magicnut Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 12 minutes ago, Totalfootballfan said: ********* ALL TACTICS HAVE BEEN UPDATED CHANGES: There are a decent amount of tweaks including important set-pieces tweaks I'll add tactics ranking a bit later because at the moment some of them started to deliver surprisingly high results so it requires producing more test to be sure So my list of tactics for ME V2039 looks like this: PUNISHER V2 PYROMANCER V2 RAIDER V3 PHOENIX V3 STINGER V1 How "surprising" were the results that those other tactic produced? Was it anything *really* surprising or ? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausmjace Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, magicnutt said: How "surprising" were the results that those other tactic produced? Was it anything *really* surprising or ? He better cut to the chase real quick!! Very excited to try a powerful AMC tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
petraxil Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Spoiler Agree . I really love strong AMC Tact's reminded me the good old fm's . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busog-Lusog Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, magicnutt said: How "surprising" were the results that those other tactic produced? Was it anything *really* surprising or ? For me Punisher V1 worked quite good, not worse than the tactics during the other MEs. Looking forward to see the new ranking of the new tactics. Edited February 8, 2020 by Ninodebest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaky-x Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Hey TFF, I can't see pictures.Please help me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 18 minutes ago, magicnutt said: How "surprising" were the results that those other tactic produced? Was it anything *really* surprising or ? I meant "surprising" for that specific formation In general I find that all tactics got an efficient boost about 15-20% 4 minutes ago, Peaky-x said: Hey TFF, I can't see pictures.Please help me Hi, It could be because your provider blocks https://postimg.cc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 ********* Guys, I've updated the filters, I made few adjustments and now they can be used with any tactic at the OP ********* 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicnut Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Totalfootballfan said: Guys, I've updated the filters, I made few adjustments and now they can be used with any tactic at the OP Do u think at least efficiency of destroyer v3 on beta was reached on the newest most efficient tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 Just now, magicnutt said: Do u think at least efficiency of destroyer v3 on beta was reached on the newest most efficient tactic? Yes, it's been reached Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 51 minutes ago, cocogumbo said: I've got Haaland and Esposito as strikers so would you suggest Pyromancer as the base tactic? Or just use one of them and use Punisher? I've also got Rafael Leao as back up so would be a shame not to use 2 up front anymore. Hi mate, At the moment I'm producing an extensive testing to rank the tacticsso I can't say for sure for now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busog-Lusog Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 13 minutes ago, Totalfootballfan said: Hi mate, At the moment I'm producing an extensive testing to rank the tacticsso I can't say for sure for now When do you expect the ranking mate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 ******** Guys, I've updated Raider and Phoenix tactic to V3 because I found there was a critical issue in the defensive corner setup so if you don't use your own set pieces then I suggest go the new versions 9 minutes ago, Ninodebest said: When do you expect the ranking mate? mate, I can't give any ETA... it might take a couple of days Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busog-Lusog Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 11 minutes ago, Totalfootballfan said: ******** Guys, I've updated Raider and Phoenix tactic to V3 because I found there was a critical issue in the defensive corner setup so if you don't use your own set pieces then I suggest go the new versions mate, I can't give any ETA... it might take a couple of days Which tactic(s) do you recommend to use in the mean time? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 11 minutes ago, Ninodebest said: Which tactic(s) do you recommend to use in the mean time? I'd say you can't go wrong the latest versions of Punisher/Pyromancer tactics Also, I got extremely high result with the latest version of Raider tactic but I want to test it more to exclude any luck factor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warszawa Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 15 hours ago, Crusho79bv said: Up to FM20, we could overachieve in the first season with all the teams played, but now ... it`s a different story! And to be honest, i like it like that, it`s more realistic, no more Champions in the first season with teams predicted to finish 12th or 15th. My feelings are the same its much harder to finish 2nd with Cardiff scoring over 100goals like last year, its more realistic this year. I have nearly finish my Crystal Palace test its looks like we will finish in top 7, which is great for team predicted 12th and with no transfers, SS later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FmLeeFm Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Stinger is by far the best tactic for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tydomo Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 @FmLeeFm stinger working well for you? thinking of giving it ago? