delaneytomlinson Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 4 hours ago, Wiwyum said: Going to give this a go, as I'm having mixed results with Cerber. Thanks for highlighting the tactics success. EDIT: Did you do any other tweaking when playing home/away or against certain opposition? no tweaking when playing home or away, just changing the mentality between attacking, positive and balanced. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiwyum Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Just now, delaneytomlinson said: no tweaking when playing home or away, just changing the mentality between attacking, positive and balanced. Thank you so much for clarifying. I have adopted this tactic based on your suggestion and so far it's been excellent. Thank you so much! and of course TFF for creating it in the first place. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwccfc1987 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 12 hours ago, Wiwyum said: This is my experience also. Precisely why I'm here to search for tweaks. Seems like you found one! Quarter of the way through the season and while objectively performance is good it’s a bit frustrating how the games pan out. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDevil28 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 what is the best way to rotate the squad in order not to affect the player and the team happiness? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas91 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, RedDevil28 said: what is the best way to rotate the squad in order not to affect the player and the team happiness? have to two 11 player rotations and rotate them each game! 1 game 1st eleven next game 2nd elven , 3rd game 1st eleven and so on ! Edited April 10, 2020 by Jonas91 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ygooh7 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 (edited) hey TFF, whats the best line up for the Newcastle using cerber v4? Edited April 10, 2020 by ygooh7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDevil28 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Jonas91 said: have to two 11 player rotations and rotate them each game! 1 game 1st eleven next game 2nd elven , 3rd game 1st eleven and so on ! thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwccfc1987 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Results now starting to get even worse despite increased familiarity. Giving the ball away constantly, conceding screamers, tapping sitters straight to the keeper, getting thrashed by mid table junk, I've had enough. So fed up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwccfc1987 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, Victorhugo4222 said: I have found with all tactics, not just TFF'S, is that you need to give tactics a few seasons. I have yet to find a tactic thaTt is just plug and play which you could do in previous versions of FM. I still find Annilihator works best for me. Which is fair enough, but I had around 2-3 seasons of Knap tactics and a similar number with TFF. Don't mean to complain but it's just annoying seeing the same stuff repeat itself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amnesia92 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, Victorhugo4222 said: I have found with all tactics, not just TFF'S, is that you need to give tactics a few seasons. I have yet to find a tactic thaTt is just plug and play which you could do in previous versions of FM. I still find Annilihator works best for me. Agree, I change tactic every season now. I used 'Cerber V4' for two seasons in a row but found that it was becoming 'stale' towards the latter half of the second season. I am now using 'Annilhator V1' and destroying everything in my way. Use the touchline shouts as often as possible they make a huge difference, also team talks are equally important. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwccfc1987 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Amnesia92 said: Agree, I change tactic every season now. I used 'Cerber V4' for two seasons in a row but found that it was becoming 'stale' towards the latter half of the second season. I am now using 'Annilhator V1' and destroying everything in my way. Use the touchline shouts as often as possible they make a huge difference, also team talks are equally important. I do all that but keep losing against crap teams at home in the same way. Team has improved year on year but the same stuff keeps happening and I'm just fed up of it. As I speak just lost at home to a side in the relegation zone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwccfc1987 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Case in point 60% possession against another bottom 3 side, lose 2-0 thanks to a dude just running past everyone from my own set piece. Opposition keeper does wonder saves, my guys pull off incredible misses all over the place. It's like this nearly every game now. Throwing computer out the window Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brutos Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 23 hours ago, jwccfc1987 said: Games with Cerber and its close cousin Fighter have tended to follow one of a few patterns 1. Scoring bucketloads in quick time 2. Bossing the stats but game ends 1-0/0-0/0-1 3. Getting destroyed in quick time If I lose a man it's a very difficult system to patch together as mahoosive space is conceded somewhere. Most commonly I'm conceding from just giving the ball away, a lump down the pitch or a screamer from 20-30 yards. Yep that's what I found also so decided to take a break from the game as I was getting too frustrated. