Totalfootballfan Posted February 24, 2020 Author Share Posted February 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, fmjonek said: i don't mean drastic changes or improvement, obviously you picked most efficient roles. i mean changes like SS to AP. Changing SS(A) to AP(A) will have a huge impact, these roles have very different behavior Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmjonek Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 ok fair enough. i'm far from being expert, so i just though it could be useful if such possibility would exist. shame there is no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 24, 2020 Author Share Posted February 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, Carl0sAlbert0 said: Do I need to be using the latest database to get the best out of the latest Cerber tactic? Hi, Cerber V3 was developed for 2.2.4 patch and 2.3.0 patch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl0sAlbert0 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Cheers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 24, 2020 Author Share Posted February 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, fmjonek said: ok fair enough. i'm far from being expert, so i just though it could be useful if such possibility would exist. shame there is no. The roles and duties are very tricky, there could be only 5% difference or even smaller between some roles/duties if you also tweak the PIs and there could be like 30% difference between some other roles Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmjonek Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Totalfootballfan said: The roles and duties are very tricky, there could be only 5% difference or even smaller between some roles/duties if you also tweak the PIs and there could be like 30% difference between some other roles i get it. possible but too much to do to make it worth. thanks for clarification. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas91 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) 12 games to the end ! All season Cerber v3! AM takes care of all team talks and press conferences, and general training too! (Second Season - promoted from VNL North) Edited February 24, 2020 by Jonas91 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas91 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Champion ! last two months of the season were hard, 2 straight losses (FM'ed on both ) got the morale down a bit and took a little for them to get up again with some draws on the mix! Even then great overachieving even if i had ended up 2nd , 3rd or even 4th! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas91 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Next challenge Sky Bet League Two! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 25, 2020 Author Share Posted February 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jonas91 said: Next challenge Sky Bet League Two! Good luck with it, mate 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasty Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, Totalfootballfan said: Changing SS(A) to AP(A) will have a huge impact, these roles have very different behavior What if I change my ML and MR into AML and AMR for Cerber V3? Is there going to be a huge impact on how the team plays? There are just too many players that are natural in AMR/AML positions yet not even competent in the ML and MR positions. Edited February 25, 2020 by dasty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 25, 2020 Author Share Posted February 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, dasty said: What if I change my ML and MR into AML and AMR for Cerber V3? Is there going to be a huge impact on how the team plays? There are just too many players that are natural in AMR/AML positions yet not even competent in the ML and MR positions. Ehh… Mate, I would also prefer using AML/AMR positions because there are more player for AML/AMR positions but that change will have a significant negative impact Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonolo Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Tff do you have to change the individual training at one point? Or can you leave it forever the way you suggested for each tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonmeds Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Is Lewandowski not suitible for this tactic? As my leading striker he have only scored 5 in 17 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmjonek Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, Simonmeds said: Is Lewandowski not suitible for this tactic? As my leading striker he have only scored 5 in 17 games. it just might be that tactic doesn't work for your team. for me Ashbringer v1 was a lot better than newer tactics by TFF, unil most recent patch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonmeds Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, fmjonek said: it just might be that tactic doesn't work for your team. for me Ashbringer v1 was a lot better than newer tactics by TFF, unil most recent patch. You think? Based on a quick look I think Bayern have a team that suits the tactic. I’m winning matches, it’s just that Lewandowski doesn’t score that much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmjonek Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Simonmeds said: You think? Based on a quick look I think Bayern have a team that suits the tactic. I’m winning matches, it’s just that Lewandowski doesn’t score that much. my team suits most of tactics by TFF yet for some reasons not all are giving me as good result as other. if you're winning then it's ok imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 25, 2020 Author Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Simonmeds said: Is Lewandowski not suitible for this tactic? As my leading striker he have only scored 5 in 17 games. Lewandowski should do Ok but for the striker position you might want someone a bit more faster, agile and with better dribbling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonmeds Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 38 minutes ago, Totalfootballfan said: Lewandowski should do Ok but for the striker position you might want someone a bit more faster, agile and with better dribbling Someone like Timo Werner perhaps? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmjonek Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, Simonmeds said: Someone like Timo Werner perhaps? Haaland is man to go in every team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 25, 2020 Author Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Simonmeds said: Someone like Timo Werner perhaps? Timo Werner also has own weak sides, for example, he lacks Decisions, Composure, Dribbling and Technique 1 hour ago, fmjonek said: Haaland is man to go in every team I would considered him only if you play with the Winter Transfer update where he got a boost of his attributes Haaland lacks Dribbling, Technique, Acceleration and Agility A perfect striker for Cerber V3 would be Mbappe, Salah, Mane, Messi, Neymar, Griezmann, Heung-Min Son, Sergio Agüero, Paulo Dybala, Gabriel Jesus, Alexandre Lacazette Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmjonek Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) so Moussa Dembele should be good. edit: lol stupid me, forgot to change language in game. i will translate lol Decisions: 13 Composure: 15 Dribbling: 15 Technique:15 Acceleration: 16 Agility : 16 Finishing: 16 Off ball: 17 Edited February 25, 2020 by fmjonek Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 25, 2020 Author Share Posted February 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, fmjonek said: so Moussa Dembele should be good. yeahh… Moussa Dembele will do good at the striker position in Cerber V3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzahy Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 22 hours ago, Totalfootballfan said: AMC - De Bruyne ( I would try to unlearn him "Comes Deep To Get The Ball" PPM ) hey TFF where do i unlearn him ? cant find it in the game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 25, 2020 Author Share Posted February 25, 2020 32 minutes ago, fmjonek said: Decisions: 13 Composure: 15 Dribbling: 15 Technique:15 Acceleration: 16 Agility : 16 Finishing: 16 Off ball: 17 The striker in Cerber V3 should create through balls opportunities and react faster on through balls passes than the opposition defenders so if his Anticipation, Off The Ball and Decisions attribute are higher than Anticipation, Positions and Decisions attributes of the defenders then he'll do that job well Also, he must be faster than the defenders and he should be good at running with the ball so he need good speed and dribbling skills And of course, he should be good at scoring goals so he should have high Finishing, Composure, Decisions, Concentration Also, high Technique attribute helps in all areas, the higher Technique, the more a player can do with the ball Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmjonek Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Totalfootballfan said: The striker in Cerber V3 should create through balls opportunities and react faster on through balls passes than the opposition defenders so if his Anticipation and Off The Ball attribute are higher than Anticipation and Positions attribute of the defenders then he'll do that job well Also, he must be faster than the defenders and he should be good at running with the ball so he need good speed and dribbling skills And of course, he should be good at scoring goals so he should have high Finishing, Composure, Decisions, Concentration Also, high Technique attribute helps in all areas, the higher Technique, the more a player can do with the ball sound like Moussa Dembele will be my new striker in Leicester Quote hey TFF where do i unlearn him ? cant find it in the game in training under his PPM list is a button "new PPM". you pick coach, what type of PPM to learn/unlearn (going back for ball is in positioning), pick specific one from list, if coach dissagree just say you know better. Edited February 25, 2020 by fmjonek Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 25, 2020 Author Share Posted February 25, 2020 26 minutes ago, tzahy said: hey TFF where do i unlearn him ? cant find it in the game Hey mate, 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 25, 2020 Author Share Posted February 25, 2020 19 minutes ago, fmjonek said: sound like Moussa Dembele will be my new striker in Leicester He's 146CA/156PA so I'd say for Leicester he'll be a very good player Of course, he isn't Mbappé who is 181CA/196PA Also, if Haaland reaches his 178PA and increases his Dribbling and Technique skill then he'll become also one of the best choice for Cerber V3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmjonek Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) i'm in 3rd season so Dembele probably reached his PA already. about Mbappe. yeah, probably impossible as system of club growing reputation and financial abilities is completely broken in FM. in FM 19 i played about 8 season with West Ham. last few seasons i won few titles and i won CL 3 times, yet players were still crying about going to bigger club, those bigger clubs i've beaten so many time already. plus i've made over 1 billion in profit for club, just on transfers, still board was always moaning that club is not in great financial situation so they cut my transfer budged. never got more than 60m at start of season. thing are looking similliar in my Leicester save. so yeah. based on this experience i think i will never buy Mbappe. Edited February 25, 2020 by fmjonek Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 25, 2020 Author Share Posted February 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, fmjonek said: so yeah. based on this experience i think i will never buy Mbappe. Heh... of course, mate... as Leicester it would be a bit hard to buy Mbappe I'm just giving examples of some "perfect" strikers for Cerber V3 tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmjonek Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Totalfootballfan