Totalfootballfan Posted March 28, 2020 Author Share Posted March 28, 2020 11 minutes ago, StussyOriginal said: Is it just me or with Anihaltor the ST doesn't score much? Really struggling to find a tactic where strikers flourish opposed to most goals from wingers and AM's Hi, For example, here's stats from my sim test with Chelsea using Annihilator tactic, as you can see in the screenshot below the striker is the top scorer across the positions and I see similar stat after every test with different teams: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewG Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 17 minutes ago, StussyOriginal said: Is it just me or with Anihaltor the ST doesn't score much? Really struggling to find a tactic where strikers flourish opposed to most goals from wingers and AM's I'm getting a goal a game average with Alfredo Morelos in my Rangers save. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronRedDevil Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 @TotalfootballfanThanks for the detailed reply. My comment on away performance obviously only apply to Man Utd in this save - pointing out some consistent results. Big issue was yellow/red cards; could be factor of player quality (dirtiness, aggression and tackling ability). Going to try a version with hard tackling removed and change mentality. Home form outstanding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmjonek Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 huge thank you TFF, finally in my 3rd season managed to win PL, CL final still to be played 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted March 28, 2020 Author Share Posted March 28, 2020 1 minute ago, AaronRedDevil said: Going to try a version with hard tackling removed and change mentality. I'd say you can't do much to prevent a straight red card because they just randomly happens to time from time and you said correctly that such attribute as "Dirtiness" has great impact on it. But you can prevent a red card that happens due to the 2nd yellow card and to prevent it you need to remove "Hard Tackles" PI from a player if you see he's booked during a match Also, I don't recommend playing without "Hard Tackles", of course, you'll be getting less yellow cards per match but your results also decrease, at least, that happens in my tests... getting extra yellow cards per match is a price for better results Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROBELINKpt Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 What tactic have you guys been using? im predicted mid table Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted March 28, 2020 Author Share Posted March 28, 2020 11 minutes ago, ROBELINKpt said: What tactic have you guys been using? im predicted mid table Hi, No matter what team you manage, I suggest choosing from 2 tactics: Annihilator V1 or Fighter V1 Use Annihilator V1 if you can fit your team into this tactic(I find it's the most effective tactic at the moment) and if you can't fit your team into it then use Fighter V1(you can fit any team into it) until you build your team for Annihilator tactic Also, during matches I suggest using support tactics such as Shield Wall tactic( to boost your defense) and Overload version( to boost your attack) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilyes92300 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 hello TFF u have a 343 ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted March 28, 2020 Author Share Posted March 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, ilyes92300 said: hello TFF u have a 343 ? Hi, 343 has been working poorly for me in FM20 so I don't see a point in sharing it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dersturmer Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 TFF Hey. Did you try 3-4-3 with MR and ML (no wing back left and wing back right)? In my save Jorge Sampaoli has good results with Bayern with this formation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andre62 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 @Dersturmer do you made a tweak of tff tactic and have a 3-4-3 formation? and if you do a tweak 3-4-3 can you share? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted March 29, 2020 Author Share Posted March 29, 2020 39 minutes ago, Dersturmer said: TFF Hey. Did you try 3-4-3 with MR and ML (no wing back left and wing back right)? In my save Jorge Sampaoli has good results with Bayern with this formation. Hey, Yes, I've tried 3-4-3 with MR and ML and for me it worked very poorly, the defense was very weak and the attack wasn't good enough to compensate the very weak defense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delaneytomlinson Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 13 hours ago, serek said: I'm almost at 100 already. I don't remember which tactis I was using exactly (I started this save months ago), but atm I'm using Annihilator. Everything else is just your skills as a manager and some luck. that's crazy man so you've won the quadruple 2-3 seasons in a row then? or is the unbeaten streak just in the league? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardie37 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 How do you guys decide what yoing players will develop good attributes that match the filters for your tactics? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delaneytomlinson Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 13 hours ago, StussyOriginal said: Is it just me or with Anihaltor the ST doesn't score much? Really struggling to find a tactic where strikers flourish opposed to most goals from wingers and AM's Use Raptor V4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmjonek Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Wardie37 said: How do you guys decide what yoing players will develop good attributes that match the filters for your tactics? obviously if those attributes are higher when new gen appears, the better they will be later. second thing is to start train them for the role asap, with focus on attributes they lack most. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBruce20 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 Hi TFF, Thank you for share your tactics, I am using your ANNIHILATOR V1 tactic for Dortmund, three seasons I won two Champions League and three Bundesliga. Only one problem I am facing all along these three seasons: My AMCL and AMCR's performance not stable or could not achieve what I expect. I had tried Kai Harvertz and Diogo Jota, most of the games they rate 6.5-7.0, Sergio Gomez and Rues (Before retired) seems better because I set them to take the corners so they have many assistants. I couldn't get B. Silva and Dybala, Would you please suggest which player I could sign? BTW, is Diogo Jota or Lewis Cook or Foden suitable for this position? Thanks JBruce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmjonek Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, JBruce20 said: Hi TFF, Thank you for share your tactics, I am using your ANNIHILATOR V1 tactic for Dortmund, three seasons I won two Champions League and three Bundesliga. Only one problem I am facing all along these three seasons: My AMCL and AMCR's performance not stable or could not achieve what I expect. I had tried Kai Harvertz and Diogo Jota, most of the games they rate 6.5-7.0, Sergio Gomez and Rues (Before retired) seems better because I set them to take the corners so they have many assistants. I couldn't get B. Silva and Dybala, Would you please suggest which player I could sign? BTW, is Diogo Jota or Lewis Cook or Foden suitable for this position? Thanks JBruce Foden, Felix, Almada, Olmo they all should do well imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kolle69 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 Any Suggestions for DPL... not costing more than 50mil... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llainen Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 On 26/03/2020 at 21:47, delaneytomlinson said: A little report on my progress using Raptor V4 with Inter Milan, eight seasons completed with a very good squad, still missing that Mbappe class of player to win multiple consecutive CL titles and breaking other records such as becoming invincible in the league = not losing once. 2019-2020 season: - Serie A Champions - 31 wins, 5 draws, 2 loses, 89 goals scored 27 conceded, 62+ goal difference. 2020-2021 season - 2nd place in the league - 24 wins, 10 draws, 4 loses, 89 goals scored, 30 conceded, 59+ goal difference 2021-2022 season - Serie A Champions 32 wins, 3 draws, 3 loses, 108 goals scored, 23 conceded, 85+ goal difference 2022-2023 season - Serie A Champions 34 wins, 2 draws, 2 loses, 122 goals scored, 18 conceded, 104+ goal difference 2023-2024 season - Serie A Champions 34 wins, 3 draws, 1 loss, 101 goals scored, 24 conceded, 77+ goal difference. 2024-2025 season - Serie A Champions 35 wins, 1 draw, 2 loses, 111 goals scored, 17 conceded, 94+ goal difference 2025-2026 season - Serie A Champions 32 wins, 4 draws, 2 loses, 117 goals scored , 21 conceded, 96+ goal difference 2026-2027 ( my best ever season ) - Quadruple winners, Super Cup, Italian Cup, League & Champions League winners 35 wins, 2 draws, 1 loss, 117 goals scored 16 conceded, 101+ goal difference Link?:) Summary: It took me 8 seasons to achieve 95% of what I wanted to achieve which was the quadruple, the only thing I want to achieve now is an invincible season (without losing for those who don't know what invincible means. I reached 5 CL finals in 6 years winning two of them, the ones that I lost were very very unlucky, 2 final loses were on penalties to Arsenal & Liverpool. I reached #1 in the world as the most reputable team in the world and got offered the National team job with Italy, I'm currently in the Semi-Finals of the Nations League vs England. My profile stats: 448 games played, 359 wins, 44 draws and 45 loses. 1,221 goals scored, 302 goals conceded, 919+ goal difference, win percentage is 80% Note: I don't micro-manage my team, meaning when the games are played I do my instructions then I leave the game to play by itself while I watch TV, maybe if I micro-managed my team I wouldn't lose once, but I don't like to look at the screen 24-7 when I'm playing if that makes sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delaneytomlinson Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, Llainen said: why did you quote my post but not say anything? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delaneytomlinson Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 9 minutes ago, Kolle69 said: Any Suggestions for DPL... not costing more than 50mil... Tonali Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madhatter75 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, delaneytomlinson said: Use Raptor V4 Where is the download link for Raptor 4 mate? It's probably me but I can't find it. **ignore this post. Just found the download** Edited March 29, 2020 by madhatter75 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBruce20 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 1 hour ago, fmjonek said: Foden, Felix, Almada, Olmo they all should do well imo Thanks Bro, may I know how many goals and assists your AMCL/AMCR could get in a season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAECK Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bcfclee27 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 TFF - Using Cerber V3 and like I said before great tactic for me. One criticism and I think this has come up before but may well