Jamesbfc1887 Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 The player in question. He's a new signing to the club from Japan. I get that he's not happy with regards to first team chances despite the fact he's played in 13 out of the 19 games we've played and he's only down as rotation, but he also did it before the first game of the season when he wasn't unhappy at all. This is his 4th offence now, I've fiend him 4 lots of 2 weeks wages that's £264,000, we basically don't pay the guy? His negatives also show him as "Believes Kevin Nino should not take himself so seriously" Looks like there's a bit of tension between those two. What is going on with this guy? Should I be worried or is it "Just a phase" ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesbfc1887 Posted April 7, 2019 Author Share Posted April 7, 2019 Every time this happens, I get this same message and he never improves his behaviour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Rowell Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 Depends how much you need him. I like to move these characters on, in FM and IRL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raymond85 Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 Did you try having a talk with him about his attitude? I doubt though he will speak to you if he's unhappy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesbfc1887 Posted April 7, 2019 Author Share Posted April 7, 2019 11 minutes ago, Raymond85 said: Did you try having a talk with him about his attitude? I doubt though he will speak to you if he's unhappy Well he's dropped his lack of football complaint, so I'll have a word. This is what he had to say, so hopefully things might improve now. Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raymond85 Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 7 minuti fa, Jamesbfc1887 ha scritto: Well he's dropped his lack of football complaint, so I'll have a word. This is what he had to say, so hopefully things might improve now. Cheers Keep us posted! He looks like an amazing playmaker. Try and mentor him to get a better personality going. It will take some time though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesbfc1887 Posted April 7, 2019 Author Share Posted April 7, 2019 29 minutes ago, Raymond85 said: Keep us posted! He looks like an amazing playmaker. Try and mentor him to get a better personality going. It will take some time though I'll keep you posted . I post the save in general here. But look at this, everyone's kicking off about him now, they all seem to hate him! I can't keep him here if he's starting to really annoy senior players at the club and influence some of the youngsters. Feels like I'm fighting a losing battle here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 As far as the player hanging out in nightclubs, it could happen again, and again, and again... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raymond85 Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 8 minuti fa, Jamesbfc1887 ha scritto: I'll keep you posted . I post the save in general here. But look at this, everyone's kicking off about him now, they all seem to hate him! I can't keep him here if he's starting to really annoy senior players at the club and influence some of the youngsters. Feels like I'm fighting a losing battle here. Try the real leader answer everytime Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesbfc1887 Posted April 7, 2019 Author Share Posted April 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Heywood JaBlowme said: As far as the player hanging out in nightclubs, it could happen again, and again, and again... F***. I may have to just sell him, just like your player he's becoming a cancer, despite the fact he's a brilliant footballer. Can I only fine him 2 weeks wages when he misses training or can I just do it whenever? Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesbfc1887 Posted April 7, 2019 Author Share Posted April 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, Raymond85 said: Try the real leader answer everytime He as pleased with that answer but he's still annoyed at the guy in general. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesbfc1887 Posted April 7, 2019 Author Share Posted April 7, 2019 @Heywood JaBlowme @Raymond85 Yes!! That's one way of doing it, a 3 day respite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nie jem frytek Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Maybe he's homesick? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Could be several reasons. The player in my save was upset that I placed a bid on another player who played in the same position. The transfer never went through but the player apparently didn't like the way I handled the situation and remained unsettled. I lost count after 11+ nightclub incidents. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouReds Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Natural Fitness 3 and a alcohol problem, sell the f*cker to the highest bidder ASAP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigmatic Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 On 08/04/2019 at 00:53, Jamesbfc1887 said: @Heywood JaBlowme @Raymond85 Yes!! That's one way of doing it, a 3 day respite. A "cold". Guy must have had a lot to drink for his hangover to last three days... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smp20 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Got to say that I love this! Interesting problem to deal, albeit an annoying one for you. Shame these kind of issues are only limited to regens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesbfc1887 Posted April 11, 2019 Author Share Posted April 11, 2019 13 hours ago, smp20 said: Got to say that I love this! Interesting problem to deal, albeit an annoying one for you. Shame these kind of issues are only limited to regens. Haha. It's certainly been interesting, that's for sure. Aaaaaaaggggghhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Honestly. It serves me right, I stood by this guy despite several people telling me to bin him but I didn't and to be fair he managed to get all the way to February without doing it again but that's the last straw!!! I've had enough!!! Then the kid had the cheek to say this: Where's the option to batter the sh*t out of the guy? Number 1 priority addition to FM 20 in my books. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesbfc1887 Posted April 11, 2019 Author Share Posted April 11, 2019 Goes from bad to worse, can't say I wasn't warned Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raymond85 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 14 ore fa, Jamesbfc1887 ha scritto: Goes from bad to worse, can't say I wasn't warned This is the worst nutter i've ever seen, he actually badly contradicts himself too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 ^Was the same for response me in FM18. I was also coaching his International team at the time so I had the opportunity to leave him off and ruin his (what could have been a promising) career-which I happily did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesbfc1887 Posted April 11, 2019 Author Share Posted April 11, 2019 Bore off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sporadicsmiles Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Get him out of your club ASAP. And if there is a "please never come back, you little sh*t" option as a parting comment, I'd give him that too. He seems to have a god awful personality. Not worth the time or the effort. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesbfc1887 Posted April 11, 2019 Author Share Posted April 11, 2019 51 minutes ago, sporadicsmiles said: Get him out of your club ASAP. And if there is a "please never come back, you little sh*t" option as a parting comment, I'd give him that too. He seems to have a god awful personality. Not worth the time or the effort. Believe you me, I'm trying. But the guy just doesn't give up! If only he put this much effort into playing. All of them about this pr*ck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 On 10/04/2019 at 11:04, smp20 said: Got to say that I love this! Interesting problem to deal, albeit an annoying one for you. Shame these kind of issues are only limited to regens. Tbf it's a legal issue. Imagine the fuss a player would kick up if they were portrayed as an alcoholic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sporadicsmiles Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 12 hours ago, Jamesbfc1887 said: Believe you me, I'm trying. But the guy just doesn't give up! If only he put this much effort into playing. All of them about this pr*ck. Can you not just terminate his contract? Honestly, this guy might be worth paying a few million to get rid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smp20 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 13 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: Tbf it's a legal issue. Imagine the fuss a player would kick up if they were portrayed as an alcoholic. Yeah I realise that - think this kind of thing was in there several iterations ago and must have been got rid of to avoid any legal battles... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smp20 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 1 hour ago, sporadicsmiles said: Can you not just terminate his contract? Honestly, this guy might be worth paying a few million to get rid. I reckon he'd be able to sell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantine Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Had this one issue with two of my players. First one i punished twice with 2 weeks salary and had a talk with him about his misconduct and he calmed down. Never did something similar since. But oh boy, the second one, he was pain my ass. Brilliant player, been with me for 6 or 7 seasons. Always was professional, never made a scene. But something changed in the last preseason as he went constantly to clubs, missing training sessions and games. Punished his a** 8 times, no effect. Luckily for me, over the years he built quite the reputation, won 3 Champions League and one Premier League title with him in the squad, with him scoring a CL winner goal in 118. minute. So it wasn't that hard to ship him off, as Bayern went in with 80mill bid. I would loved to keep him but he unsettled the squad, few players came to complain and i had to let him go. With a hard heart, but the team is above everyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesbfc1887 Posted April 12, 2019 Author Share Posted April 12, 2019 Be my guest to do one! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruyff14 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Just sack him, he's not worth the hassle of upsetting the entire team in the hope of making a few quid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raymond85 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 eagarly following this little demon story. I have never ever had someone like that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmonit Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 The Japanese Balotelli! I haven't tested this myself, but you could try the following: I'm assuming he is the only Japanese player in your squad? Maybe send him out on loan for the rest of the season so he doesn't damage the atmosphere in your squad any further. Meanwhile you look for another Japanese player to bring in, preferably older and a professional attitude. Once he's then back from loan, you can set both Japanese players in the same mentoring group and hopefully he'll change is attitude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesbfc1887 Posted April 13, 2019 Author Share Posted April 13, 2019 7 hours ago, fmonit said: The Japanese Balotelli! I haven't tested this myself, but you could try the following: I'm assuming he is the only Japanese player in your squad? Maybe send him out on loan for the rest of the season so he doesn't damage the atmosphere in your squad any further. Meanwhile you look for another Japanese player to bring in, preferably older and a professional attitude. Once he's then back from loan, you can set both Japanese players in the same mentoring group and hopefully he'll change is attitude. I brought in another Japanese player Nagata, which you can see above didn't go too well, they absolutely hate each other!!! To be fair Nagata is a youngster as well which is probably why that didn't work. But I didn't buy Nagata to tutor someone, I bought him because he's quite good. I might loan him out next season, if I can get any offers for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bothan Spy Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Can I just say, that I find it offensive and a huge leap to suggest that this player is an alcoholic. Clearly this young person needs guidance, but to suggest he's an 'alcoholic' because he has got drunk a few times and stayed out at a nightclub, is a bit of a leap. He does need advice. He clearly likes to have a good time. What's wrong with that? Drinking and having a good time isn't against the law. You should be happy that you have a character in your squad rather than suppress him. I'm not going to give you a lecture about Gazza. But this lad has obvious overchures. He needs nurturing rather than suppressing. Your attitude is all wrong with your post title. I'd sign him in a heartbeat, buy him a pint on the lash and then talk about how I can make him better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesbfc1887 Posted April 17, 2019 Author Share Posted April 17, 2019 12 hours ago, Bothan Spy said: Can I just say, that I find it offensive and a huge leap to suggest that this player is an alcoholic. Clearly this young person needs guidance, but to suggest he's an 'alcoholic' because he has got drunk a few times and stayed out at a nightclub, is a bit of a leap. He does need advice. He clearly likes to have a good time. What's wrong with