wally13 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 ive got a qaudcore q6600 2.40ghz 4gb ram system will i get more out of a 32 bit os or a 64 bit os i think my 32bit os only picks up 2.7 gb of my ram.i know this sounds daft but ive asked other people and got a 50-50 feed back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neji Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 64 Bit..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GillsMan Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 64 bit systems are becoming more and more viable as more software and, importantly, drivers are being made to support 64 bit hardware. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hobgob Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 100% 64bit. Looks like I'm running almost the same as you. Q6600 @ 3Ghz 4gb of OCZ Reaper 800Mhz @ 900Mhz 8800GT Go for 64bit I've not had any issues at all yet, and I've a few mates running 64bit and its fine, in fact my 6 year old printer worked instantly! Thank you P&P. It would be best to go Vista 64 as Xp 64 driver support is dwindling. Hobgob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
homerjnick Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 The difference in 32 bit OS and 64 bit OS is quite good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigy18181 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 vista is rubbish mate stick with XP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally13 Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 cheers guys well im on vista now and have't had any problems with it,will the drivers for my internet connection be diffrent on 64bit vo as i have a certain number of drivers on disc that i burnt of just in case i changed my os Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hobgob Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 cheers guys well im on vista now and have't had any problems with it,will the drivers for my internet connection be diffrent on 64bit vo as i have a certain number of drivers on disc that i burnt of just in case i changed my os No, the connection will be the same and all major drivers will be on 64bit anyway. Only thing you really need is GFX driver, then any peripherals. vista is rubbish mate stick with XP I'm fed up of people slating Vista there's nothing wrong with it, its safer and smoother than XP. Its not Microsofts fault if you don't have enough RAM. Hobgob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GillsMan Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 I'm fed up of people slating Vista there's nothing wrong with it, its safer and smoother than XP. Its not Microsofts fault if you don't have enough RAM. Hobgob. Safer, yes, smoother - no. Even with 4Gb of RAM (most XP systems have 2GB or less, and 4Gb is well over the minimum requirements) it's still a very clunky system and performs lower in many processing benchmarking tests tbh. It's not a bad OS at all, and now that there are more and more drivers for it, there isn't too much wrong with it. I have both, but XP is still better in many regards (though Vista does have the winning edge of officially supporting DX10). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
senorcoo Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Yes, same here. 64-bit Vista and the 3D cruises along an absolute treat. It's on my new Gateway P-7811FX (which I got for a song from Best Buy here in the USA) and makes my 4-year old Dell XPS look like a crawling slug. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCfan Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 The only thing I would say about Vista 64 is that it doesn't run a lot of the older programs. There are websites out there that can inform you whether certain games can run on Vista 64. I would believe that most of the new games will run on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hobgob Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Safer, yes, smoother - no. Even with 4Gb of RAM (most XP systems have 2GB or less, and 4Gb is well over the minimum requirements) it's still a very clunky system and performs lower in many processing benchmarking tests tbh. It's not a bad OS at all, and now that there are more and more drivers for it, there isn't too much wrong with it. I have both, but XP is still better in many regards (though Vista does have the winning edge of officially supporting DX10). Ok, you just made it sound as if it were C%&P. Glad we agree. About the benchmark results, thats a given really due to higher system resources, slower benchmark results have and always will be the way, 95 - 97, Xp - Vista, Vista - 7.....etc etc. Hobgob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigy18181 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 No, the connection will be the same and all major drivers will be on 64bit anyway. Only thing you really need is GFX driver, then any peripherals. I'm fed up of people slating Vista there's nothing wrong with it, its safer and smoother than XP. Its not Microsofts fault if you don't have enough RAM. Hobgob. i ran vista for a year with 3 gig of ram and i thought it was ok. But since going back to XP it has been night and day. Vista still rapes your pc. its an OS that will never be a leading OS, businesses hate it and windows 7 on the horizon. Vista will vanish rather quickly in the next 3-4 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally13 Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 right guys im on my laptop now just installed vista ultimate 64 bit tried to use the ethernet controller drivers i have on disc to connect my internet and it says i need the 64 bit driver this is wot i ment,so could 1 of you be a gem and try find me the 64 bit driver please i'll search on my laptop aswell,my pc is a acer veriton m464 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katarian Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 i ran vista for a year with 3 gig of ram and i thought it was ok. But since going back to XP it has been night and day. Vista still rapes your pc. its an OS that will never be a leading OS, businesses hate it and windows 7 on the horizon. Vista will vanish rather quickly in the next 3-4 years. Windows 7 will have the all the same problems as Vista and introduce a whole load of new ones. Back on topic I went for Vista 64bit as I have 4GB of RAM in my machine. I can't even think of a sensible reason why Microsoft released a 32bit version of Vista. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGB_SPURS_FM09 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Apparently windows 7 is everything Vista wanted to be. It gets rid of all the gripes people have with Vista. So it is a lot faster and well i cant wait for that tbh. EDIT: On topic - 64bit is best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPompey Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 right guys im on my laptop now just installed vista ultimate 64 bit tried to use the ethernet controller drivers i have on disc to connect my internet and it says i need the 64 bit driver this is wot i ment,so could 1 of you be a gem and try find me the 64 bit driver please i'll search on my laptop aswell,my pc is a acer veriton m464 The biggest problem with 32 bit and 64 bit O/S decision making is probably not currently whether you have the drivers but whether the software you are running has been coded to work with a 64 bit o/s In the case of FM09 I believe its been written for a 32 bit os and so you will not see a processing improvement. Much like using a quad core or a dual core, assuming you only have FM09 running. It wont hurt but may not be worth the expense. This is true of most games and software My personal preference is XP 32 bit. Vista whilst looking nicer uses more RAM to run the OS than XP so its less ram running your FM09 I work for a major european IT consultancy and we still issue new lap tops with 32bit Win XP (pro) 32bit XP is considered to be the most stable os at the mo We are only just seeing games being coded to make full use of quad cores .... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGB_SPURS_FM09 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 64 bit isn't more expensive then 32 bit. Its only the different variations of Vista that are different in price. Which is why the uptake in 64bit is getting higher as you don't have to pay extra for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_G_32201 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 get 64 bit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally13 Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 cheers mr pompy but like i say ive installed it now so may aswell try it,but need the drivers im on nvida Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally13 Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 i cant find any drivers noooooo!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally13 Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 right i got the drivers im on 64bit now so any tips how to squeeze most from it then,i know not having many programs running in background helps but is there anything else as ive never used a 64bit os before Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pompeyfan Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 BTW if you have 32bit Vista the licence key will allow you to activate 64bit Vista as long as the same version and 32bit no longer used - MS were doing the 64bit discs without a licence to do this for the postage cost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally13 Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 its installed now m8 wot im useing now,just need some tips on how to get most out of it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonBlade Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 But since going back to XP it has been night and day. Vista still rapes your pc. Is it really necessary to use that particular word? You could use slow down, or hogs, or ... well you get the idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigy18181 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Is it really necessary to use that particular word? You could use slow down, or hogs, or ... well you get the idea. apologies for the choice of word then, didnt mean to offend anybody. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally13 Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 all that aside guys any tips please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMaster#28 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 If you have 4gb ram then I 64 bit is the only choice really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally13 Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 yes ive got 4gb mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsk360 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Juan Kassov Artur Boruc can fly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowan vine vine vine Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Is it really necessary to use that particular word? You could use slow down, or hogs, or ... well you get the idea. Rape has more than one use , Some people sit at home waiting to pounce on any little thing . Have a word with yourself how do you get through every day when you can be offended by little things like that ? . Ive just ordered a new comp today i will post the spec below , I can wait to get it should run like a dream . Intel® Core™ 2 Quad Q9400 Quad Core Processor(2.66GHz,6MB Cache,1333MHz) Genuine Windows Vista™ Home Premium with Service Pack 1, 64-bit - English Coolermaster Dominator 690 High Performance ATX Midi Tower + 550W PSU ASUS P5QL Pro Mainboard - Intel P43 - Intel Core™ 2 Duo/ Quad/ Extreme - ATX 8192MB 800MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM - (4 x 2GB) 1TB (1x 1000GB) Serial ATA 2 Hard Drive with 32MB Buffer Blu-ray ROM Player Dual layer DVD Writer 24 x CD Writer 512MB ATi 4850 Graphics accelerator - DVI, DirectX 10.1 PCI Express 2 22" Widescreen LCD TFT Digital Display (DVI, 5ms) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indi75 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 64bit, and Vista has never given me a single problem, not even when stripped of gumph and recompiled. Drivers are fine, software is fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally13 Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 still no