be out your hands... Indirect free kicks - I seem to concede them by the bucket full. Just lost an important game (2nd v 3rd) 3-2 and all 3 of their goals were indirect free kicks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cerfu Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 i used annihilator v1, cerber v3 and fighter v1. and i can say that i get more efficiency from fighter v1 than others. when i use fighter v1 i comfortably lean back and watching how i win this game. but when i use annihilator v1 or cerber v3 okay i usually win the game but the games a little bit stressful. thank you TFF for all tactics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewG Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 (edited) What can I say TFF? 1st season League and Cup double and Europa League Quarter Final was impressive. But 2nd season Quadruple? Winning the Champions League with Rangers with most of the original squad is incredible. The run to the final was more than a little exciting, getting out of a group with Juve and Real, twice winning on away goals as well. Oh and Ojo scoring in the final against Liverpool, they should have put a clause in his loan deal I will be sticking with Cerber for a while yet I think. I can recommend Pedro Chirivella as an excellent budget DLP for either CM or DM. One of the best Bosman signings I ever made. Thank you for all your work over the years. Edited March 29, 2020 by StewG 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vemlos Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 Hi TFF. I just want to sign in an say that your Annihilator tactic works terrific with inverted wingbacks as well! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruffer23 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 Need thoughts on this striker @Totalfootballfan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
patorucito7 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 Hi TFF, which tactic is better Cerber or Fighter because You keep mentioning Annihilation or Fighet? What about Cerber then. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted March 29, 2020 Author Share Posted March 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Scruffer23 said: Need thoughts on this striker @Totalfootballfan I'd say for such teams as Everton or Southampton he is an amazing striker but for such teams as Barca, Liverpool and Man City he is just OK 1 hour ago, patorucito7 said: Hi TFF, which tactic is better Cerber or Fighter because You keep mentioning Annihilation or Fighet? What about Cerber then. Thanks. Hi, I find Annihilator is better than Cerber Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAECK Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llainen Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 11 hours ago, delaneytomlinson said: why did you quote my post but not say anything? what? i asked for link to the tactic, dont know what happened :S Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicko1878 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 Anyone have any idea why Sterling performs so badly for me at AMR? I have Daniel Maldini as my other AMR and he out performs Sterling all the time, Sterling always ends up with a bad rating and barely contributes to goals or assists Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl0sAlbert0 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 Using Fighter v1 with Everton. In my first season we somehow won the league. Season Two, and even though we have had a few injuries, I am finding the tactic is no longer working as well as it did. Looking at other tactics on here, Annihilator looks good, but tricky to implement at this time as the players I have bought are all for the Fighter v1 tactic. Any ideas on how best to freshen tactics up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted March 30, 2020 Author Share Posted March 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, Carl0sAlbert0 said: Using Fighter v1 with Everton. In my first season we somehow won the league. Season Two, and even though we have had a few injuries, I am finding the tactic is no longer working as well as it did. Looking at other tactics on here, Annihilator looks good, but tricky to implement at this time as the players I have bought are all for the Fighter v1 tactic. Any ideas on how best to freshen tactics up? Fighter V1 is less effective than Annihilator V1 and it means that you always need a better team with Fighter V1 to achieve the same results as with Annihilator I've tried Fighter V1 with many different teams in EPL and I can say that I had solid chances to win the league with such teams as Man Utd, Arsenal, Tottenham and Chelsea but it wasn't guaranty because Man City or Liverpool might have a very good season when they get about 100+ pts I find that you start dominate(almost guaranty win the title) EPL with Fighter V1 only when you reach similar average CA as Liverpool and Man City For example, here are the CA of Liverpool, Man City and Everton As it can be seen from the screenshots above: - the average CA of the best 11 Liverpool player is 166CA ( the most important positions - attackers are 175CA) - the average CA of the best 11 Man City player is 169CA ( the most important positions - attackers are 178CA) - the average CA of the best 11 Everton player is 142CA ( the most important positions - attackers are 144CA) The difference is huge but even with such huge difference I sometimes win the title with Everton using Fighter V1 in the 1st season but to do that I need a perfect season for my team and Livepool and Man City must have a very poor season As I said with Fighter V1 I start guaranty win the title only when I reach the average CA of Liverpool and Man City 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl0sAlbert0 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 Brilliant, thank you. Yeah, I think I got lucky last season - some results were incredible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted March 30, 2020 Author Share Posted March 30, 2020 16 minutes ago, Carl0sAlbert0 said: Brilliant, thank you. Yeah, I think I got lucky last season - some results were incredible. Here's how it works A sim test with Leicester, the 1st season, predicted 7th, the default team - no transfers The Morale and Conditions were frozen at 100% for all the teams in the league Annihilator V1 - tactic Fighter V1 - tactic As it can be seen from the results above both tactics offer solid overachieving level above the media prediction but Annihilator V1 is more effective than Fighter V1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
