Glenn Stiemens Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Football Manager Handheld 2009 introduces the ability to choose multiple leagues for the first time on the PSP. This in turn means that there are now a few different ways to influence the distribution of players that are loaded into your game. This guide is meant to highlight the different start up options available to you. FMH 2009 effectively includes 20 databases for you to play with. There are two databases for each of the 10 nations. So for each of the nations the following options are available: Database setup option 1: Choose only one nation's leagues to load This will result in a similar database 'spread' of players as included in FMH 2008 (i.e. the majority of players will be from the loaded nation with the top players from other nations included). Database setup option 2: 1 primary nation (all leagues loaded) and 3 top divisions Multiple league set-ups spread the players across the game world more evenly than single league set-ups. You will find that teams will have just their most established players loaded. There is no advantage (aside from processing speed) in opting not to choose the maximum of three secondary nations when choosing this database setup option. This option will result in more realistic European results due to the improved balance of players at European clubs within active leagues. But a player I want to sign isn't present in the game database If a player you really like isn't present in the PSP game you can always edit him into it using the techniques shown in one of the other sticky threads ("Guide for Editing on FMH2009 ") at the top of this forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crickie Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Does it slow the game down much by having the three extra leagues in. Also does you get the results from the extra three divisions popping up on screen? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Stiemens Posted November 13, 2008 Author Share Posted November 13, 2008 There isn't any noticeable slowdown - we've down various checks to ensure that the game still lets you race through a season if you want to. The results from the extra divisions are shown on screen when being calculated (as with the main nation's leagues). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Marc Vaughan Posted November 13, 2008 SI Staff Share Posted November 13, 2008 Does it slow the game down much by having the three extra leagues in. Also does you get the results from the extra three divisions popping up on screen? From our internal test logs - running the game on holiday using an unemployed manager and start from the first day of a newly created game. FMH08 Release: 19/06/2008 FMH2008 Release 3.95 22 mins 20 secs ENGLAND MAIN with ITALY, SPAIN & SCOTLAND BACKGROUND 02/10/2008 4.05 28 mins 40 secs So yes its marginally slower with multiple leagues active over the course of a season, but to be honest it won't be really noticable during normal operation as its literally a few seconds here and there during normal play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crickie Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 thanks for your quick and accurate response. Keep up the good work!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergkamp.10. Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 yea we can only expect it to be a little bit slower.. aswel as the other leagues results being shown, can we also look at other leagues' tables, highest player rating etc.? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Stiemens Posted November 13, 2008 Author Share Posted November 13, 2008 Yes - you can see all the usual stats for any leagues that are being simulated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergkamp.10. Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Yes - you can see all the usual stats for any leagues that are being simulated. cool that's deadly cheers Glenn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ridley99 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 things are looking mighty impressive roll on tomorrow! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergkamp.10. Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 i might be getting mine tonight! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flameboy Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Does loading secondary nations restrict the number of players from the primary nation? So if you only run one nation does it mean that you will have more players from that given nation? There fore more youth players? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Stiemens Posted November 13, 2008 Author Share Posted November 13, 2008 Yes, only running with one nation will mean you get more from players loaded for that nation's clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flameboy Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Yes, only running with one nation will mean you get more from players loaded for that nation's clubs. Cheers for speedy reply! Right ok, so that explains why people are saying there are players "missing" when in fact it is a natural result of the limited pool of players being spread over multiple nations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
04ambroj Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 is it possible to tell us marc when the finall changes to the player database were made? just so i no where to look for certain players .. thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Stiemens Posted November 13, 2008 Author Share Posted November 13, 2008 The data should be up to date with all the summer transfer window deals - remember of course, you can use the editing system to add in any transfers since then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flameboy Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Yes, only running with one nation will mean you get more from players loaded for that nation's clubs. take it that its scaleable as well so only running primary and 1 extra nation will mean more players in each nation than if you have 3 nations running extra..., think I will likely do english and spanish or english and italian... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Stiemens Posted November 13, 2008 Author Share Posted November 13, 2008 take it that its scaleable as well so only running primary and 1 extra nation will mean more players in each nation than if you have 3 nations running extra..., think I will likely do english and spanish or english and italian... If you give the opening post another read - you'll see there is no advantage to running with just one extra nation over the full three (aside from processing speeds). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flameboy Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 If you give the opening post another read - you'll see there is no advantage to running with just one extra nation over the full three (aside from processing speeds). right ok! gotcha thought if you only have one extra nation the pool of players wouldn't be spread as thin, but your right the top post does explain it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie_Magpies Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Does that mean that right now i'm at United, and I have chosen Italy as a secondary country, I can apply for the job at Fiorentina, and manage BOTH United and Fiorentina? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Stiemens Posted November 14, 2008 Author Share Posted November 14, 2008 No, you can still only manage one team at a time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergkamp.10. Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 if you uploaded england as your primary nation, should all players in england be on the game? 'cause with my Arsenal save, there is a few players missing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukaboi Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 B10, if you upload Just england leagues, every player will be there but if you choose secondary leagues as well as England, not all England leagues players will be there :confused: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergkamp.10. Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 yeah but i thought the main ones would be like, Vela isnt at Arsenal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukaboi Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 I have no idea, it's just the way the DB works out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergkamp.10. Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 alrite well im sure we can fix that with some updates Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Pepper Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Thinking about starting a new save, I was a bit bummed that Vela wasnt there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergkamp.10. Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Thinking about starting a new save, I was a bit bummed that Vela wasnt there. he is if you just choose england Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ridley99 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 how come ive seen 3 really good players on the editor that play in England but when i load an england only game they arent there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSD Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Who are they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ridley99 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 theres Gael Kakuta, Chelsea Gael Nlunduld and Andrea Mutumbo both of Portsmouth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drwmorrison1984 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Dont know If anyone else might be having this problem but ive just found something really frustrating. When I load up the english only database OR the english database with other top leagues and I look at the Hearts squad I see Gary Glen one of the best young SCOTTISH players Hearts have developed in years. Now, when I load the scottish ONLY database and look at Hearts - Gary glen is NOT at Hearts !!! WHY ? why is a scottish player at his club in other database but not the scottish one ?? I find this really bad I havent noticed other players / clubs this affects but I am sure there must be some. can Marc of someone please explan this for me ? surely if you load the scottish only database then ALL the scottish players should be loaded ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flameboy Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 theres Gael Kakuta, ChelseaGael Nlunduld and Andrea Mutumbo both of Portsmouth They weren't in my English Leagues only pompey games either...shame as AM is a hot prospect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ridley99 Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 im guessing you have to have a french league as the main to get them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Partizan--Badger Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 So if I chose to run England as my main league and Scotland running as well, how many leagues do I get? Will I only get the top division in each country? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ridley99 Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 youll get Premier league, championship, league 1, league 2 and blue square premier in England and just the premier league in scotland Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoopaloola Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Football Manager Handheld 2009 introduces the ability to choose multiple leagues for the first time on the PSP. This in turn means that there are now a few different ways to influence the distribution of players that are loaded into your game. This guide is meant to highlight the different start up options available to you.FMH 2009 effectively includes 20 databases for you to play with. There are two databases for each of the 10 nations. So for each of the nations the following options are available: Database setup option 1: Choose only one nation's leagues to load This will result in a similar database 'spread' of players as included in FMH 2008 (i.e. the majority of players will be from the loaded nation with the top players from other nations included). Database setup option 2: 1 primary nation (all leagues loaded) and 3 top divisions Multiple league set-ups spread the players across the game world more evenly than single league set-ups. You will find that teams will have just their most established players loaded. There is no advantage (aside from processing speed) in opting not to choose the maximum of three secondary nations when choosing this database setup option. This option will result in more realistic European results due to the improved balance of players at European clubs within active leagues. But a player I want to sign isn't present in the game database If a player you really like isn't present in the PSP game you can always edit him into it using the techniques shown in one of the other sticky threads ("Guide for Editing on FMH2009 ") at the top of this forum. I just bought FMH09 and this guide seems incorrect to me, particularly the part I have marked in bold. Here's my example, if I select database setup 1 choosing only the English leagues Newcastle have a squad of 30 players as opposed to the 24 or so they have using setup option 2, this goes along with what the guide says. However, using option 1, with just the English leagues, it seems to me that there are in fact more players playing in european teams than if I select option 2 (having the top division of 3 other leagues). So if I select option 1, just the english leagues the following squads (picked at random) have the following amount of real, non greyed out players- Newcastle-30 Juventus-29 Bayern Munich-25 Ajax-23 Dinamo Kiev-19 FC Salsburg-7 Bohemians (the Irish club I support)-2 Now, if I slect option B and load uf the english leagues as well as 3 top divisions from europe (italy, spain and scotland) here is what I get- Newcastle-24 Juventus-19 Bayern Munich-18 Ajax-18 Dinamo Kiev-4 FC Salsburg-2 Bohemians (the Irish club I support)-1 So selecting the other top divisions brings the amount of real players in clubs aound europe down greatly, and this is the case with all clubs, so how does this make the balance more even when the english clubs still have full squads of players (maybe missing one or two players here and there) while the european clubs lose at least ten players or in the case of Kiev go from having 19 real players to only 4. So to me, the only advantage of running the one full league with 3 top divisions setup is so that you can have the option to manage in other divisions. What I don't understand is that running option 2 also seems to provide a much smaller database, given that not only are the english teams obviously not as player heavy as with option 1 but the european teams, as I have pointed out, are pretty much decimated. Apologies, if I have gotten something horribly wrong, but I would like someone to clarify this guide for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase123 Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Thats a good question.... I haven't taken the time to look at it but I would like to know the answer to this also. I have always loaded the extra leagues (option 2) thinking I would get more foreign players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoopaloola Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 perhaps they are there somewhere, but as I said from my tests I could barely find one european team with more players when selecting the other top divisions option. As a result I always end up just selecting all the english leagues as then the likes of Balotelli are in the game although this does mean I can't manage in other countries. The real annoyance is that by selecting the other european leagues you lose players from the premier league like Vela, but it seemingly gives no advantage in terms of getting more continental players so you lose all round apart from having the ability to manage abraod. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crickie Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 To add to the post above i was starting new games to check the update and i tested it so see how many players are on the different databases. Only england = 4618 Players England + Top italy, scotland and spain = 4668 Players So you do get slightly more players but they must be added in smaller leagues instead of the leagues you have selected. Doesnt make sense to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ridley99 Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 ive noticed that theres quite a lot of players in Belgian teams this year compared to the very little of last year unless you chose them as the main league Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoopaloola Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 I hope this makes more sense in this years version. I don't see the point in playing with the top 3 other divisions loaded if star players such as Balotelli and Vela are removed when they are left in the game along with much bigger main league squads if I just select the one league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cenluc Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Hi, I'm Italian support of Football Manager. I'm sorry for my english.... I want play with AC MILAN, but is very difficult.. half player aren't in database, I have 5 defender, not Antonini, abate, jankuloswy, inzaghi ecc.ecc... Can I solve problem?? -22 days to FM2010.................... Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ridley99 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 its all to do with how many databases you have loaded. if you have just the italian you will get more of the younger players but if you have more than 1 league loaded you will get less players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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