said: Heh... of course, mate... as Leicester it would be a bit hard to buy Mbappe I'm just giving examples of some "perfect" strikers for Cerber V3 tactic i mean, if i manage to build team that wins PL and CL (i'm on good path to it) i won't be able to buy him anyway. i will never get enough money from board (even i'm making a lot of profit for club) plus grow of reputation of clubs is joke in FM. i don't know how many titles you have to win to be considered a BIG club. Edited February 25, 2020 by fmjonek Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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matty8787 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Team as a whole plays well in the Cerber I gotta admit but the CAM I can't get any consistency out of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 25, 2020 Author Share Posted February 25, 2020 24 minutes ago, matty8787 said: Team as a whole plays well in the Cerber I gotta admit but the CAM I can't get any consistency out of. Usually, the AMC in Cerber V3 is among the lowest rated positions in the tactic, he doesn't score many and also doesn't produce many assistances but he does other important job in the tactic which isn't rated high by the current ME Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty8787 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, Totalfootballfan said: Usually, the AMC in Cerber V3 is among the lowest rated positions in the tactic, he doesn't score many and also doesn't produce many assistances but he does other important job in the tactic which isn't rated high by the current ME Ok cheers for that, saves me going out and buying another thinking this guy is a dud! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebuuu Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) hmpf...i`m not getting warm with the newest tactics Cerber and Fury. @the winterpause i training it and the first 4-5 matches i couldn`t win. Even vs lower teams. Unbeaten the first half of the season and within the first 6 matches, second half of the season, 2 losses already. So i will stay with the great Raptor4 tactic and wait for a fresh 2 Striker-Tactic. I will try this tactic for a longer period. Screen coming soon. Edited February 25, 2020 by Nebuuu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manidaro7 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 great tactic the cerberus v3! I made two friendlies won 8-1 and 8-0, one cup won 4-1 and one championship won 3-0. I've always used cerberus because I didn't need to change and switch to fury v1. I hope there are no other updates so that it can continue the season that has just started and not throw everything in the wind. great tff, with your tactics nothing is impossible! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruffer23 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 @Totalfootballfan I’ve signed viktor Fischer for left wing but he has cut inside from left is this a bad thing ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 26, 2020 Author Share Posted February 26, 2020 12 minutes ago, Scruffer23 said: @Totalfootballfan I’ve signed viktor Fischer for left wing but he has cut inside from left is this a bad thing ?? Yup, it isn't a good thing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busog-Lusog Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 4 hours ago, Scruffer23 said: @Totalfootballfan I’ve signed viktor Fischer for left wing but he has cut inside from left is this a bad thing ?? I changed him to a Right Midfielder. Maybe that is an option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlemos Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 (edited) hi tff, let's say you are playing in a lower league. how would you buy your players? Because with your filters you cannot reach any player... remove filter by filter till you get someone... or lower the number of atributes? or even if you were playing high league there's a lot of players you cannot buy... how would you proceed? thanks Edited February 26, 2020 by rlemos Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlemos Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 (edited) And another question sometimes i have some dificulties to understand which player can help more to the next game, i mean which player has the best form and will be able to play the next game? What do you think about that? my point is sometimes you player 2 3 games in a row and everything good, after 4th one a player will do a lot of mistakes and something like that? how can figth that? should i be more carefull when i select the players? Edited February 26, 2020 by rlemos Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreBothmaTax Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 1 hour ago, rlemos said: how would you buy your players? Because with your filters you cannot reach any player... remove filter by filter till you get someone... or lower the number of atributes? or even if you were playing high league there's a lot of players you cannot buy... how would you proceed? thanks One thing that works for me is to do a league comparison of my club players, compared to the rest of the league. You'll notice that in Lower League, the highest attributes might be between 10 - 12. If I were in your shoes, I would use the same filters that TFF uses, but lower ideal attribute number by what's considered "best attribute numbers in the league". Also, on the OP, TFF has a guideline for filtering players - just use lower attribute numbers relevant for the league you play in 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 26, 2020 Author Share Posted February 26, 2020 51 minutes ago, rlemos said: hi tff, let's say you are playing in a lower league. how would you buy your players? Because with your filters you cannot reach any player... remove filter by filter till you get someone... or lower the number of atributes? or even if you were playing high league there's a lot of players you cannot buy... how would you proceed? thanks Hi, The filters can be adjusted to be used in any league and with any team, consider them as a base that can be tweaked to fit you league / team. if you play in lower leagues then I suggest just focusing on getting players with such CA that would be the highest CA for your league and they can have just few key attributes for the position at high level. 