joaquingsegovia Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Does it happen to you that if you put for instance Cerber, fury and Shield Wall and you tick on your second team "play with first team tactics" they use a tactic that is not the first one??? I dunno why my second team only plays with shield wall and they get 0-0s all the time. By cons my under 19 are doing great with Cerber, winning everything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
910.duongtanhiep Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Hi TFF. I'm using Cerber and Fury combo. All positions play very well except CAM. He doesn't score or assist many goals. So I want to know what is his duty on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAECK Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 me and my brother continue our onlie game would you recommend using Pogba as DLP or as AMCR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmjonek Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 does stronger foot works in favour on AMC position? i mean AMCR would do better with right/left foot stronger, or it won't make any difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted March 21, 2020 Author Share Posted March 21, 2020 4 hours ago, 910.duongtanhiep said: Hi TFF. I'm using Cerber and Fury combo. All positions play very well except CAM. He doesn't score or assist many goals. So I want to know what is his duty on the pitch. Hi mate, Usually, the AMC has the lowest rating across the positions, it doesn't score and assist much but it does other import work in the tactic. 2 hours ago, MAECK said: me and my brother continue our onlie game would you recommend using Pogba as DLP or as AMCR I'd better play him as AMCR or AMCL 2 hours ago, fmjonek said: does stronger foot works in favour on AMC position? i mean AMCR would do better with right/left foot stronger, or it won't make any difference. I don't find it's very important but if you can choose then a left footed on the left and right footed on the right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAECK Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Sandro Tonali will be a good DLP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magueule Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 What do you caractérise the style cerber? Tikitaka ? Gegenpressing ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmjonek Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 2 hours ago, MAECK said: Sandro Tonali will be a good DLP one of best DLP, but have to be developed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manidaro7 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 @Totalfootballfan, the only changes to make annihilator v1 tactics to make it more offensive are: - very high defensive line; - offensive mentality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted March 21, 2020 Author Share Posted March 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, manidaro7 said: @Totalfootballfan, the only changes to make annihilator v1 tactics to make it more offensive are: - very high defensive line; - offensive mentality. Yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
antoineit Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Hi TFF , atm the best tactic is the annihilator v1 ? more than cerber ? and you tryed it on multiplayer vs real player ? like on draft ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted March 21, 2020 Author Share Posted March 21, 2020 37 minutes ago, antoineit said: Hi TFF , atm the best tactic is the annihilator v1 ? more than cerber ? and you tryed it on multiplayer vs real player ? like on draft ? Hi, Yes, I find Annihilator is slight better than Cerber. All tactics at the OP was developed to play vs AI managers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boam Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) Hi TFF. thanks for a wonderful tactic. what are the most important positions in your Annihilator tactic? Is it ST/MR/ML? I know that everyone is important. but if you could strengthen just 3 positions which ones would you choose? thx Edited March 21, 2020 by Boam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted March 21, 2020 Author Share Posted March 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, Boam said: Hi TFF. thanks for a wonderful tactic. what are the most important positions in your Annihilator tactic? Is it ST/MR/ML? I know that everyone is important. but if you could strengthen just 3 positions which ones would you choose? thx Hi, Yes, I find STC/ML/MR are the most important positions in the tactic, they score the most goals and produce the most assistances Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticSeeker Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 hey tff what do you think about mesut ozil, good player for the amcl position or bad? also 2 question about 2 positions with ml/mr, how bad is cutting inside? if you had someone like neymar and he was playing wing, would you play him MR cause he's right footed, is that how important the crossing and footing is? should you try to get pure winger players that aren't inverted? trying to better understand the optimal way to create chances and with amc, what is their primary role in the tactic, how much importance should be on their finishing/long shots, or is the dribbling/passing/pace all that matters, so they can chase the ball and create chances? ty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted March 21, 2020 Author Share Posted March 21, 2020 40 minutes ago, TacticSeeker said: hey tff what do you think about mesut ozil, good player for the amcl position or bad? Hey mate, it depends on your team if you play with Barcelona then I would not recommended him for the AMCL/AMCR positions and if you play with Norwich then I'd say he would be a very good player for the AMCL/AMCR positions 40 minutes ago, TacticSeeker said: with ml/mr, how bad is cutting inside? if you had someone like neymar and he was playing wing, would you play him MR cause he's right footed, is that how important the crossing and footing is? should you try to get pure winger players that aren't inverted? trying to better understand the optimal way to create chances I find Wingers works better than Inverted Wingers at the ML/MR positions but if you have someone like Neymar at ML position then I'd say you should not worry 40 minutes ago, TacticSeeker said: with amc, what is their primary role in the tactic, how much importance should be on their finishing/long shots, or is the dribbling/passing/pace all that matters, so they can chase the ball and create chances? The AMCL/AMCR positions usually get the 3rd places by goals scored in the tactic, 1st place - STC and the 2nd place - ML/MR positions and the AMCL/AMCR positions get 2nd place by assistances made, the 1st place - ML/MR positions so it's good if the AMCL/AMCR positions can create chances and score goals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TacticSeeker Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, MAECK said: can you post your line up and squad stats please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kolle69 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 2 hours ago, MAECK said: How were the grades and Performance of the DPL? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Scruffer23 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 @TotalfootballfanI’m managing wolves in the prem and I’m currently in the year 2023 I’m playing Fabio silva up front but don’t seem to be getting goals from do you know of a reason he matches the attributes required Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted March 22, 2020 Author Share Posted March 22, 2020 24 minutes ago, Scruffer23 said: @TotalfootballfanI’m managing wolves in the prem and I’m currently in the year 2023 I’m playing Fabio silva up front but don’t seem to be getting goals from do you know of a reason he matches the attributes required Hi mate, I find that a phrase "matches the attributes required" isn't an appropriate way to speak about the attributes If you want to learn more about the attributes then I suggest read a discussion about it that starts from this my post - https://community.sigames.com/topic/507817-fm20-tactics-by-tff/?do=findComment&comment=12319696 Also, "don't seem to be getting goals" is too vague... you need provide numbers... how many appearances did he make during the season and how many goals did he score? Let's say if you play Fabio Silva as the striker in Barcelona then highly likely he scores 2-3 times more during the season than if you play Fabio Silva as the striker with Wolves which means the better your team compared with your opponents, the more you dominate during matches, the more scoring chances your strikers gets during, the more goals he score during matches... other example, if you put Messi into Norwich city then he'll score 3-4 times less goals than he would score in Barca Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruffer23 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, Totalfootballfan said: Hi mate, I find that a phrase "matches the attributes required" isn't an appropriate way to speak about the attributes If you want to learn more about the attributes then I suggest read a discussion about it that starts from this my post - https://community.sigames.com/topic/507817-fm20-tactics-by-tff/?do=findComment&comment=12319696 Also, "don't seem to be getting goals" is too vague... you need provide numbers... how many appearances did he make during the season and how many goals did he score? Let's say if you play Fabio Silva as the striker in Barcelona then highly likely he scores 2-3 times more during the season than if you play Fabio Silva as the striker with Wolves which means the better your team compared with your opponents, the more you dominate during matches, the more scoring chances your strikers gets during, the more goals he score during matches... other example, if you put Messi into Norwich city then he'll score 3-4 times less goals than he would score in Barca He’s scored 19 in 37 games maybe I’m expecting too much it’s just I got 37 goals out Diego jota and he’s not as good as Fabio silva Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted March 22, 2020 Author Share Posted March 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, Scruffer23 said: He’s scored 19 in 37 games maybe I’m expecting too much it’s just I got 37 goals out Diego jota and he’s not as good as Fabio silva I find Diogo Jota is much better striker for Annihilator tactic or Cerber tactic than Fabio silva Fabio silva is too slow for EPL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted March 22, 2020 Author Share Posted March 22, 2020 13 minutes ago, Scruffer23 said: He’s scored 19 in 37 games maybe I’m expecting too much it’s just I got 37 goals out Diego jota and he’s not as good as Fabio silva Also, I would not suggested comparing stats in different competitions because it's very inaccurate and misleading, for example, it makes sense comparing their stats in the league Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruffer23 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Totalfootballfan said: I find Diogo Jota is much better striker for Annihilator tactic or Cerber tactic than Fabio silva Fabio silva is too slow for EPL He’s currently at 15 for acceleration I’m guessing he needs to be quicker ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted March 22, 2020 Author Share Posted March 22, 2020 Just now, Scruffer23 said: He’s currently at 15 for acceleration I’m guessing he needs to be quicker ?? For EPL I would start looking from (16) Acceleration, (15) Agility, (15) Pace, (15) Dribbling but for Wolves Fabio Silva might be a very good striker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wicksyFM Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Is their a preffered foot for the two AMs. Left footed on the left side - right footed on right side etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted March 22, 2020 Author Share Posted March 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, wicksyFM said: Is their a preffered foot for the two AMs. Left footed on the left side - right footed on right side etc I don't find that "preferred foot" is important for the AMCL/AMCR positions but if you can choose I suggest using a left footed player on the left side and a right footed player on the right side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVP32 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Does anyone by any chance have player stats over a whole season for Annihilator? Looks interesting because it looks like CAMs actually play instead of just being on the field and doing nothing like they've been doing for the past 2 editions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted March 22, 2020 Author Share Posted March 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, RVP32 said: Does anyone by any chance have player stats over a whole season for Annihilator? Looks interesting because it looks like CAMs actually play instead of just being on the field and doing nothing like they've been doing for the past 2 editions. Hi, Here's stats from my sim test with Chelsea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAECK Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Martial 43 goals in 29 matches Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted March 22, 2020 Author Share Posted March 22, 2020 Guys, I've made an interesting test If someone of you are interested how important the Morale and Conditions then check the results below In 1st test I used Fighter V1 tactic with Liverpool and "froze" the Morale and Conditions of all players at 100% only for my team (Liverpool) and I got the following results: In 2nd test I used the same tactic (Fighter V1) with Liverpool but this time I "froze" the Morale and Conditions of players for all teams in the league not only for my team (Liverpool) and I got the following result: If think it's obvious that higher Morale and Conditions gives you a very solid advantage 107 pts vs 95 pts +119 G.D. vs +90 G.D. