magicnut Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, Ninodebest said: And is this the new #1 for you? We are about to cut to the Chase with it on fm arena lad don't you worry and we'll find out! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 14 minutes ago, Ninodebest said: And is this the new #1 for you? I find it's a well balanced tactic that can be used as base tactic for all matches, also, it can be used in a combo as an offensive tactic, its efficiency amount the best in my testing 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busog-Lusog Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, Totalfootballfan said: I find it's a well balanced tactic that can be used as base tactic for all matches, also, it can be used in a combo as an offensive tactic, its efficiency amount the best in my testing Between the lines I see that this is your new favorite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ninodebest said: Between the lines I see that this is your new favorite Yes, I very like that tactic, its efficiency one of the best had on the new patch 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busog-Lusog Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, Totalfootballfan said: Yes, I very like that tactic, its efficiency one of the best had on the new patch Seems like 4-4-2 is always coming back to the surface, haha. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 13 minutes ago, Ninodebest said: Seems like 4-4-2 is always coming back to the surface, haha. Yup, 4-4-2 has been the best or one the best formation to play in FM for long time already and this patch isn't exception 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manidaro7 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Totalfootballfan said: ********* A NEW TACTIC HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE OP BLOODLUST V1 When I thought I had finally found the right combo (ashbringer v1 and cerber v1), here you go again.So I ask you,which combo do you suggest to use to continue playing and succeed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, manidaro7 said: When I thought I had finally found the right combo (ashbringer v1 and cerber v1), here you go again.So I ask you,which combo do you suggest to use to continue playing and succeed? you can try using Bloodlust as the attacking tactic instead of Cerber in the combo but I can both tactics are very good tactic with very similar efficiency ... just Bloodlust is more attacking and it could be a bit more effective but I can't say for sure at the moment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreBothmaTax Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Cape Town City FC - League Expectation: 4th I selected my first team and went on holiday mode - simmed the season. Won the local cup competition, and the South African Premiership. Used Bloodlust only. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 Guys, just want to bring your attention that for the new tactic Bloodlust you need wingers for the ML/MR positions on so left footed on the left and right footed on the right Probably, I should update the filters too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrows Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 hours ago, magicnutt said: We are about to cut to the Chase with it on fm arena lad don't you worry and we'll find out! Any tactic testing complete yet on 20.2.4? Can’t find anything on FM base or arena yet. Would be good to see for this difficult match engine 🤷♂️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstam Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, Arrows said: Any tactic testing complete yet on 20.2.4? Can’t find anything on FM base or arena yet. Would be good to see for this difficult match engine 🤷♂️ There is on FM arena, go to tables and then patch 20.2.4. Cerber was first in terms of points for favourite and underdog last time I checked, although only a few tactics have been tested. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cortary Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 CARBER V1 is amazing !! thank you Totalfootballfan 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttsd Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Cerber is unexpected strong!!! even compete with the biggest teams, Attack never Stop!!! i don't know whether can it be any better ??? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelvin0131 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 5 hours ago, cortary said: CARBER V1 is thank you Totalfootballfan amazing !! what training do you use with the tactic ?? will you let the assistant do Tactical Briefings ?? thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
santiago_staiger Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 On 10/2/2020 at 2:21, santiago_staiger said: El destructor sigue funcionando perfecto en mi Sassuolo guardar. Cada vez que había cambiado la táctica, estúpidamente perdí, así que ... tal vez intentarías otra vez con Destroyer As i said before, 4 4 2 still working for me. Could destroyer be back? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelvin0131 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) @Totalfootballfan I love 442, CARBER V1 very GOOD for me !!!!!!! thank you so much Edited February 13, 2020 by kelvin0131 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicnut Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, Arrows said: Any tactic testing complete yet on 20.2.4? Can’t find anything on FM base or arena yet. Would be good to see for this difficult match engine 🤷♂️ FM Arena welcomes you to check out our chase-cutting tactical evaluations! Edited February 13, 2020 by magicnut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmdb Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 I'm not able to keep up with so many updates to the tactics. My favorite formation was always 4-3-3, I would like to know what are the big differences between SLAYER V2 and PHOENIX V4? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardie37 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Do we still train the full-backs as WBR and WBL in individual training as per the OP when using Bloodlust even if they play in a flat back 4 in that formation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Douglas Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Great tactics sir, just finding a bit more enjoyment by tweaking your bloodlust tactic from balanced to attacking mentality and changing the wingers from support to attack. Thankyou. