joaquingsegovia Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, Totalfootballfan said: Hi, Raptor filters can be used with Destroyer tactic and Predator filters can be used with Conqueror tactic. I've updated the OP and added that info. Thank you so much!! Greetings from Spain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
n0rek Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Hey guys, Is it just me or the new match engine is horrible? I mean going 1on1 now is super easy but only few situations are ending goal, passes from CB to Attacker is 100% success and multiple shots on target are not getting any results. Not to mention that poor teams are getting great results driven by AI. @TFF thanks for great tactics, again 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicnut Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, n0rek said: Hey guys, Is it just me or the new match engine is horrible? I mean going 1on1 now is super easy but only few situations are ending goal, passes from CB to Attacker is 100% success and multiple shots on target are not getting any results. Not to mention that poor teams are getting great results driven by AI. @TFF thanks for great tactics, again Well it's certainly not just you. Btw nothing is "super easy" i'd say the conversion rate improved only somewhat and is still quite scripted. Saw some taps ins missed even on beta. Edited February 3, 2020 by magicnut 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
n0rek Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 I see, good to know. I'm a CM/FM player for a long time and I saw many hops and downs of this game but such poor Match engine was never an option, TBH I thought they will fix bugs from FM 19 but they actually only added more of them 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
karanhsingh Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 You know when you're winning too often and suddenly all your strikers forget how to score goals and you keep dominating games and losing? Any tips on what to do then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 hour ago, karanhsingh said: You know when you're winning too often and suddenly all your strikers forget how to score goals and you keep dominating games and losing? Any tips on what to do then? if you are asking what can be done in case your attackers miss their scoring chances then I'm afraid not much can be done except buying better attackers ... but even the best attackers in the game from time to time have unlucky runs when they miss their scoring chances … the better scoring attributers of your attackers, the higher conversion rate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
salforis789 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Hi @totalfootball, how do you set these instructions for DLP support ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, salforis789 said: Hi @totalfootball, how do you set these instructions for DLP support ? Hi, PIs stay after you change the roles/duties but they don't have any effect if they aren't available a role/duty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senz Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 There is a new match update! I think it's just the beta who has gone public. So Destroyer v3 will be working fine? Screenshot of a reply from a FM mod. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, Senz said: There is a new match update! I think it's just the beta who has gone public. So Destroyer v3 will be working fine? Screenshot of a reply from a FM mod. The retail version and the public beta version are the same now - 20.2.4-1343694(m.e. v2039) The current M.E v2039 is slight different from what we had on the previous public beta build m.e. v2031 I've watches few matches and noticed that there are slight M.E. changes but nothing significant compared with the previous public beta M.E. v2031 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souljacker Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Anyone come up with a tweak to use when playing against Liverpool? I'm on retail with Arsenal using Raptorv4 and dominating the league but get knocked out of Europe by liverpool seeming to score every other shot every year. Any thoughts would be welcome! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garotospfc Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Totalfootballfan said: A versão comercial e a versão beta pública são as mesmas agora - 20.2.4-1343694 (me v2039) O atual ME v2039 é um pouco diferente do que tínhamos na versão beta pública anterior me construir a v2031 Eu assisti a algumas partidas e notei que há pequenas alterações no ME, mas nada de significativo em comparação com o beta público anterior ME v2031 Hi @Totalfootballfan, Will the tactics be updated or will it not be necessary? Edited February 5, 2020 by garotospfc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 minute ago, garotospfc said: Hi @Totalfootballfan, Will the tactics be updated or will it not be necessary? Hi, I don't think that it will require updating the tactics from what I've seen so far Destroyer V3 has became even slightly more efficient But I can only say for sure after some tests and to produce such tests I need FMRTE but it hasn't been updated yet 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dersturmer Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Oh no, no update 20.2.4 on FMT. We were thrown again! