FM_Guru Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 (edited) INTRODUCTION Firstly, you should know that even if the tactic was tested with decent success on lesser & bigger teams, it might not work with yours depending on the players you have as it revolves strongly on the 2 Volante in the midfield. If you do, however, have all the players fitting the roles, then by all means, enjoy the show 😊 Also, you may notice some similarities with one of Knap’s tactics. I was already working, on streams, on this tactic for quite some time when Knap’s one came out, but since we went for the same formation, I looked into it & used some parts to complete my own (Mostly the Anchor role & the overlaps instructions). TACTIC PRESENTATION If your playstyle is about patience, slow build-up, long periods of possession before attempting a shot, this tactic isn’t for you :p As its name suggests, Lightning Bolt is a fast paced formation that gladly gives away the possession & a huge part of the pitch in order to make an even better use of it once your players get the ball back. What to expect ? Anyone can give an assist at any point in time. The poacher makes deep runs often, & thanks to the pressing line not too high, he has the space to do so, allowing your central defenders & defensive midfields to attempt long passes behind the opposition. A pretty big part of your plays will happen on the wings, you will notice a soft spot in play between your Winger, WingBack & Volante, that often play in a short triangle in order to get rid of the opposition and make enough space for one of them to make a run for it. Your Volante can even break through the center with the ball should the need arise. All in all, the danger can come from anybody anywhere on the pitch, the more you’ll have quality players, the more you’ll notice this. Note however than the tactic still works very well with minor sides, as you’ll be able to see, I’ve managed to win the EPL + the FA Cup & go out in the final of the Carabao cup with Fulham first season without touching the mercato 😉 You can allow yourself to be on your backfoot thanks to the 3 defensive midfield (even though two of these are attacking volante). That gives your team a natural low defensive block in the middle of the field hindering the opposition possession, forcing them into awkward positions, taking long shots or just losing the ball, and before they know it, it’s in the back of their net :D There are no OIs involved (I don't use them, but of course, feel free to do so ;)) PLAYERS Most of the player profiles to look for are pretty standard. There are a few things you should look for however. Wing backs : Your wing backs have an offensive role and will go up the pitch, therefor, a decent technique will be a plus, but you should still prefer someone able to defend. The key attribute is the ability to cross obviously 😊 Wingers : The only thing to note for wingers is that it’s alright to have a left footed player on the right wing. More often than not, if it’s their natural position, they will perform better that way. Striker : It’s always better to have someone that knows how to run, good speed is appreciated, but his Off the Ball abilities will make him shine. Bonus if he’s decent in the airs. Volante : The trickiest for the end. You can actually play various types of players as Volante, more physique oriented ones, or more technical players, or even more defensive. There are a few key attributes in my opinion to make it work in this tactic. The two most important to me are Work Rate & Tackling. If a decent 12+ Tackling will do, you might wanna look for 15+ Work Rate. After that, obviously, stamina is a big part of the player & his passing, vision will have a lot to do with his performances. Bonus if he’s good at long shots. RESULTS Every screenshot has been made on the first season with no transfers involved (Liverpool & Juventus was on the same save). You can find it on the workshop at : https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1571663496 Guru's Lightning Bolt (19.3).fmf Edited March 16, 2019 by Drugenjunky 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matias82 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 32 minutes ago, Drugenjunky said: INTRODUCTION Firstly, you should know that even if the tactic was tested with decent success on lesser & bigger teams, it might not work with yours depending on the players you have as it revolves strongly on the 2 Volante in the midfield. If you do, however, have all the players fitting the roles, then by all means, enjoy the show 😊 Also, you may notice some similarities with one of Knap’s tactics. I was already working, on streams, on this tactic for quite some time when Knap’s one came out, but since we went for the same formation, I looked into it & used some parts to complete my own (Mostly the Anchor role & the overlaps instructions). TACTIC PRESENTATION If your playstyle is about patience, slow build-up, long periods of possession before attempting a shot, this tactic isn’t for you :p As its name suggests, Lightning Bolt is a fast paced formation that gladly gives away the possession & a huge part of the pitch in order to make an even better use of it once your players get the ball back. What to expect ? Anyone can give an assist at any point in time. The poacher makes deep runs often, & thanks to the pressing line not too high, he has the space to do so, allowing your central defenders & defensive midfields to attempt long passes behind the opposition. A pretty big part of your plays will happen on the wings, you will notice a soft spot in play between your Winger, WingBack & Volante, that often play in a short triangle in order to get rid of the opposition and make enough space for one of them to make a run for it. Your Volante can even break through the center with the ball should the need arise. All in all, the danger can come from anybody anywhere on the pitch, the more you’ll have quality players, the more you’ll notice this. Note however than the tactic still works very well with minor sides, as you’ll be able to see, I’ve managed to win the EPL + the FA Cup & go out in the final of the Carabao cup with Fulham first season without touching the mercato 😉 You can allow yourself to be on your backfoot thanks to the 3 defensive midfield (even though two of these are attacking volante). That gives your team a natural low defensive block in the middle of the field hindering the opposition possession, forcing them into awkward positions, taking long shots or just losing the ball, and before they know it, it’s in the back of their net :D There are no OIs involved (I don't use them, but of course, feel free to do so ;)) PLAYERS Most of the player profiles