mightypvfc Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 I'm trying to gauge an opinion on this area of the game. I'm currently managing Concord Rangers in VNS. My club are 500K in debt. I have a target set of winning the league and I'm currently on a 7 match losing streak in the league culminating in an 7-2 defeat at Dartford. I'm rock bottom of the league with 1 point and my board confidence is still at 49%. The telling variable is my match confidence is 32% but my club philosophies is something like 62%. In what world does club philosophies trump form? Surely, the board should be paying more attention to results? Also, I should note this is FM18 still. I'm enjoying this save and I haven't made the transition to 19 just yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spurs08 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 I think this is much more an aesthetic issue than anything else. At the start of the season your competition confidence for the league will never go much below neutral - it gives you a chance to get going and means you don't see e.g. huge pressure on Emery because Arsenal lose to City and Chelsea in the first two games and hit the relegation zone. I fully expect after the next game or two this start-of-season adjustment will end, your confidence will tank, and unless you go on a run of good results you're getting sacked. It basically doesn't account well enough for extreme scenarios such as this - it should probably taper off over time and end completely if you've been in such disastrous form that you can't possibly get near where you should be by the end of the early period. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightypvfc Posted November 3, 2018 Author Share Posted November 3, 2018 Spurs, thanks for the response. You raise a good point regarding bedding in time. How would you define the "start of the season"? Somewhere closer to 15-20 games I wonder? I'll see how this pans out. Also, I have another question for the posters. Have you ever been sacked and, if so, after how long in the job? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colbert Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 I've had a few over the years, most recently in my last save in FM18. I was doing well with Everton but fancied a change, so applied for the Juventus job when it came up. I didn't even last a season there - I tried to make too many changes to an ageing team too quickly, and they really struggled to gel. I was sacked in March with the team 7th in the league and having been knocked out of the EL in the last 16 (the board weren't happy at dropping out of the CL, but at least understood that getting utterly thumped by Real Madrid in the process wasn't totally unexpected). I've found over the years that bigger clubs tend to pull the trigger more quickly than smaller ones, kind of like IRL I suppose. I've been binned by smaller clubs a couple of times, but also in FM18 I spent two and half seasons with Peterhead failing to get promotion and still didn't get sacked! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignats75 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Maybe just because my feelings were hurt, but I found board reaction to be nonsensical. In FM 2018, I started a Stoke save. I not only kept them up (Thanks mark Hughes, you idiot), but kept my position for 12 years finishing as high as 4th. The year I was finally sacked (thankfully only a week before the BEta for FM19 came out), I was expected to qualify for the Champions League. I finished fifth, BUT WON THE FA CUP! Yet still got sacked. You would think that a 12 year manager with a very strong reputation within the locker room would've been treated better. I finished 1 spot lower than expected AND WON THE FA CUP!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightypvfc Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share Posted November 4, 2018 That's brutal Ignats. You are Stoke City's LVG! He won the FA Cup with Utd yet was still binned shortly afterwards. Although, granted, your tenure in charge lasted slightly longer than his. I can remember years ago (I forget which version, possibly 11), my expert management drove West Ham to the foot of the PL table. It wasn't long before they offered to let me resign or they'd give me the boot. I'm not a quitter though so.. ended up being sacked. Also, to add to my opening post, I beat Hemel Hempstead in the next league game (I'm finally off the foot of the table, huzzah) but my ecstasy didn't last long as I was soundly put to bed by Sutton Coldfield Town in the FA Cup 3rd Prelims. Sorrowful performance. My confidence has now shifted to "Insecure". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 The board confidence module has imo for some time needed a few tweaks, with the pre-season league expectations taking strong preference over other performances, which would not happen as often in real-life Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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