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruffer23 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 @Totalfootballfan would you advise against using Phoenix for Chelsea ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, Scruffer23 said: @Totalfootballfan would you advise against using Phoenix for Chelsea ?? I think Phoenix/Stinger combo should work fine with Chelsea Also, I would considered Punisher/Raider combo At the moment I'm doing a sim test with Chelsea using Phoenix V4 tactic...I'll post results in 10-15 minutes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupant Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 How much difference is there with phoenix 1 vs 3 efficiency wise? Because i don't like to use inverted wingback.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruffer23 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, Totalfootballfan said: I think Phoenix/Stinger combo should work fine with Chelsea Also, I would considered Punisher/Raider combo At the moment I'm doing a sim test with Chelsea using Phoenix V4 tactic...I'll post results in 10-15 minutes When do you use the other tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Rupant said: How much difference is there with phoenix 1 vs 3 efficiency wise? Because i don't like to use inverted wingback.. I'd say V4 is much better than V1, a lot of important tweaks have been made including critical set pieces tweaks 4 minutes ago, Scruffer23 said: When do you use the other tactic You can use the tactics with the AM position when you think you can be more attacking, wise using of the AM tactics can further boost your results Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
910.duongtanhiep Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 @Totalfootballfan any update for executioner? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicnut Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 (edited) Im thinking of trying the newest umm..was it punisher or something?or whatever it is with Stuttgart , would I get punished for trying it once I am in the bundesliga? I just don't want to get relegated like that lad on Spurs and whatnot . (If I was to cut to the chase then minimum cl finish first season or my interest is Lost). I'll get back to managing FC Uninstalled if I get punished!! Edited February 8, 2020 by magicnut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, magicnutt said: Im thinking of trying the newest umm..was it punisher or something?or whatever it is with Stuttgart , would I get punished for trying it once I am in the bundesliga? Mate, as I said I'll rank the tactics later, it requires producing more testing because at the moment I've got too many surprising results that requires more solid confirmation, for example I had some very high result which was even better than Punisher/Pyromancer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
94RD Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Totalfootballfan said: ********* ALL TACTICS HAVE BEEN UPDATED CHANGES: There are a decent amount of tweaks including important set-pieces tweaks I'll add tactics ranking a bit later because at the moment some of them started to deliver surprisingly high results so it requires producing more test to be sure So my list of tactics for ME V2039 looks like this: PUNISHER V2 PYROMANCER V2 RAIDER V3 PHOENIX V3 STINGER V1 Is this in order from best tactics to the least? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicnut Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Totalfootballfan said: Mate, as I said I'll rank the tactics later, it requires producing more testing because at the moment I've got too many surprising results that requires more solid confirmation, for example I had some very high result which was even better than Punisher/Pyromancer So which tactic at the moment *seems* to produce the best results from preliminary testing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 6 hours ago, njXuanX said: @Totalfootballfan Any chance to create some version of zero-top/strikeless tactics? In the past it works much more dominate and creative. Hi mate, I've tried strikerless in FM20 but I wasn't impressive by their performance 6 minutes ago, magicnutt said: So which tactic at the moment *seems* to produce the best results from preliminary testing? Punisher/Raider combo looks very solid at the moment 8 minutes ago, 94RD said: Is this in order from best tactics to the least? No, the order is random... I'll rank the tactics a bit later Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 Chelsea, predicted 3rd Phoenix V4 A sim test of the 1st season The Morale and Conditions were frozen by FMRTE for all teams in the league Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocogumbo Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Totalfootballfan said: Hi mate, At the moment I'm producing an extensive testing to rank the tacticsso I can't say for sure for now No problem! If I was to use Punisher, would you drop Haaland or Esposito into the SS role? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 51 minutes ago, 910.duongtanhiep said: @Totalfootballfan any update for executioner? So far I've decided removing it from the OP because I can't any role for it at the moment 13 minutes ago, cocogumbo said: No problem! If I was to use Punisher, would you drop Haaland or Esposito into the SS role? Esposito will do better at AMC position than Haaland 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