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manidaro7 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 friend @Totalfootballfan, looking at the last tactic you published I read that you have to put on the right wings a footballer with right foot and vice versa. Now I wonder, if we have to use in combo ashbringer v1 (which has people on the outside of the foot opposite to the position it occupies) with bloodlust (which has people on the outside not of the opposite foot), how do we regulate ourselves? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, manidaro7 said: friend @Totalfootballfan, looking at the last tactic you published I read that you have to put on the right wings a footballer with right foot and vice versa. Now I wonder, if we have to use in combo ashbringer v1 (which has people on the outside of the foot opposite to the position it occupies) with bloodlust (which has people on the outside not of the opposite foot), how do we regulate ourselves? Hi mate, I'll add more info about it later today 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 ********** A MASSIVE TACTIC UPDATE Guys, I've made a massive update for all tactics at OP, some of them have been updated and some of them have been removed from the OP. At moment the OP looks this way: The best combo to play - Bloodlust V3 + Ashbringer V2: Bloodlust V3 Ashbringer V2 The second best combo to play - SLAYER V3 + CRUSHER V3: Crusher V3 Slayer V3 Also, guys... I've want to say that I've deiced not removing Cerber tactic from the OP because I still haven't deiced what to so with it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 Please notice that for the new tactics you need wingers for ML/MR and AML/AMR positions so the new requirement look like this: AMR / MR : Right Foot – Very Strong AML / ML : Left Foot - Very Strong/Strong/Fairly Strong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardie37 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 What individual training should we put our AM on for Bloodlust V2 mate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busog-Lusog Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) @Totalfootballfan Bloodlust V1 did amazingly well (because mainly I have some really good strikers). How much better is V2 compared to V1. Only issue for me is that I cannot use my 2 best strikers now Are you really sure V2 is better than V1? Edited February 13, 2020 by Ninodebest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Wardie37 said: What individual training should we put our AM on for Bloodlust V2 mate? Advanced Playmaker - Attack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Ninodebest said: @Totalfootballfan Bloodlust V1 did amazingly well (because mainly I have some really good strikers). How much better is V2 compared to V1. Only issue for me is that I cannot use my 2 best strikers now Mate, I can't give exact numbers but I can say that V2 is better than V1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busog-Lusog Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Totalfootballfan said: Mate, I can't give exact numbers but I can say that V2 is better than V1 So that means 4-4-2 is past for now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falkenberg Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Is it a mistake that the RB in bloodlust is WB and LB is IWB? But not in Ashbringer.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicnut Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Just now, Ninodebest said: So that means 4-4-2 is past for now? Im about to cut to the chase on chasecut arena aka fmarena Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Falkenberg said: Is it a mistake that the RB in bloodlust is WB and LB is IWB? But not in Ashbringer.. Yes, it's a mistake Thank for the info,... I'll update the tactic soon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 Guys, I've updated Bloodlust tactic to V3 and fixed the mistake for DR positon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Süleyman Çakır Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Totalfootballfan said: Millet, Bloodlust taktiğini V3'e güncelledim ve DR pozisyonu hatasını düzelttim One of them is in support duty, one is in offensive mission. Are you sure it's updated correctly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Süleyman Çakır said: One of them is in support duty, one is in offensive mission. Are you sure it's updated correctly? Yes, mate... in this case that's correct Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lipebtavares Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 What are the main attributes for AM? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Süleyman Çakır Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Just now, Totalfootballfan said: Yes, mate... in this case that's correct Thank you. But if both are used for support or offensive duty, does it cause a problem? In short, if two of their duties are the same, should they be support or offensive? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Süleyman Çakır Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 51 minutes ago, Totalfootballfan said: ********** A MASSIVE TACTIC UPDATE Guys, I've made a massive update for all tactics at OP, some of them have been updated and some of them have been removed from the OP. At moment the OP looks this way: The best combo to play - Bloodlust V3 + Ashbringer V2: Bloodlust V3 Ashbringer V2 The second best combo to play - SLAYER V3 + CRUSHER V3: Slayer V3 CRUSHER V3 Also, guys... I've want to say that I've deiced not removing Cerber tactic from the OP because I still haven't deiced what to so with it. Have you tested enough of these new tactics? Unfortunately, wing players cannot play as well as the back-footed wing player. If you have tested, can you take a few screenshots? Thank you, I wish you continued success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Süleyman Çakır said: Have you tested enough of these new tactics? Unfortunately, wing players cannot play as well as the back-footed wing player. If you have tested, can you take a few screenshots? Thank you, I wish you continued success. Sorry, mate... I don't understand your question 10 minutes ago, Süleyman Çakır said: Thank you. But if both are used for support or offensive duty, does it cause a problem? In