tips Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmurfDude Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Rape has more than one use , Some people sit at home waiting to pounce on any little thing . Have a word with yourself how do you get through every day when you can be offended by little things like that ? .Ive just ordered a new comp today i will post the spec below , I can wait to get it should run like a dream . Intel® Core™ 2 Quad Q9400 Quad Core Processor(2.66GHz,6MB Cache,1333MHz) Genuine Windows Vista™ Home Premium with Service Pack 1, 64-bit - English Coolermaster Dominator 690 High Performance ATX Midi Tower + 550W PSU ASUS P5QL Pro Mainboard - Intel P43 - Intel Core™ 2 Duo/ Quad/ Extreme - ATX 8192MB 800MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM - (4 x 2GB) 1TB (1x 1000GB) Serial ATA 2 Hard Drive with 32MB Buffer Blu-ray ROM Player Dual layer DVD Writer 24 x CD Writer 512MB ATi 4850 Graphics accelerator - DVI, DirectX 10.1 PCI Express 2 22" Widescreen LCD TFT Digital Display (DVI, 5ms) Just a quick note; most of that power will go unused unless you are planning on using it as a server. Crysis is still the most demanding game on the market and will run on high with a computer 1/4 the price Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSCCG Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Apparently windows 7 is everything Vista wanted to be. It gets rid of all the gripes people have with Vista. So it is a lot faster and well i cant wait for that tbh.EDIT: On topic - 64bit is best Its a shame because Vista is such a beautiful name and the one that's better is just going to be called "7". yes, choose 64bit. No point not using all your ram if you use vista. Right now I have 4gb ram on xp and it only uses about 3.5, I'm planning to get 7, so I'm gonna hold out till then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
torsportsfan Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Smurf Dude is right on the uselessness. I would go 32 bit, I have 4GB Ram Corsair Dominator and I HATED Vista 64 bit. My games had much slower performance(did not test with FM) and it seemed more bloated. On XP I have 3.25GB but XP NEVER uses that much Ram so its all good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowan vine vine vine Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Ow well i payed my money out so no going back for me ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally13 Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 as no 1 got any tips for me then to get most out of it,ive barley got any programs on,nod32 as anti virus then just other bits and bats like ccleaner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakers Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 64 bit all the way. If you have a decent spec then Vista Business/Ultimate will outperform XP, particularly start up and background tasks. Also, running a 64bit OS on a 64bit processor significantly speeds up the OS itself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally13 Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 yes i have 64 bit processers,but is there anyway to like focus most of its power towards fm when im playing that if you get me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMaster#28 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 as no 1 got any tips for me then to get most out of it,ive barley got any programs on,nod32 as anti virus then just other bits and bats like ccleaner A good tip would be not to get millions of programs which do everything under the sun, but none of them you will ever really use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally13 Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 well like i say ive only got things like ccleaner spybot search and destroy then afew others nothing that hogs my system Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCfan Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 With the older games, a lot of them will have been written for 32-bit operating systems, so it is not beyond the realms of possibility that they will run slower on a 64-bit operating system Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally13 Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 well i have the 64bit installed now so i'll see how it go's,and i get wot your saying lfcfan but surely games nower days should be compatible for both 32 and 64 bit os Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakers Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 With the older games, a lot of them will have been written for 32-bit operating systems, so it is not beyond the realms of possibility that they will run slower on a 64-bit operating system Yes it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCfan Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Very constructive. Please explain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredric Drum Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Beware that some software will still not run on 64 bits, so if any of the programs you need to use can't run, you're out of luck. I had to downgrade from 64 bits for that reason. But I can't see any other reason to choose 32 bits today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally13 Posted November 11, 2008 Author Share Posted November 11, 2008 well i cant see much diffrence at moment but im not sure wot im looking for,like i said i only use my pc for fm and browseing net Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMaster#28 Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 With the older games, a lot of them will have been written for 32-bit operating systems Most newer programs too. FM09 (as far as I know) is still a 32bit program. FM08 was. If you have Vista/XP 64 have a look at the task manager, any program with *32 next to it's name is a 32 bit program. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakers Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Very constructive. Please explain Well provided that they can run on a 64 bit system, Vista 64 will run them just as a 32bit system, and then performance is down to your hardware and not your OS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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