manutdman666 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 As this game still has so many bugs i.e champions league groups drawn incorrectly, transfer system still not working properly, sacked scouts still scouting, international matches and league games being played at similar times so my man utd team has 14 players missing for the visit to tottenham, I was wondering when I will be able to play the game. I dont want to get a refund as im aware that fm08 was awful until the 3rd patch so when will this game be complete so we can patch it up again? I really dont want to wait until january. However if SI think this game is now playable and have no immediate plans to release a 2nd patch please could you inform me now so that I can get my money back until game is fixed. Thankyou. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohmyhovel Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 I am still getting a **** load of injuries aswell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Marc Duffy Posted November 15, 2008 SI Staff Share Posted November 15, 2008 As this game still has so many bugs i.e champions league groups drawn incorrectly, transfer system still not working properly, sacked scouts still scouting, international matches and league games being played at similar times so my man utd team has 14 players missing for the visit to tottenham, I was wondering when I will be able to play the game. I dont want to get a refund as im aware that fm08 was awful until the 3rd patch so when will this game be complete so we can patch it up again? I really dont want to wait until january. However if SI think this game is now playable and have no immediate plans to release a 2nd patch please could you inform me now so that I can get my money back until game is fixed. Thankyou. Not sure what the official line is here but the guys are continuing to work on FM09 and it's highly likely further patches will be released. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Marc Duffy Posted November 15, 2008 SI Staff Share Posted November 15, 2008 I am still getting a **** load of injuries aswell In the patch 9.1 it's tuned down by at least 25% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohmyhovel Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 yeah but 25% off of 10 is only 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mikeytwigge Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 no25% off 10 is 2.5 which is rounded up to 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manutdman666 Posted November 15, 2008 Author Share Posted November 15, 2008 Thanks for the reply Marc. Much appreciated. Is there any sort of timeframe we can expect the 2nd patch or is it all still under review? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
supertrrier Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 In the patch 9.1 it's tuned down by at least 25% Thank goodness for that. My star midfielder crocked for 3 months after 3 minutes of the season, his replacement going off injured after 62 minutes, my striker limping through the last 15 minutes on fitness of 45% because I had no more subs. Good job its been tuned down - just think of the carnage otherwise. By the way 4 games into season and thee players who came on as subs have all been crocked... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zack Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 In UEFA Champions League Group Stages it says (under Rules) that top 2 qualify for knockout stage. Shouldn't it say 3rd place qualify for EURO (UEFA) Cup Group Stages or whatever it is they qualify for in real life? I am likely to finish 3rd/4th. I don't want some bug to throw me out of Europe Also when I start a game 4-4-2 one striker can play CM, if I decide to move him to CM in the game (so 4-5-1) it works ok, but then when I recheck it my player I moved (to the middle of the 5) is now upfront on his own (ok, ish) but my other out and out striker is stuck in midfield, rendering them useless and meaning teams stroll through my midfield . I had to change this 3 times during my defeat to Inter, luckily my defeat had nothing to do with that or I would be fuming... Also when I start a game it says setting up match when it takes itself to classic view, every match. Can't it setup match (I take it that's the view etc) and cache that!? Plus it does it after HT Will all this be fixed in the patch? Is there an estimated time? Are we talking a few days or a few weeks!? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohmyhovel Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Okay injuries clearly haven't been fixed at all because half my team are still getting crocked per game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davehanson Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 I suffered really badly with injuries in the demo, but with the patch and having toned down my training a tad I think they are fine now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam.S Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Injurys are fine at my end , check your training/tempo during games etc. What is this deal with the champions league bug?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohmyhovel Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 I am using tugs training cos I am lazy But seriously my team are ****ed after my first friendly I had 6 players out for over 2 weeks, most of them months out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candre168 Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 I am using tugs training cos I am lazy But seriously my team are ****ed after my first friendly I had 6 players out for over 2 weeks, most of them months out. Players usually are tired after their first friendly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevyinus Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 At least you have the first patch, us on Mac's don't even have the first patch yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candre168 Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 I am using tugs training cos I am lazy But seriously my team are ****ed after my first friendly I had 6 players out for over 2 weeks, most of them months out. At least you have the first patch, us on Mac's don't even have the first patch yet. Well that sucks for you guys. Sorry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritari Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 The data editor crashes and corrupts data. Fix it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indi75 Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 At least you have the first patch, us on Mac's don't even have the first patch yet. Since when did fans of the pretty and cool who doth verily kneel before the messiah that is Steve Jobs care about functionality? Sorry, my sympathies, this isn't Apple's fault, and it's pretty poor that you guys can't play yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djwilko6 Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 The data editor crashes and corrupts data. Fix it. Thats a helpful post... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam.S Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 ahahah i dont even know why people mess around with the data......itching for a crash Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zack Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Injurys are fine at my end , check your training/tempo during games etc. What is this deal with the champions league bug?? I reported it as a bug, SI said that the 3rd placed teams will drop into the Euro (UEFA) cup, but the text is missing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritari Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Thats a helpful post... It is as helpful as it can be considering I don't have the game myself. I only heard this from a friend of mine. Apparently trying to remove a duplicate entry in the db sometimes results in a crash and some competition histories become corrupted (the year figures all change into 1800) if edited. Also, the editor won't allow editing of non-player histories. (These all on patched game.) I doubt my friend is the only one experiencing these issues, so they must already know. Also, this is not a proper bug report thread, not even the right forum, so what's the point of giving detailed info on the bugs here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDL Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Half of my Arsenal squad out injured, but hey, not 1 or 2 weeks, we are talking about months:eek:. This is trully ridiculous. Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestLake Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 25% is ok,but the base is toooooooo big,so 25% is not enough at all! its because our training and settings? so you guys mean training hard leadss so much ****ing injuries? Ohhh,so that soldiers should be all injuried and no war in the world at all !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonlondoner Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 CDL. Half of the real Arsenal squad is out injured, so perhaps it's fairly realistic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zack Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 The players swapping position is so annoying. I just had to hold on as I let in a goal due to my strikers deciding they felt like playing in midfield :mad:.. Don't they test anything!? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FM06Matt Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 I used heavy training in pre season and when the season started i set training to light ive only had 2 injuries with Tottenham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam.S Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 The players swapping position is so annoying. I just had to hold on as I let in a goal due to my strikers deciding they felt like playing in midfield :mad:.. Don't they test anything!? WHat is this bug?? can you explain it more? i havnt had change of position automatically....though i have 13 players in my tactic screen sometimes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestLake Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 CDL. Half of the real Arsenal squad is out injured, so perhaps it's fairly realistic. Hey,there's only one Arsenal in the real world,ok? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1GhTz Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 there should be another patch very soon because just look at the game its a complete mess Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff PaulC Posted November 16, 2008 SI Staff Share Posted November 16, 2008 We are working on a 9.2, no release date set yet though. Regarding injuries - you can minimize them by: - Not buying or playing injury prone players - Managing your players' fitness, eg not wearing them out in matches especially when they arent match fit However they are part and parcel of football and hence you will, like all teams IRL, go through peaks and troughs with them. So while I will be tweaking injuries a bit further for 9.2, it wont necessarily mean less, just a more realistic spread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1GhTz Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 i sorry but how can you say your fixing injuries in the next patch when i tried to patch the game with 9.1 and it just erased all my FM data how does that work ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fqdd Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Part and parcel of what football?? Three players injured in one single game? Over 10 players injured at once in a squad? I'm glad I don't watch the same kind of football hehe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butters76 Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 We are working on a 9.2, no release date set yet though.Regarding injuries - you can minimize them by: - Not buying or playing injury prone players - Managing your players' fitness, eg not wearing them out in matches especially when they arent match fit However they are part and parcel of football and hence you will, like all teams IRL, go through peaks and troughs with them. So while I will be tweaking injuries a bit further for 9.2, it wont necessarily mean less, just a more realistic spread. Any Idea why Fabregas tire so quickly, he can only play 65 minutes per game even though he has Nat fitness 18, stamina 17 and workrate 17. 65 minutes into each game he hits 69% and has to be replaced. He does not have a hard workload in tactics. Close down own half, he does have forward runs, not tight marking. It doesn't make sense why he tire so much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cullen89 Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Paul C admit it you've cocked up again, "mate"! You said it would be addressed in this patch, it clearly hasn't. The fact that you can't qualify your statements says it all. As I've said I think it's time some of the testers went home to be family men. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butters76 Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Injuries are fixed IMO. Look december 13th and no injuries Havent had many through the season either, but I rotate my squad a bit. Villa has the most with 7 injuries 2 of them 5 months long. http://img65.imageshack.us/my.php?image=noinjuriesgu9.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestLake Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 We are working on a 9.2, no release date set yet though.Regarding injuries - you can minimize them by: - Not buying or playing injury prone players - Managing your players' fitness, eg not wearing them out in matches especially when they arent match fit However they are part and parcel of football and hence you will, like all teams IRL, go through peaks and troughs with them. So while I will be tweaking injuries a bit further for 9.2, it wont necessarily mean less, just a more realistic spread. You want to tell us: 1. The game is perfect in injury,its we who dont know the correct way to play the game. 2. You decide which is realistic spread,you decide the part and parcel of football,you decide whether the injury system is close to real life,although you decided the DEMO is perfect too in injury,if it was not that case,why did you release it?So do you still think you can decide which is right or wrong not the guys who buy the game? 3. 9.2 may make some changes,but whatever,you never made any mistake,oh Jesus,Are you kidding me? Is that the right attitude you should have? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bod1035 Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 I think the injuries are fine now after the patch, i am sure most people just need to tweak their training routines or are playing players who are not fully fit imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestLake Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Injuries are fixed IMO. Look december 13th and no injuries Havent had many through the season either, but I rotate my squad a bit. Villa has the most with 7 injuries 2 of them 5 months long. http://img65.imageshack.us/my.php?image=noinjuriesgu9.jpg So you mean we are complaining about a non-existent problem? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestLake Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 I think the injuries are fine now after the patch, i am sure most people just need to tweak their training routines or are playing players who are not fully fit imo. Oh!Congratulations!You can join SI FM testing team right now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butters76 Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 This is the RL table and it looks pretty much the same in numbers as in my game http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php Compare it to your premier league injury table ingame. There are injuries in Real life football and there were too few in FM08. From what I've seen so far in FM09 it seems pretty spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeboy Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 We are working on a 9.2, no release date set yet though.Regarding injuries - you can minimize them by: - Not buying or playing injury prone players - Managing your players' fitness, eg not wearing them out in matches especially when they arent match fit However they are part and parcel of football and hence you will, like all teams IRL, go through peaks and troughs with them. So while I will be tweaking injuries a bit further for 9.2, it wont necessarily mean less, just a more realistic spread. Pathetic....part and parcel of football? i had 2 injuries in the 1st 15 mins of the 1st friendly after having the game feeze 6 times, both players out for 2 months!, im yet to play my 2nd game due to this feezing ***** Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bod1035 Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Oh!Congratulations!You can join SI FM testing team right now! U dont need to be such a tool, i am sure with an attitude like yours people are going to be falling over themselves to help u out:thdn: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestLake Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 U dont need to be such a tool, i am sure with an attitude like yours people are going to be falling over themselves to help u out:thdn: I apologize. But I've waited months to play the FM2009,I hope it to be excellent,but now I cant play the game at all,maybe I should wait for the next patch while you guys think this patch is just ok. Ok,maybe its the time for me to forget this game from now on. You guys enjoy it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scuderiafan Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 We are working on a 9.2, no release date set yet though. Hi! And are you planning to deal with the 2d classic mode's lag? Because a lot of people complaining about that problem, as i do, so it would be great to see it's fixed. I can't play the game like that. Thanks in advance! Scud Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indi75 Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 My injuries are much better, I've lost Kuyt in preseason for a month, but that's it really, a couple of little 1 week niggles which is actually far better than actual Liverpool injuries in preseason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Jones Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Do you think this could be the fastest 2nd patch in FM history? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ec$t@$io Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 I am having no problems with injuries now. I have had a few bad moments where multiple players have been out but on the whole and using a medium training schedule I would say that they are very realistic. The overall injuries table looks about right too. -E- Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick A Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 WHat is this bug?? can you explain it more? i havnt had change of position automatically....though i have 13 players in my tactic screen sometimes I have 13 players every single game. It is very annoying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leedsforever Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 So many errors. I'm sorry but it's an absolute joke. There is no way there would be this many errors in the fully released game with proper testing haven taken place. There was even a patch released on the first day FM09 came out, what does that tell you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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