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwccfc1987 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 17 minutes ago, Brutos said: Yep that's what I found also so decided to take a break from the game as I was getting too frustrated. Probably should as well tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBruce20 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 5 hours ago, jwccfc1987 said: Case in point 60% possession against another bottom 3 side, lose 2-0 thanks to a dude just running past everyone from my own set piece. Opposition keeper does wonder saves, my guys pull off incredible misses all over the place. It's like this nearly every game now. Throwing computer out the window hi Bro, how is your dressing room atmosphere? I found these tactics relies very much on the squard morale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoodu14 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Any tips to improve the shadow striker with Cerver V4 ? Seems to be the only weakness in my team as he does not score or assist much and get average ratings.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwccfc1987 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 6 hours ago, JBruce20 said: hi Bro, how is your dressing room atmosphere? I found these tactics relies very much on the squard morale. It’s nearly perfect, also best coaching in the league and facilities upgraded to max. But regardless of the tactics used (and sticking with them for at least a season or two) I concede and score goals in the same way as I did in League 1. Most annoying is players hanging around on the box, getting tackled then it’s hoofed over the top for 0-1. I will say again that objectively performances have been very good with Knap/TFF but the match experience is unenjoyable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithy20 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 10 minutes ago, jwccfc1987 said: It’s nearly perfect, also best coaching in the league and facilities upgraded to max. But regardless of the tactics used (and sticking with them for at least a season or two) I concede and score goals in the same way as I did in League 1. Most annoying is players hanging around on the box, getting tackled then it’s hoofed over the top for 0-1. I will say again that objectively performances have been very good with Knap/TFF but the match experience is unenjoyable Multiple times i have been tempted to go back to FM18, i've found some of my own tactics work on 20 and i've had success and also had success with other peoples. But i think that plug and play era of tactics is gone. I appreciate the work TFF and Knap do, but i tend to think there is an overkill with the amount of tactics that we see uploaded this year and last, Knap in particular puts out a ridiculous amount. He must have about a dozen 442's alone. Again i appreciate them both and they probably do create the best tactics overall. But i do remember the days, you'd find a tactic and that would be it, it would be your career tactic on multiple saves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwccfc1987 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 30 minutes ago, smithy20 said: Multiple times i have been tempted to go back to FM18, i've found some of my own tactics work on 20 and i've had success and also had success with other peoples. But i think that plug and play era of tactics is gone. I appreciate the work TFF and Knap do, but i tend to think there is an overkill with the amount of tactics that we see uploaded this year and last, Knap in particular puts out a ridiculous amount. He must have about a dozen 442's alone. Again i appreciate them both and they probably do create the best tactics overall. But i do remember the days, you'd find a tactic and that would be it, it would be your career tactic on multiple saves. Yeah even in FM19 the TFF tactics were enough to use for seasons on end. I just found it a bit ridiculous to always be turned over by weaker sides in the same way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anubi_ita Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Hi! The tactic Raptor V4 still work well? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor76 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 1 hour ago, anubi_ita said: Hi! The tactic Raptor V4 still work well? For me yes. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewG Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 End of season three with Rangers and Scotland. No Champions League win this year, but a Quadruple and Record Wins, Points and Goals in a league season. Cerber V4 continues to work wonders. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwccfc1987 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Spanked 3-1 by a team that lost 5 in a row before, all from set pieces Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amnesia92 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 3rd season with real Madrid using 'Annilhator V1' no tweaks, just plug and play Latest patch & only commentary (yeah I'm ol skool) 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwccfc1987 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Needed 4 points to secure 3rd place. In its infinite wisdom the game puts 3 games in a week to finish the season including away at Arsenal and United. Of course, it decides to take out my keeper for just a week with an 'innocuous injury' so the reserve has to come in. Scrape the first game so a point needed. Go 2-1 up at Arsenal with 5 minutes left, of course concede from a punt down the pitch and to crown it off, the reserve keeper drops a free kick in the last seconds to lose the game. Players now tired, so off to United to miss a flurry of sitters before going behind. Miss a penalty and then 3 times in a row the ball sails over a defenders head to allow a 4-0 loss. Finish 4th by a point. I'm sorry, I'm done. That's a f***ing joke. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Sky Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Both Cerber V4 and Annihilator V1 work really well with my Leicester team. However you will find Cerber will be more stable than Annihilator. You can score a lot of goals with Annihilator (more than Cerber) but a the same time you could conceded some goals (more than Cerber) as well. Keep in mind, it took around 10-15 games until the tactic become fluid to your team and you can see the great result after that. Personally I like Annihilator more than Cerber as my team can score more goals. You just need to make sure you have great defence line up for your team to avoid conceding goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwin89god Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 hello I've tweaked tff's cerber v4 tactic, i found it more stable, now the players are in the same position of the annihilator v11 but with different roles for some players, if you want give a try Spartans v1.fmf 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
catoV Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 (edited) Won the league again with Atletico, but its not easy. I've to get like 100 points to win. Still using Annihilator and loving it. Haaland is still a beast with over 50 goals for 3rd season in a row (all competitions). 41 goals in 32 league games, 7.99 average rating. Edited April 11, 2020 by catoV 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetega Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 hello @Totalfootballfanany chance we can get a fomation with 2 strikers this year? l love your work, Thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amnesia92 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Annilhator V1 is simply incredible Better than Cerber V4 in my opinion. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amnesia92 Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 4 hours ago, iwin89god said: hello I've tweaked tff's cerber v4 tactic, i found it more stable, now the players are in the same position of the annihilator v11 but with different roles for some players, if you want give a try Spartans v1.fmf 46.13 kB · 13 downloads What results you had with this mate? Any feedback Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Man Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 5 hours ago, D-Sky said: Both Cerber V4 and Annihilator V1 work really well with my Leicester team. However you will find Cerber will be more stable than Annihilator. You can score a lot of goals with Annihilator (more than Cerber) but a the same time you could conceded some goals (more than Cerber) as well. Keep in mind, it took around 10-15 games until the tactic become fluid to your team and you can see the great result after that. Personally I like Annihilator more than Cerber as my team can score more goals. You just need to make sure you have great defence line up for your team to avoid conceding goals. I can't agree more. Cerber helps with it's stable defence to overachieve when you start league, which results in AI starting to play more cautious against you. When you are favourite, Cerber lacks with creating chances if you compare with Annihilator. Annihilator somehow works better with breaking opposition defence even if they play defensive as a unit, whereas Cerber usually try to exploit with set-pieces mostly. Cerber's overload is helping in these cases, but still Annihilator is slightly more effective offence-wise and also Annihilator has it's own overload tactic too anyway. Annihilator tactic set brings me more success if I am top or sub-top team in my league. But it may back-fire when you are underdog or a newly promoted team to a higher tier that season, you might concede lot and have a unstable defence even if you have good defenders in your tier. If I'm an average or poor team, I try to use Cerber in the first half of the season and latter stages I try to switch to Annihilator. This way works better for me. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwin89god Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Amnesia92 said: What results you had with this mate? Any feedback i'm in 2028/2029 with blyth spartans, last season 2027/2028 tweak the tactic after a defeat against Liverpool 29th october, after that didn't lose any match in premier and won it with 101 points (with 3 or 4 games draw leaving to the assistant with second line formation) only 16 goals conceded, won the fa cup, lost against chelsea in the semi-finals champions league (unlucky match) 3-1 away and won 1-0 home, in carabao out with penalties, the most good thing are the clean sheet with this formation, the opponent finish with zero shot on target very often.. the team is strong but with a medium age of only 22,5 y.o. so i think is a very good achievement Is quite important that the 2 AMC had good shooting from distance, but the player that score more is the forward, 48 matches 48 goals for me, then the 2 wingers and the AMC, for the other things is the same as TFF says in his tactic post ps: sorry for my poor english and THANKS to @Totalfootballfan for his awesome tactic Edited April 12, 2020 by iwin89god 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Bickle Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 TFF Tactics: 40 shots. 