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, Souljacker said: Anyone come up with a tweak to use when playing against Liverpool? I'm on retail with Arsenal using Raptorv4 and dominating the league but get knocked out of Europe by liverpool seeming to score every other shot every year. Any thoughts would be welcome! Do you play on FMT? If not then I suggest going for the current 20.2.4 patch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Dersturmer said: Oh no, no update 20.2.4 on FMT. We were thrown again! I think just couple of days and FMT also will be updated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRNTFN Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) Hi! I use DESTROYER V3 as my main tactic and TIME WASTING TACTIC when I need to keep a match score. Can you make a tactic for slots №3 so that all players attack? I will use it if I lose in the last minutes of a match. Edited February 5, 2020 by DRNTFN Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, DRNTFN said: Hi! I use DESTROYER V3 as my main tactic and TIME WASTING TACTIC when I need to keep a match score. Can you make a tactic for 3 slots so that all players attack? I will use it if I lose in the last minutes of a match. Hi mate, I can say that I've tired to create "Overload" tactics in case when you need score goal at any cost but all of them were less effective than the base tactics so I suggest sticking with the base tactics in cases when you need to score because I haven't found anything more efficient than that in such cases. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRNTFN Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Totalfootballfan said: Привет приятель, Я могу сказать, что я устал создавать тактику "перегрузки" в случае, когда вам нужно забить гол любой ценой, но все они были менее эффективны, чем базовая тактика, поэтому я предлагаю придерживаться базовой тактики в тех случаях, когда вам нужно забить, потому что я не нашел ничего более эффективного, чем это в таких случаях. Thanks! And where can I see useful PPM for Destroyer v3 ? Edited February 5, 2020 by DRNTFN Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, DRNTFN said: Thanks! And where can I see useful PPM for Destroyer v3 ? I haven't posted PPMs this year because honestly I don't see there's something gamebreaking in them... I might add them at some point later I find only this can be important: "Comes Deep To Get Ball" PPM is a negative PPM for MCL position, I suggest avoiding having it for your player at the MCL position 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuffboy Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 so should we use raptor on destroyer in new ME ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 minute ago, tuffboy said: so should we use raptor on destroyer in new ME ? I suggest using Destroyer V3 I'm producing a quick test with Bouremouth, predicted 15th... will post results in minutes 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 As I said I am not noticing that the current m.e. v2039 has significantly changed compared with the previous public beta m.e. v2031, I see there are only few changes It looks like Destroyer V3 tactic has became even slightly more efficient Bouremouth, predicted 15th, the 1st half of the 1st season 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 A home match vs Liverpool an away match vs Southampton 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsopo Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 I am not able to load Destroyer tactic with the new update. Is the problem from me or the tactic uploaded is not viable with the new version? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, rsopo said: I am not able to load Destroyer tactic with the new update. Is the problem from me or the tactic uploaded is not viable with the new version? What do you mean? You can't download it from Mediafire? I've just checked and it worked fine for me... I can attach it (PUBLIC - BETA - FM20) DESTROYER V3 by TFF.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsopo Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, Totalfootballfan said: What do you mean? You can't download it from Mediafire? I've just checked and it worked fine for me... I can attach it (PUBLIC - BETA - FM20) DESTROYER V3 by TFF.fmf 45.87 kB · 0 downloads In Game if i go to Tactics and select Load Tactic and go to Downloads folder I can't see the tactic file. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, rsopo said: In Game if i go to Tactics and select Load Tactic and go to Downloads folder I can't see the tactic file. mate, in that case there could many reasons so it's hard to say something certain but I can tell you for sure that no matter what game version you play you still should be able to "see" the tactic... probably, you are doing something wrong or there are issue with your OS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsopo Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Totalfootballfan said: mate, in that case there could many reasons so it's hard to say something certain but I can tell you for sure that no matter what game version you play you still should be able to "see" the tactic... probably, you are doing something wrong or there are issue with your OS I discovered a workaround. I moved the tactic in tactics folder from Football Manager 2020 folder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 the new patch - 20.2.4-1343694(m.e. v2039) Destroyer V3 A sim test of the 1st season with Bournemouth, predicted 15th I had very similar results on the public beta, maybe, now the tactic seems a bit more efficient 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossGib900 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Hey mate, think a 4231 is possible since the update? Or 41221? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 10 minutes ago, RossGib900 said: Hey mate, think a 4231 is possible since the update? Or 41221? Hi mate, I really doubt that but will see... I just started a proper testing on m.e. 2039 So far I can say definitely there are ME changes compared with the public beta( m.e. 2031) and it might require do some tweaking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossGib900 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Totalfootballfan said: Hi mate, I really doubt that but will see... I just started a proper testing on m.e. 2039 So far I can say definitely there are ME changes compared with the public beta( m.e. 2031) and it might require do some tweaking Thanks mate, so destroyer BETA version be the best to use in the meantime? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, RossGib900 said: Thanks mate, so destroyer BETA version be the best to use in the meantime? Yeahh… so far I suggest sticking with Destroyer but it might worth giving Raptor a go too In coming days I'm sure I'll clear it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delaneytomlinson Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 @Totalfootballfan In my second season with Inter using Raptor V4 and everything is going downhill, iv'e lost 4 home games scoring 1 goal, lost to super cup final, lost in the second round of the Italian Cup to Juve despite having the most chances on goal in 85% of these games the engine is really pissing me off, also another thing Lukaku & Martinez aren't scoring enough they have 14 appearances 6 goals and 19 appearances 8 goals, Haaland has 12 goals in 17 apps and Esposito 10 goals in 12 apps. Should I change anything or keep it the same? I'm also 10 points behind Lazio who are first with 16 games left, I play Lazio away next then Juve two games later both these games could really define my season as I don't see myself knocking out PSG in the CL as their attack is way to strong. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 @delaneytomlinson if you play on 20.2.4 then I suggest trying Destroyer V3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delaneytomlinson Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 12 minutes ago, Totalfootballfan said: @delaneytomlinson if you play on 20.2.4 then I suggest trying Destroyer V3 i'm playing on the retail version how do I do the the latest update on steam? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinnlfc Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 (edited) Conqueror v3 or Predator v4 for newest update? (20.2.4-1343694(m.e. v2039) Edited February 6, 2020 by Martinnlfc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sverige91 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Martinnlfc said: Conqueror v3 or Predator v4 for newest update? (20.2.4-1343694(m.e. v2039) He recommend Destroyer V3. I dont think that other tactics have been tested to newest. He is focusing more on Destroyer V3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 5 hours ago, delaneytomlinson said: i'm playing on the retail version how do I do the the latest update on steam? Steam should do that automatically if not then I suggest quite the game and restart Steam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
910.duongtanhiep Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 so the engine of the retail version is better than the public beta? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, 910.duongtanhiep said: so the engine of the retail version is better than the public beta? at the moment the public beta and the retail version have the same M.E. - v2039 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
karanhsingh Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 What do you usually do when chasing a goal with say 20-30 minutes to go? My usual tweaks are to increase the mentality to positive or attacking, and also up the tempo. Also FYI I am playing with an IWB on the right (because my player is two-footed) and a regular WB on the left, which is still giving good results, and in fact the LWB has popped up with a few assists as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmjonek Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 i'm using Conqueror and Destroyer dependint who and where i play. getting really good results with Leicester. Both tactics are doing the job, just have to "rotate" them depending on opposite team and how game is going. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 ********** A new tactic "PUNISHER" has been added to the OP This tactic is a tweak of Destroyer V3 tactic, the only change is DPL was moved to DM position I find that Punisher has potential outplayed Destroyer but I can't say that for sure, it requires producing more testing 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 18 minutes ago, karanhsingh said: What do you usually do when chasing a goal with say 20-30 minutes to go? My usual tweaks are to increase the mentality to positive or attacking, and also up the tempo. I can say that so far I haven't got any solid confirmation that any changes would do better in that case so I prefer sticking to the default tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busog-Lusog Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 18 minutes ago, Totalfootballfan said: ********** A new tactic "PUNISHER" has been added to the OP This tactic is a tweak of Destroyer V3 tactic, the only change is DPL was moved to DM position I find that Punisher has potential outplayed Destroyer but I can't say that for sure, it requires producing more testing Nice mate! Any idea of when you are sure if Punisher is better than Destroyer, and which on do you recommend now to use? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, Ninodebest said: Nice mate! Any idea of when you are sure if Punisher is better than Destroyer, and which on do you recommend now to use? I think during the next few days everything will become clear So far I suggest using Punisher 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 ********** A new tactic "EXECUTIONER" has been added to the OP This is a very attacking tactic so use it with caution "Punisher" tactic and "Executioner" tacitc could be a very good combo "Punisher" tactic can be used when you want to play defensively and "Executioner" tactic can be used when you want to play attacking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viney Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 15 minutes ago, Totalfootballfan said: A new tactic "EXECUTIONER" has been added to the OP This is a very attacking tactic so use it with cushions I think you mean caution not cushions Important to be comfortable when you're managing I suppose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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