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAECK Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 so Fighter V1 is better than annihilator v1 or Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted March 22, 2020 Author Share Posted March 22, 2020 1 minute ago, MAECK said: so Fighter V1 is better than annihilator v1 or No I just used it for the tests... it wasn't important what tactic was used, can be any Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roggiotis Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 (edited) Olympiacos , first season , no transfers Edited March 22, 2020 by roggiotis 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted March 22, 2020 Author Share Posted March 22, 2020 2 hours ago, Totalfootballfan said: Guys, I've made an interesting test If someone of you are interested how important the Morale and Conditions then check the results below In 1st test I used Annihilator V1 tactic with Bournemouth(1st season, predicted 15th) and "froze" the Morale and Conditions of all players at 100% only for my team (Bournemouth) and I got the following results: In 2nd test I used the same tactic (Annihilator V1) with Bournemouth(1st season, predicted 15th) but this time I "froze" the Morale and Conditions of players for all teams in the league not only for my team (Bournemouth) and I got the following result: If think it's obvious that higher Morale and Conditions gives you a very solid advantage 94 pts vs 79 pts +66 G.D. vs +43 G.D. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzahy Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Hey tff, where will you play nicolas pepe from arsenal? thanks mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted March 22, 2020 Author Share Posted March 22, 2020 11 minutes ago, tzahy said: Hey tff, where will you play nicolas pepe from arsenal? thanks mate Hey mate, I find he'll do well only at the ML position in Annihilator tactic or Cerber tactic but he hasn't got any rating for ML position and it might take few seasons for him to get at least "Accomplished" for the ML position so I wouldn't recommend him 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedrito Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 3rd season in Watford, used Annihilator tatic, looks amazing! Good job TFF! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
910.duongtanhiep Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Hi TFF. Is "Runs with ball down left / right" a positive trait for left / right midfielders in Cerber? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAECK Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 is that so you can write what any PPM will be good for each role? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAECK Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 (edited) Edited March 23, 2020 by MAECK 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted March 23, 2020 Author Share Posted March 23, 2020 5 hours ago, 910.duongtanhiep said: Hi TFF. Is "Runs with ball down left / right" a positive trait for left / right midfielders in Cerber? Hi, I find those PPMs won't make any difference so I would not bother with training them 5 hours ago, MAECK said: is that so you can write what any PPM will be good for each role? Mate, I don't see there are any "gamebreaking" PPMs Bump 15 hours ago, Totalfootballfan said: Guys, I've made an interesting test If someone of you are interested how important the Morale and Conditions then check the results below In 1st test I used Fighter V1 tactic with Liverpool and "froze" the Morale and Conditions of all players at 100% only for my team (Liverpool) and I got the following results: In 2nd test I used the same tactic (Fighter V1) with Liverpool but this time I "froze" the Morale and Conditions of players for all teams in the league not only for my team (Liverpool) and I got the following result: If think it's obvious that higher Morale and Conditions gives you a very solid advantage 107 pts vs 95 pts +119 G.D. vs +90 G.D. 13 hours ago, Totalfootballfan said: In 1st test I used Annihilator V1 tactic with Bournemouth(1st season, predicted 15th) and "froze" the Morale and Conditions of all players at 100% only for my team (Bournemouth) and I got the following results: In 2nd test I used the same tactic (Annihilator V1) with Bournemouth(1st season, predicted 15th) but this time I "froze" the Morale and Conditions of players for all teams in the league not only for my team (Bournemouth) and I got the following result: If think it's obvious that higher Morale and Conditions gives you a very solid advantage 94 pts vs 79 pts +66 G.D. vs +43 G.D. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magueule Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 (edited) Its my second season with this tactic. the first season : no problem. but the second season, I concede a lot of goal. A lot of goal conceded in counter and deep goal I play with Cerber Tactic Edited March 23, 2020 by Magueule Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tydomo Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 @Totalfootballfan whats better to use right now for a new save with stoke city? Fighter or Annihilator? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted March 23, 2020 Author Share Posted March 23, 2020 24 minutes ago, Tydomo said: @Totalfootballfan whats better to use right now for a new save with stoke city? Fighter or Annihilator? If it has players for Annihilator then use Annihilator because Annihilator is more effective tactic then Fighter If it doesn't has players for Annihilator then use Fighter and until you get players for Annihilator Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tydomo Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 @Totalfootballfan cheers mate will let you know how I get on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tydomo Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 @Totalfootballfan is there filters for Annilihator? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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