0 or 1 goals, unless you play with Real Madrid or Barcelona. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl0sAlbert0 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 @Totalfootballfan I have noticed using Fighter v1, that my striker struggles to score. My CM DLP and SS - Andre Gomes and Dani Olmo - both got over 20 goals each in season 2, but my strikers (first Kean then Halaand after I sold Kean) are really struggling. Any ideas? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo1983 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 (edited) 44 goals in 48 games scoring goals seems fine to me Edited April 12, 2020 by pablo1983 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delaneytomlinson Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 16 hours ago, thetega said: hello @Totalfootballfanany chance we can get a fomation with 2 strikers this year? l love your work, Thank you Raptor V4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alevr77 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 3 hours ago, delaneytomlinson said: Raptor V4 Where I find it? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gojke Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 @Totalfootballfan Hey mate, I have two questions... How could I improve my defense with Cerber V4? I'm managing AC Milan and my defense is not great. Do you have any suggestions for next transfer window? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex9G Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 what tactic best for NATIONAL TEAM? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpy11 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Hi @Totalfootballfan I’ve been a big fan of your tactics for a few seasons now. I just want to double check something? is this correct? ML / AML - left footed MR / AMR - right footed ive read this whole post but I’ve seen conflicting team sheets, some with -eg, Pepe as ML and some with Pepe as MR? can you clarify this for me one last time please? also, I notice on your arsenal save you play lacazette over aubameyang. What’s your reasoning for this? thanks mate!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafał Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Hey @Totalfootballfan Your tactics are fantastic. I've played your tactics for years. Creber V4 is fantastic. I play Notts Co in Sky Bet League 2 an won Carabao Cup !!!! Thank you with all my heart sorry for my English 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstonGooner Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 (edited) @Totalfootballfan Just like to say a big thank you for your awesome work you've put into the tactics in this edition of FM. Managed some cool achievements with most of your tactics right from versions 1. Latest season (2nd season with Juve) using Fighter V2 & Shield Wall V1 (occasionally) Edited April 12, 2020 by AstonGooner 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delaneytomlinson Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 11 hours ago, alevr77 said: Where I find it? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted April 13, 2020 Author Share Posted April 13, 2020 8 hours ago, Sharpy11 said: I just want to double check something? is this correct? ML / AML - left footed MR / AMR - right footed Hi mate, That's correct 8 hours ago, Sharpy11 said: ive read this whole post but I’ve seen conflicting team sheets, some with -eg, Pepe as ML and some with Pepe as MR? can you clarify this for me one last time please? If you are talking about my sim tests then I produce them using the default teams(no transfers) and not every team has left footed wingers so I have to choose from available players 9 hours ago, Sharpy11 said: also, I notice on your arsenal save you play lacazette over aubameyang. What’s your reasoning for this? I preferred Lacazette over Aubameyang because Lacazette has higher Dribbling, Technique and Decisions attributes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delaneytomlinson Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Has anyone on this thread gone the whole season unbeaten yet? like the whole season not just in the league, would be interesting to see the tactics used for it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpy11 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Thanks so much for the reply @Totalfootballfan 👍 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex9G Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 @Totalfootballfan what the best tactic for under-dog national team?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewG Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 14 minutes ago, Alex9G said: @Totalfootballfan what the best tactic for under-dog national team?? I've taken Scotland to Semi Finals using Cerber v4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewG Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, delaneytomlinson said: Has anyone on this thread gone the whole season unbeaten yet? like the whole season not just in the league, would be interesting to see the tactics used for it Not yet! Last season one defeat in the league and one in Europe. But I have improved the squad again. Got Troy Parrott and Sergio Aguero. So maybe this season! 😅 Edited April 13, 2020 by StewG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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