short, if two of their duties are the same, should they be support or offensive? I find it works great Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Süleyman Çakır Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, Totalfootballfan said: Sorry, mate... I don't understand your question I find it works great If the opponent is equal to us or has weak strength from us, we use the bloodlust tactics, if the opponent is stronger than us, we use the ashbringer tactics, right? Let's imagine we are Watford. Watford - Liverpool (Ashbringer) Watford - Bolton (Bloodlust) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 22 hours ago, Süleyman Çakır said: If the opponent is equal to us or has weak strength from us, we use the bloodlust tactics, if the opponent is stronger than us, we use the ashbringer tactics, right? Let's imagine we are Watford. Watford - Liverpool (Ashbringer) Watford - Bolton (Bloodlust) First of all, you always can change the tactics during match if you think you made a wrong choice or if the situation during a match changes Let's say if you think that your opponent in the next match will be play attacking against and you think that your opponent is much stronger than you then it makes sense to use a caution approach and start with Ashbringer/Slayer but if you that your opponent in the next match will park a bus against you so it makes sense to you a more attacking approach and start with Bloodlust/Crusher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manidaro7 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 @Totalfootballfanfriend tff, after your last update you say you use the best combo: bloodlust v3 and ashbringer v2 but which one should be used at the beginning of the match and which of the two is offensive? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongbat81 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Hey tff so now mr: are right footed and ml: are left footed are corners still left corners ml right cornes mr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, manidaro7 said: @Totalfootballfanfriend tff, after your last update you say you use the best combo: bloodlust v3 and ashbringer v2 but which one should be used at the beginning of the match and which of the two is offensive? Bloodlust/Crusher are an offensive tactic and Ashbringer/Slayaer are defensive tactics Let's say if you think that your opponent in the next match will be play attacking against and you think that your opponent is much stronger than you then it makes sense to use a caution approach and start with Ashbringer/Slayer but if you that your opponent in the next match will park a bus against you so it makes sense to you a more attacking approach and start with Bloodlust/Crusher Also, you always can change the tactics during match if you think you made a wrong choice or if the situation during a match changes 4 minutes ago, Mongbat81 said: Hey tff so now mr: are right footed and ml: are left footed are corners still left corners ml right cornes mr Hi mate, There's no change regard the corner takes, it's stayed the same The new requirements: AMR / MR : Right Foot – Very Strong AML / ML : Left Foot - Very Strong/Strong/Fairly Strong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manidaro7 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 ok thanks a lot tff! do you think they are definitive tactics or do we have to expect other updates or even tactical changes in the next few days? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 26 minutes ago, manidaro7 said: ok thanks a lot tff! do you think they are definitive tactics or do we have to expect other updates or even tactical changes in the next few days? I find the new tactics offer a very high efficiency for the current ME and I find them a very solid approach to play FM20 and I'm sure that it'll be extremely hard to find further improvements for them but if any improvement are found than they'll be insignificant which would not requires rebuilding your team for them But it could be I'll add few tweaks to Cerber tactic because I see a potential in this approach and I find it's a very solid tactic to play, anyway, as I said I find the new tactics is a very solid approach to play FM20 until further ME changes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toni&Guus Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Hi TFF, I was using the combo Cerber V1 and Ashbringer V1 with my Atletico Madrid team. After using those tactics (using Ashbringer against strong opponents and Cerber against weaker opponents) my team was absolutely killing it in the liga. Scoring easy and conceding only 1 goal in 13 games and scoring 49 goals. Quite impressive I have to say. I will start using your first combo now. The bloodlust and ashbringer v2. Kudo's man! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Süleyman Çakır Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 25 minutes ago, Totalfootballfan said: Yeni taktiklerin mevcut ME için çok yüksek bir verimlilik sunduğunu düşünüyorum ve FM20 oynamak için onlara çok sağlam bir yaklaşım buluyorum ve eminim ki onlar için daha fazla iyileştirme bulmak çok zor olacak, ancak herhangi bir gelişme bulunursa önemsiz olacaklar, bu da ekibinizi onlar için yeniden inşa etmeyi gerektirmeyecek Ama Cerber taktiğine birkaç tweaks ekleyebilirim çünkü bu yaklaşımda bir potansiyel görüyorum ve yine de oynamak için çok sağlam bir taktik buluyorum, çünkü yeni taktiklerin FM20 oynamak için çok sağlam bir yaklaşım olduğunu buldum. daha fazla ME değişene kadar With the last two tactics you did, I got the same result when I arrived mid-season. What do you think about this topic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Süleyman Çakır Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 The only difference I can see is that more positions were entered with the cerber and ashbringer v1 tactic, but in 2 matches you would definitely have 1 goal. In the Bloodlust tactic, you take fewer positions but don't score goals. Ashbringer and Cerber : 1860 Munich - FC Kaiserslautern (2-1) 1860 Munich - Uerdingen (2-0) Bloodlust: 1860 Munich - FC Kaiserslautern (3-0) 1860 Munich - Uerdingen (0-0) I think the wing players are unable to open closed matches. It has become easier to beat big teams with a bloodlust tactic, but extra solutions are needed against small teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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