that? Drinking and having a good time isn't against the law. You should be happy that you have a character in your squad rather than suppress him. I'm not going to give you a lecture about Gazza. But this lad has obvious overchures. He needs nurturing rather than suppressing. Your attitude is all wrong with your post title. I'd sign him in a heartbeat, buy him a pint on the lash and then talk about how I can make him better. You're having a bubble, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1magine Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 This is amazing, not for you obviously but what a completely different thing to deal with! Love it! Would also be interested to see if there was a reaction when he finally leaves although I suspect if you terminate your contract there won't be any news of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesbfc1887 Posted April 19, 2019 Author Share Posted April 19, 2019 43 minutes ago, 1magine said: This is amazing, not for you obviously but what a completely different thing to deal with! Love it! Would also be interested to see if there was a reaction when he finally leaves although I suspect if you terminate your contract there won't be any news of it. I think I'll try and loan him out and see if 'it's just a phase', maybe he'll come good at some point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesbfc1887 Posted April 19, 2019 Author Share Posted April 19, 2019 Also my goalie has now decided he is unhappy at the club and it looks like he'll run his contract until the end of the season. Disaster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmonit Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 On 17/04/2019 at 09:11, Bothan Spy said: Can I just say, that I find it offensive and a huge leap to suggest that this player is an alcoholic. Clearly this young person needs guidance, but to suggest he's an 'alcoholic' because he has got drunk a few times and stayed out at a nightclub, is a bit of a leap. Fair point, not everyone drinks in clubs. Some people just dance a lot. Or dare I say, use substances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajt Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 On 19/04/2019 at 13:52, Jamesbfc1887 said: I think I'll try and loan him out and see if 'it's just a phase', maybe he'll come good at some point. I was wondering if you are still playing this save James. what did you do with him in the end? I've got my first raver and he seems to be skipping matches more and more frequently. it's without doubt the strangest situation I've had in FM haha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordieboy52 Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 Try and loan him to somewhere with absolutely no night life... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajt Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 i would but if he's somehow clubbing in Geneva then I'm really not sure there's anywhere I can send him! i bought him off bayern munich last season for 9mil and could sell him on for 16 but he's my best center mid by quite some margin, and both my DM's already want to leave the club for the premier league! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryangiggsy Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 I had the problem with my best defender (possibly the best defender in my save) he missed training twice, I fined him the maximum amount every time. He did it a third time so I dropped him to the U21 squad and didn’t play him for a while, he got unhappy but who cares he asked for it. After a while I took him back to the first team squad and he never missed training again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Can't figure out the reason for this player turning into a potential knucklehead, other then perhaps he's still young needs to mature. It's proof that any player can be AWOL. The scout report on him said "sign whatever the price". I acquired him for a whopping $91M. I was starting him almost every game so there no issues with lack of playing time. Why pay that much and sit him? Then this: I immediately fined him 2 weeks pay and he didn't complain: Then this message: So he decides to report back to training and indicates a "willingness" to play for the club again. I paid a king's ransom to get him. He's being paid almost $13M a year + incentives for 4 more years, and he's "willing" to play for the club again after partying and not showing up for training. How professional of him. And where is he hanging out in the early morning hours in London when the taverns all close at 11:00 PM? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanMilly Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Who told you all the pubs close at 11pm in London? On a Saturday night, there are plenty of places that won't shut until 4am on Sunday morning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, JordanMillward_1 said: Who told you all the pubs close at 11pm in London? On a Saturday night, there are plenty of places that won't shut until 4am on Sunday morning. That’s what I was told when I visited in the early 2000’s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMNJohn Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 5 hours ago, Heywood JaBlowme said: I immediately fined him 2 weeks pay and he didn't complain: Even when they don't complain, the rather counter-intuitive and not gratifying thing to do is to... give them a warning. Not a fine, but a warning. Not only saying this to you because I've quoted you, but to anyone who's had an issue with such players: a warning on the first offence will get you further than a fine. And obviously, sell as soon as possible! Skipping training and/or staying at a bar hints at horrible hidden attributes that may not be reflected in their scout report; and such players are never worth it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clokey1988 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 14 hours ago, JordanMillward_1 said: Who told you all the pubs close at 11pm in London? On a Saturday night, there are plenty of places that won't shut until 4am on Sunday morning. Never mind a Saturday night. London is a proper 24-hour city, if you want a beer at any hour on a random Tuesday night you can find it if you look hard enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spurs08 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 16 hours ago, Heywood JaBlowme said: That’s what I was told when I visited in the early 2000’s. That was sort-of true at the time - although licenses were occasionally granted that let places stay open later, used in particular for nightclubs which regularly continued until 3-5AM. But a law passed in 2003 and came into force in 2005 that ended this practice - now licenses are routinely granted to allow places to open later, and you can even get a license to serve alcohol 24 hours a day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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