PaperRosesSMz Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Hi fellas. Don't often post on here and really didn't want to start a topic over this however was looking for a quick answer and I thought this would be the best place. My squad has some good quality box to box midfielders however I'm looking to find the best role to play along side it? I play a typical 4-2-3-1, 2 midfielders behind the attacking midfielder. Something tells me, deep lying playmaker however I have always been a sucker for a ball winning midfielder in any save I play. Quick feedback is much appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquid Cool Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Since the B2B midfielder has "roaming" active, it would probably be a good idea to partner him with someone who's more stationary. Deep-Lying Playermaker would be an obvious choice, as he has the opposite instruction active ("hold position"). Alternatatively just a plain old CM. In earlier versions of FM, the Ball-Winning Midfielder was set to press a lot, which could easily get him out of position - bit it seems that's not the case this year. At least for the visible instructions. He might be hardcoded to be more aggressive. Maybe try a few combinations and watch some games on Full Commentary and take notice of how they move? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Experienced Defender Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Liquid Cool said: Since the B2B midfielder has "roaming" active, it would probably be a good idea to partner him with someone who's more stationary. Deep-Lying Playermaker would be an obvious choice, as he has the opposite instruction active ("hold position") A DLP would be my first choice as well To the OP - you also need to consider/take into account the roles and duties of your other players. Don't look just at the 2 CMs separately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiegel Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 I've had a fair amount of success using either a DLP(D) or CM(D), but it depends on the player you're using really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegoon65 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Drop one deeper and try the Regista or Half Back both offer different variations. A good B2B player is a joy to watch though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Depends and all that, but I use one in a 4-4-2 with a BWMd. The latter protects the defence so the former can wander off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMunderachiever Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 If youre using someone in the DM position, can you afford to have two roaming players in central midfield ahead? Im managing Benfica at the moment and Fejsa as an anchor man (d) coupled with Pizzi as roaming playmaker (s) and Gedson Fernandes as Box to Box (s) with a PI to get further forward seems to work really nicely. Is this a natural combination to use in central mid? Should also note though Gedson plays left side of the central midfield two and my left back is set to inverted wingback to cover the gap he vacates going forward Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Experienced Defender Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 13 minutes ago, FMunderachiever said: If youre using someone in the DM position, can you afford to have two roaming players in central midfield ahead? Im managing Benfica at the moment and Fejsa as an anchor man (d) coupled with Pizzi as roaming playmaker (s) and Gedson Fernandes as Box to Box (s) with a PI to get further forward seems to work really nicely Well, with that particular setup, it looks okay. But if you played a MEZ instead of BTB. it would be a bit risky and unstable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceLombardi Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 2 hours ago, FMunderachiever said: If youre using someone in the DM position, can you afford to have two roaming players in central midfield ahead? I do all the time. It's entirely possible and can be very successful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadAss88 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 I'm experimenting with a 5-4-1 diamond wingback with lazio. But I'm not sure about the 2 cm roles..This is what I got: PF-a AM-a MEZ-s --- B2B-s WB-a ------- BWM-d -------- WB-a BPD-d --- BPD-c --- BPD-d GK-d But not really content with the contribution of the mezzala, could I use 2 box-to-box midfielders next to each other? Would it work? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Experienced Defender Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 15 minutes ago, BadAss88 said: But not really content with the contribution of the mezzala, could I use 2 box-to-box midfielders next to each other? Would it work? I fear it could be even worse, making your setup even more one-dimensional. I don't know what the rest of your tactic looks like (mentality, TIs and PIs), but what I see above does not seem promising at all: - all 3 CBs in BPD role (one BPD is more than enough) - both most advanced players (AMC & ST) on attack duty, very likely to lead to them being isolated from the rest - left flank defensively very exposed with a WB on attack and a mezzala, meaning poor defensive cover (unless that BWM on defend as the lone DM is a world-class one) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceLombardi Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 2 hours ago, BadAss88 said: could I use 2 box-to-box midfielders next to each other? Would it work? Again. All the time and super successful with it. I use it as my default roles in all my 2 CM formations. You can see screenshots of them playing in my American Football Returns thread with the 34 package. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadAss88 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Experienced Defender said: I fear it could be even worse, making your setup even more one-dimensional. I don't know what the rest of your tactic looks like (mentality, TIs and PIs), but what I see above does not seem promising at all: - all 3 CBs in BPD role (one BPD is more than enough) - both most advanced players (AMC & ST) on attack duty, very likely to lead to them being isolated from the rest - left flank defensively very exposed with a WB on attack and a mezzala, meaning poor defensive cover (unless that BWM on defend as the lone DM is a world-class one) Mentality: AttackingTI in possession: Pass into space, Play out of defence, Whipped crossesTI in transition: Play to centre-backs, Counter, RegroupTI without possession: Defend Narrower, Higher defensive line, Much lower line of engagement, Extreme urgent, Get stuck inPI for AMC: Take more risks, More dribbling, Roaming, Play into channels 1. But I like my central defenders to launch counter attacks 2. That's why I hope my 2 mc's would support them as well as my wingbacks 3. Changed mezzala to box-to-box, Lucas Leiva is my BWM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SixPointer Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 7 hours ago, Experienced Defender said: Well, with that particular setup, it looks okay. But if you played a MEZ instead of BTB. it would be a bit risky and unstable. I’ve used DLP(d) in the defensive strata and two mezzalas one attack one support and its brought some joyful football. Top scorer in the league and second best defence Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Experienced Defender Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, SixPointer said: I’ve used DLP(d) in the defensive strata and two mezzalas one attack one support and its brought some joyful football. Top scorer in the league and second best defence I'm glad it works for you, keep it up 17 minutes ago, BadAss88 said: Mentality: AttackingTI in possession: Pass into space, Play out of defence, Whipped crossesTI in transition: Play to centre-backs, Counter, RegroupTI without possession: Defend Narrower, Higher defensive line, Much lower line of engagement, Extreme urgent, Get stuck inPI for AMC: Take more risks, More dribbling, Roaming, Play into channels 1. But I like my central defenders to launch counter attacks 2. That's why I hope my 2 mc's would support them as well as my wingbacks 3. Changed mezzala to box-to-box, Lucas Leiva is my BWM Try it. It's the only way to find out if it's a good or bad tactic. I have a somewhat different approach to tactics, but it does not mean I'm right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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