94RD Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Punisher. That inverted Wing Back is amazing! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinobremnato1 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 @totalfootball See for tactical briefings do you just skip everytime or can you just delegate it to your Ass man? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, martinobremnato1 said: @totalfootball See for tactical briefings do you just skip everytime or can you just delegate it to your Ass man? I just skip them 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackgawthorp Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Hi TFF, can you please post a Tottenham sim test on one of the new tactics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 14 minutes ago, jackgawthorp said: Hi TFF, can you please post a Tottenham sim test on one of the new tactics. Hi, I'll sim with Phoenix V4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvs Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Hello TFF, I have a save with Southampton and was wondering which tactics, home/away you would recommend? Cheers! Just now, Totalfootballfan said: Hi, I'll sim with Phoenix V4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Corvs said: Hello TFF, I have a save with Southampton and was wondering which tactics, home/away you would recommend? Cheers! Hi, I would suggest starting all matches with Raider tactic and during the matches see how it's going and if you think you can be more attacking then switching for Punisher or Pyromancer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvs Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Just now, Totalfootballfan said: Hi, I would suggest starting all matches with Raider tactic and during the matches see how it's going and if you think you can be more attacking then switching for Punisher or Pyromancer Sweet, thank you very much. Appreciate the effort you put into these tactics! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cortary Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 bournemounth (phoenix v4) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuffboy Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 (edited) @Totalfootballfan u think STINGER, Pyromancer and Punisher would work if MD and MC play asymethric like MCL and MDR ? Edited February 8, 2020 by tuffboy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusho79bv Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Started with PHOENIX V3 and now using v4 with minor tweaks : Mentality : Positive Left IWB : Attacking ( identical to right IWB ) Amazing results : 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 11 minutes ago, tuffboy said: @Totalfootballfan u think STINGER, Pyromancer and Punisher would work if MD and MC play asymethric like MCL and MDR ? If you do that then the tactic will become less effective because the right IWB won't works and there'll be a negative impact for the attack and the defense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 1 hour ago, jackgawthorp said: Hi TFF, can you please post a Tottenham sim test on one of the new tactics. I think with Raider V4 tactic the result could be even better Tottenham, predicted 4th Phoenix V4 A sim test of the 1st season The Morale and Conditions were frozen by FMRTE for all teams in the league 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicnut Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 32 minutes ago, Totalfootballfan said: I think with Raider V4 tactic the result could be even better Tottenham, predicted 4th Phoenix V4 A sim test of the 1st season The Morale and Conditions were frozen by FMRTE for all teams in the league And I heard the lad was being punished to relegation zone using Punisher do you recon that maybe punisher is a less suitable tactic for spurs? Anyhow decided to start a new Stuttgart save after..2 weeks ish of no football manager? Will see how it goes. Will cut to the chase if doesn't go so smooth! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pw75 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 24 minutes ago, magicnutt said: And I heard the lad was being punished to relegation zone using Punisher do you recon that maybe punisher is a less suitable tactic for spurs? Anyhow decided to start a new Stuttgart save after..2 weeks ish of no football manager? Will see how it goes. Will cut to the chase if doesn't go so smooth! Spurs are now 15th, onwards and upwards! Using Raider v4 and better results and feel of a game so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicnut Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Just now, pw75 said: Spurs are now 15th, onwards and upwards! Using Raider v4 and better results and feel of a game so far. Wow thats whats up! Sounds like overachievement to me lad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 Southampton, predicted 12th Punisher V2 A sim test of the 1st season The Morale and Conditions were frozen by FMRTE for all teams in the league Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvs Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, Totalfootballfan said: Southampton, predicted 12th Punisher V2 A sim test of the 1st season The Morale and Conditions were frozen by FMRTE for all teams in the league Great Result! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busog-Lusog Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 @Totalfootballfan Any pre-ranking after the tests you've done this far? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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