII-15/AugDWG8v7V/£971.00 inc. VAT Chassis & DisplayOptimus Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD IPS LED Widescreen (1920x1080)Processor (CPU)Intel® Core™ i5 Quad Core Processor 7300HQ (2.5GHz, 3.5GHz Turbo)Memory (RAM)8GB Corsair 2133MHz SODIMM DDR4 (1 x 8GB)Graphics CardNVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1050 Ti - 4.0GB GDDR5 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1 M.2 SSD Drive500GB WD BLUE™ M.2 SSD (up to 545MB/s R | 525MB/s W)Thermal PasteEK-TIM ECTOTHERM THERMAL COMPOUND This comes in a lot cheaper than the Dell one. I've checked a few forums - and people think it's quite portable and light weight - I guess it's subjective. If in doubt, ask over at PC Specialist for a specific weight. 44 minutes ago, bigmattb28 said: I've got this laptop last week and although its a grand it plays FM absolutely perfectly. Got loads of leagues loaded,large database and all graphics set to full in match. I watch matches in 2D anyway but if 3D's your thing this will run brilliantly. https://www.scan.co.uk/products/156-msi-ge62-7re-apache-pro-28ghz-core-i7-7700hq-8gb-ram-128gb-ssd-plus1tb-hdd-geforce-4gb-gtx-1050t Similar laptop here for £150 cheaper https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16J942-011-MSI-GP62-7RD(Leopard)-011UK_2066572.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Horizon Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 3 hours ago, Smurf said: No idea what versions of FM/CM or what other games you want to play. It's impossible to recommend. fm2005 2006 etc can only be played on windows 7. i need the best cheap option laptop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 12 minutes ago, BusbyFergieJose said: fm2005 2006 etc can only be played on windows 7. i need the best cheap option laptop. One you posted should be ok for FM05 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmattb28 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 23 hours ago, BusbyFergieJose said: fm2005 2006 etc can only be played on windows 7. i need the best cheap option laptop. I'd say any laptop would be good for a game that old Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scofib Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Hello looking for a laptop to last me and to be ables to run most leagues have around £500-700 to spend also wanna be able to play 3d matches Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 See earlier posts for my weekly recommendations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 3 hours ago, scofib said: Hello looking for a laptop to last me and to be ables to run most leagues have around £500-700 to spend also wanna be able to play 3d matches 3 hours ago, Smurf said: See earlier posts for my weekly recommendations. This is good - but a small hard drive - so I'd recommend expanding it at a later date, or getting an external drive. https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16J562-1673-MSI-GL62-7QF-1673UK_2066567.html Same laptop - more storage https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16J562-1673-MSI-GL62-7QF-1673UK_2080715.html I've looked at lots of sites, including Amazon, Very, etc. and can't find anything better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapa42 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 So this is just about planning. Which I've done before with no progress, but figure it can't hurt to ask.... Built a gaming PC back in 2011 and its held up surprisingly well. Intel i5-2500K, AMD Radeon 6950 video card (4GB), 8 GB Ram, and a nice big case (HAF X). The mobo went a couple of years ago and I had to replace it, so also upgraded to an SSD for the OS. Power supply went last year and had to replace that. I've been mulling an overall upgrade, but a new processor, mobo, video card, and RAM is going to get pricey. Part of my hesitation is how much of a difference it will really make. I mostly play FM on this rig. I run 25-30 leagues and it starts to slow down after a couple of seasons. But the graphics aren't really a big deal in FM anyway. Play some other games like Farming Simulator (don't judge me), No Man's Sky, and a few others, but not a ton of FPS shooters (those tend to be console games for me). I've seen some recommendations for the new AMD Ryzen processors. Anyone have any experience with them? Back when I built this rig, AMD seemed to be a full step behind Intel, but I'm not so sure that's the case now. Would a newer processor like the AMD Ryzen 1500 or 1600, mobo, and maybe 16 GBs of RAM make all that much processing difference in games like FM? Upgrading the video card is a pretty big investment. Something like a GTX 1060 or 1070 is going to be $300 plus. But sticking with the same video card I currently have will bottle-neck overall performance. That won't matter too much on games like FM, but would moreso on games like No Man's Sky. Still, its a way to do the upgrade in stages and not have to shell out as much at once. Basically, would I see much of a performance boost from a process/mobo/RAM upgrade, and would the bottle neck but too ugly to use the same video card for a time? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyt365 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Wondered what sort of computer would be required to run about a dozen or so of the major leagues in FM17. I have a 6 year old iMac which is in need of replacement. Im opting for a pc to play FM. What sort of barebones kit (Memory, processor) would be required to run those leagues quickly? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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