57 minutes ago, rlemos said: And another question sometimes i have some dificulties to understand which player can help more to the next game, i mean which player has the best form and will be able to play the next game? What do you think about that? my point is sometimes you player 2 3 games in a row and everything good, after 4th one a player will do a lot of mistakes and something like that? how can figth that? should i be more carefull when i select the players? The good past form doesn't guaranty that the future form will be also good. Let's say you are Man City and your 3 previous matches were against Norwich, Sheffield united and Brighton, in this case the current from of your players should be just great because highly likely you destroyed those teams and all your players got very high ratings and now your next 3 matches should be against Liverpool, Barcelona and Chelsea so the future form of your players highly likely will be much worse than the current form because there'll be 3 very difficult matches on your way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebuuu Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 (edited) So...the 2nd half of the season started. Was unbeaten so far with Hertha BSC, 1st Seasonhalf. Played the first match (4-1 vs Mainz) with RaptorV4 from TFF and switched to CerberV3 & Combo. Got 4 Draws (2 of them OMEGA-unlucky...), 9 wins after 13 Matches with CerberV3. So all in all above average performance, 1st season with Hertha BSC. Normally the club is lowmidfield or even lower atm. There were some good wins vs Bayern (4-3, Hattrick Piatek), Schalke (6-0) , Union (3-0, Berlin Derby) and Dortmund (1-0, place 8 atm). I`ve struggled vs smaller Clubs like Augsburg (0-0) and Köln (0-0), even when switching to Fury. But also great comebacks like the last cup-quarterfinal match vs Leverkusen@home. My team was 0-1 back, got the equalizer and then min. 1-2 again... ..but 85. Min 2-2, 88. Min 3-2, thanks to a corner. Also Piatek just exploded this season, so far.26 Goals in 29 Leaguematches.The seasonfinal vs Bayern Munich will be a thriller. There is only a 1 Point difference between us. I hope they will choke. I have to play vs Freiburg (A), M`Gladbach (H), National Cup-Semifinal, Paderborn (A), Düsseldorf (H) and Frankfurt (A), which looks absolutely possible to get many points together. Bayern has to play National Cup Quarterfinal vs Gladbach (A), Union (A), Atl. Madrid 2x@ CL Quarterfinal, Dortmund (H), Freiburg (A), M`Gladbach (H) and Paderborn (A), which is alot more to carry imo. So...Season-Endscreens coming soon. Wish me luck bros Edited February 26, 2020 by Nebuuu 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 26, 2020 Author Share Posted February 26, 2020 13 minutes ago, Nebuuu said: So...the 2nd half of the season started. Was unbeaten so far with Hertha BSC, 1st Seasonhalf. Played the first match (4-1 vs Mainz) with RaptorV4 from TFF and switched to CerberV3 & Combo. Got 4 Draws (2 of them OMEGA-unlucky...), 9 wins after 13 Matches with CerberV3. So all in all above average performance, 1st season with Hertha BSC. Normally the club is lowmidfield or even lower atm. I wish you good luck, mate. Btw, I'd say comparing the 1st half and the 2nd half of the season isn't a good estimate and it could be very misleading. For example, it could be that in the 1st half you played vs stronger teams at home which greatly improves your results vs stronger team and in the 2nd half you played vs stronger team away which greatly decreases your result vs stronger team and it's a completely a normal thing when your result in the 1st half could be very different from the 2nd. Also, one half of the season is just 18 matches and it's a like a drop in the ocean because in my testing I see that results can vary up to 30% after more than 100 matches and could you just imagine how result can vary just only after 18 matches. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebuuu Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 vor einer Stunde schrieb Totalfootballfan: I wish you good luck, mate. Btw, I'd say comparing the 1st half and the 2nd half of the season isn't a good estimate and it could be very misleading. For example, it could be that in the 1st half you played vs stronger teams at home which greatly improves your results vs stronger team and in the 2nd half you played vs stronger team away which greatly decreases your result vs stronger team and it's a completely a normal thing when your result in the 1st half could be very different from the 2nd. Also, one half of the season is just 18 matches and it's a like a drop in the ocean because in my testing I see that results can vary up to 30% after more than 100 matches and could you just imagine how result can vary just only after 18 matches. Completely agree. That`s true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
haykel007 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Cerber V3 works perfectly ! My striker Andrea Belotti just became Ballon d'Or 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthomac1 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Hi Mr.TFF will you have a plan to make 442 formation tactic ? I'm really missed this formation 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totalfootballfan Posted February 26, 2020 Author Share Posted February 26, 2020 13 minutes ago, earthomac1 said: Hi Mr.TFF will you have a plan to make 442 formation tactic ? I'm really missed this formation Hi. At this moment in my tests "Cerber" approach beats "442" approach so I don't see the point of sharing any 442 formation tactic but of course, if I manager to create a 442 tactic that will be more efficient than Cerber then I'll share it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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