catoV Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 I took over Atlético before 2nd season, and I ended up with 99 points, 120 goals scored/22 conceded with Annihilator V1. Didn't win the league because Barcelona got 104 points, but I'm still happy with the result 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandChasm Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 @Totalfootballfan Please i have a question, i understand you make tactics with the best balance for more or less all kinds of teams to overachieve. However, have you ever made a tactic that will do even better but only for top teams because of their better players? Thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl0sAlbert0 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 @Totalfootballfan Which updates does Annihilation work with? Will it work with the original ME or is it best one of the latest update? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted March 30, 2020 Author Share Posted March 30, 2020 46 minutes ago, GrandChasm said: @Totalfootballfan Please i have a question, i understand you make tactics with the best balance for more or less all kinds of teams to overachieve. However, have you ever made a tactic that will do even better but only for top teams because of their better players? Thank you I'd say that when I create a tactic I always prioritize how it works when you are the strongest team in the league because any tactic that works the best with strongest teams in the league, also, works at least "very good" when you use it with the weakest teams in the league and that means you always will be overachieving and improving your team season by season when eventually you'll become the strongest team in the league. All my experience playing FM tells me that the best tactic for the strongest team in the league is also the best or at least very good for the weakest teams in the league so I don't see point in creating tactics for the weakest teams in the league because even with an average tactic after few season it's possible to make a good team from the weakest team in any league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted March 30, 2020 Author Share Posted March 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, Carl0sAlbert0 said: @Totalfootballfan Which updates does Annihilation work with? Will it work with the original ME or is it best one of the latest update? Annihilator was developed to work with 20.2.4 / 20.3.0 / 20.4.0 patches Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmjonek Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 On 29/03/2020 at 12:04, JBruce20 said: Thanks Bro, may I know how many goals and assists your AMCL/AMCR could get in a season? i've been heavy rotating as i did't had players "made" for this position plus my main assist players are wingers. but my 2 players playing on this possition were Teilemans: 9 goals, 7 assists and Alena: 5 goals, 8 assists this season i play Almada and Felix as main duo. so far Almada 2 goals in 2 games, Felix 1 goal in 2 games. no assists so far but will come. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonmeds Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 Best lineup for Atletico Madrid with Annihlator? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
domel Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 (edited) Hey TFF you have an idea for a better game for the trip? Edited March 30, 2020 by domel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
audere_est_facere Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 Do you have any training routines for pre season to get the players knowledge of the tactic ready for the season start? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandChasm Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 3 hours ago, Totalfootballfan said: I'd say that when I create a tactic I always prioritize how it works when you are the strongest team in the league because any tactic that works the best with strongest teams in the league, also, works at least "very good" when you use it with the weakest teams in the league and that means you always will be overachieving and improving your team season by season when eventually you'll become the strongest team in the league. All my experience playing FM tells me that the best tactic for the strongest team in the league is also the best or at least very good for the weakest teams in the league so I don't see point in creating tactics for the weakest teams in the league because even with an average tactic after few season it's possible to make a good team from the weakest team in any league. Ah I see, thanks for the reply Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delaneytomlinson Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 19 hours ago, Llainen said: what? i asked for link to the tactic, dont know what happened :S Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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