to look for are pretty standard. There are a few things you should look for however. Wing backs : Your wing backs have an offensive role and will go up the pitch, therefor, a decent technique will be a plus, but you should still prefer someone able to defend. The key attribute is the ability to cross obviously 😊 Wingers : The only thing to note for wingers is that it’s alright to have a left footed player on the right wing. More often than not, if it’s their natural position, they will perform better that way. Striker : It’s always better to have someone that knows how to run, good speed is appreciated, but his Off the Ball abilities will make him shine. Bonus if he’s decent in the airs. Volante : The trickiest for the end. You can actually play various types of players as Volante, more physique oriented ones, or more technical players, or even more defensive. There are a few key attributes in my opinion to make it work in this tactic. The two most important to me are Work Rate & Tackling. If a decent 12+ Tackling will do, you might wanna look for 15+ Work Rate. After that, obviously, stamina is a big part of the player & his passing, vision will have a lot to do with his performances. Bonus if he’s good at long shots. RESULTS The Fulham, Nimes & Lille seasons have been on the first season with no transfers involved. You can find it on the workshop at : https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1571663496 Guru's Lightning Bolt.fmf hi, will you give the download link? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FM_Guru Posted November 23, 2018 Author Share Posted November 23, 2018 It's given at the end of the post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matias82 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Drugenjunky said: It's given at the end of the post I have problems logging in to Steam and if you could give a link to eg mediafire etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FM_Guru Posted November 23, 2018 Author Share Posted November 23, 2018 There is a direct download link given just below the workshop link. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matias82 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Drugenjunky said: There is a direct download link given just below the workshop link. where? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matias82 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, matias82 said: where? Ok, I found thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roggiotis Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 @Drugenjunky Very interesting Regarding Fulham , did u use Seri and Johansen as Volante ? and Anguissa as Anchorman ? Can u post a ss squad stats end of the season ? ( appearances , goals ,assists etc ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FM_Guru Posted November 23, 2018 Author Share Posted November 23, 2018 il y a 4 minutes, roggiotis a dit : @Drugenjunky Very interesting Regarding Fulham , did u use Seri and Johansen as Volante ? and Anguissa as Anchorman ? Can u post a ss squad stats end of the season ? ( appearances , goals ,assists etc ) Correct for the midfield Here are the squad stats I hope you'll find as much success as I did Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilyes92300 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 salut Guru un 4-2-3-1 est t-il prévu ? ou encore un 433 avec un 6 ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FM_Guru Posted November 23, 2018 Author Share Posted November 23, 2018 Pas pour le moment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roggiotis Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Impressive. You had 9/11 stable starters . Transfers of the 2nd season ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilyes92300 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 dommage j'aurais aimé la tester mais je ne suis pas trop fans de ce genre de tactique, après je ne remet pas en cause tes talents de technicien Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FM_Guru Posted November 23, 2018 Author Share Posted November 23, 2018 il y a 1 minute, roggiotis a dit : Impressive. You had 9/11 stable starters . Transfers of the 2nd season ? I haven't played a second season with Fulham, it was a one season deal to showcase the tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roggiotis Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 And the results you posted under the league table ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FM_Guru Posted November 23, 2018 Author Share Posted November 23, 2018 It's a network save where I'm playing as Tottenham, these were the first games played when I start using the tactic ^^ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roggiotis Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Ok then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlada hitna Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 What about individual training for players or you left this for assistant manager Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FM_Guru Posted November 23, 2018 Author Share Posted November 23, 2018 I do all training myself, trained all players for the roles I used them in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roggiotis Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Get Stuck in + tackle harder in 8 players , did you have problem with red cards ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FM_Guru Posted November 24, 2018 Author Share Posted November 24, 2018 Fulham took a total of 67 Yellow & 4 Red cards. You can get lots of yellow in a single game, but I don't take that much red cards. It happens tho, mostly on the Volante tbh. (Johansen & Seri took 3 of the 4 mentioned :p) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonyRivas Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 (edited) Looks nice i will try it in with new Barcelona save . ( training myself too ). Not suits a team like Barca but looks so good. Thanks ! Edited November 25, 2018 by JonyRivas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 https://twitter.com/Cragswfc/status/1066313883244261376 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FM_Guru Posted November 25, 2018 Author Share Posted November 25, 2018 Nice results I'm glad it's working well for you guys ! Don't hesitate to update your season ^^ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastian Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Very good tactic!! Transfers, Cristian Pavón and Exequiel Palacios. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr aok Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Very good tactic indeed and joy to watch. I think I need a better otb striker though. Definitely far better and more solid than hundreds of "knaps tactics" Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin88 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 good tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FM_Guru Posted December 10, 2018 Author Share Posted December 10, 2018 Thanks all of you I'm using the open beta right now to try & find the best way to make it work for the coming 19.2 so that it will still do what it does when the time comes ^^ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarraBravaDCU Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Am 30.11.2018 um 10:59 schrieb mr aok: Very good tactic indeed and joy to watch. I think I need a better otb striker though. Definitely far better and more solid than hundreds of "knaps tactics" Thanks. Bro seriously. I know this is OT but I feel there's an inflationary amount of "KNAP" stuff on the board. Makes it hard to find anything else. Isn't there a way to put all the KNAP stuff in one thread / subfolder? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FM_Guru Posted December 12, 2018 Author Share Posted December 12, 2018 The tactic has been updated to 19.2. I've added a 424 version of it. In both, your corner taker should always be your right volante for extra efficiency. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD 1984 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Has 19.2 version been tested? How’s it looking? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lufcberg22 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 This tactic suits Bournemouth to a tee Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm86 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 On 12/12/2018 at 08:58, Drugenjunky said: The tactic has been updated to 19.2. I've added a 424 version of it. In both, your corner taker should always be your right volante for extra efficiency. Whats the best version at the moment do you think? Do the strikers score most of the goals? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPChenet Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 On 23/11/2018 at 21:00, Drugenjunky said: I haven't played a second season with Fulham, it was a one season deal to showcase the tactic How come there are Champions League results there for Fulham? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FM_Guru Posted December 19, 2018 Author Share Posted December 19, 2018 Il y a 14 heures, hm86 a dit : Whats the best version at the moment do you think? Do the strikers score most of the goals? The one that suits your team best if you have more forwards, 424 might be the way to go (but it takes more goals in, obviously). il y a 56 minutes, JPChenet a dit : How come there are Champions League results there for Fulham? It wasn't with Fulham, I wouldn't have played them in PL then, would I ? ^^ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPChenet Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 33 minutes ago, Drugenjunky said: The one that suits your team best if you have more forwards, 424 might be the way to go (but it takes more goals in, obviously). It wasn't with Fulham, I wouldn't have played them in PL then, would I ? ^^ Confused now! Who are those impressive league and cup results with under the 'results' at the top of the post? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vokes Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 On 23/11/2018 at 10:38, Drugenjunky said: Are these results with Spurs ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FM_Guru Posted December 19, 2018 Author Share Posted December 19, 2018 Yes, this table was as Tottenham, sry for forgetting to make the precision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
msaretti Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 I tried alot of tactics but Guru's 4-2-4 gave me the best results. I'm just finishing a season and i'm undefeated in 30 games, i score alot, most of it from my strikers and the fans and board are loving my attacking football. Thank you for this great tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox990 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 I don't know if it's because I didn't have the players, but this has been a disaster for my Sheffield Wednesday team, I haven't won a game and get dominated in every one. If I'm lucky I can sometimes sneak a draw, but that's as good as it gets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilyes92300 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 salut il y a une version en 442 comme sur le 18 ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WI5ARD Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Looks good but would like to see a screen shot of the tactic for the 424 as play on touch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandajoe Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) On 23/11/2018 at 20:34, Drugenjunky said: Correct for the midfield Here are the squad stats I hope you'll find as much success as I did I'm about to play as Fulham in a multiplayer game (lifelong fan for my sins). Are you playing Sessegnon LB and Fosu-Mensah RB? What role is Mitrovic? Thanks! Edited January 14, 2019 by Pandajoe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FM_Guru Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share Posted March 16, 2019 The tactic has been updated to the last match engine version (19.3). The screenshots of the results come from the latest version as well Enjoy ♥ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 (edited) 19.3 - First match without tactic fluidity from my players. Four goals and two disallowed goals as offside. Dulwich Halmet didn't know what they hit them. I am just arrived to Torquay (2040) to close my career, without transfers to be designed for that tactic. Looking promising! EDIT: I have removed "tackle harder" and "Get Stuck In" since, you know. Having proper players at Vanarama National League South is a big ask. Edited March 17, 2019 by Guest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilmata Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 (edited) It is been long time from the last answer and i dont know is will be active in this forum but i have a question here. What and why is this change of wingers with trequarista? I have something in my mind, so have you upload the first version of this tactic or tell me just what is change for next updates? The tactic is realy interesting, my team scores beautiful goals. It is a little bit shaggy in defence but still. : ) Greetings Guru! Edited December 6, 2019 by dilmata Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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