[FM20] Championship Manager 03/04 Database (24 leagues, ~15000 players)

[Ruh Roh]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1984059162

Foundation of the file was made by MadScientistFM, this is a port + tweak of his file from FM19 with a few leagues and a picture pack added

*** PICTURE PACK: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pN49BZiV0Aq75LG4uaWIzzPUHtpZ0QWD *** - Simply paste the pictures + config.xml into your faces folder and reload the skin
*** DAY ONE SAVE: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lgFcbnwb2iEBuu4GzFfa5LFS-2WUcSqx ***
If you're using the save file, paste it into your documents/SI/FM20/games folder

 

Now up to 36 different leagues with full 2003 rosters!

Top four divisions: England

Top three divisions: France

Top two divisions: Brazil
Germany
Italy
Japan - bonus editor file to run japan: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nBSBjYj-MjuqXM_BJUBD8k6CtsQHbOhx 
Netherlands
Scotland
Spain


Top division only: Argentina
Belgium
Croatia
Denmark
Greece
Korea
Mexico
Portugal
Russia
Serbia
Sweden
Switzerland
Turkey
Ukraine
USA - bonus editor file to run 10 team MLS: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nBSBjYj-MjuqXM_BJUBD8k6CtsQHbOhx

Edited October 1, 2020 by Ruh Roh

[Carlito85]

Not sure why but when I try to open this file in the editor, my editor keeps freezing.

[Rainbowz]

On 26/01/2020 at 23:01, Carlito85 said:

Not sure why but when I try to open this file in the editor, my editor keeps freezing.

A database like this will have probably a million changes in it and the editor has to load through all of them. It takes ages to load on the editor and it'll freeze up for ages. Just leave it running in the background and it should load eventually.

[Carlito85]

6 minutes ago, Rainbowz said:

A database like this will have probably a million changes in it and the editor has to load through all of them. It takes ages to load on the editor and it'll freeze up for ages. Just leave it running in the background and it should load eventually.

Yeah I managed to get it sorted, but cheers for the reply

It takes 25 minutes to start a new game with this database in case anyone is wondering. I'd imagine it's the same loading it up in the editor.

Edited January 28, 2020 by Carlito85

[Ruh Roh]

This is just me whining but how do people post updates/patches to their own files on Steam Workshop? Do they just...never do that? Is anyone who does a computing mastermind? I'd love to get someone from SI in here because in a process that includes mindlessly punching in tons of data, making the scripts for the picture packs, and waiting a half hour for things to load, Steam Workshop is like by far the worst part lmao. I think I was able to update the same file once or twice. Every other time, it's published a new file and taken away my ability to update (the little arrow on the left). So people are playing on old files with janky CL seeding, players like Schweinsteiger disappearing because of retirement dates, Casillas's heart issue being a weird hardcoded year-long ban I couldn't get rid of without deleting him and making a clone Casillas etc. Obviously I guess you could say I should have made it 100% perfect the first time but like there's so much stuff to check

Anyway, here's another one. Changes to first season CL seeding were made by Carlito85 from this thread

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198006638112/myworkshopfiles/?appid=1100600

https://drive.google.com/open?id=14-tYEuP17sV6jxhlmZyQ2XcSS1MB166p

 

Edited January 31, 2020 by Ruh Roh

[metallimuse]

I’ve been playing this since Monday and LOVE it!

Is there any way that you could maybe do the same thing with MadScientistFM’s 95/96 file from FM18? I’d love to play that on FM20.

Loving getting to play as Rangers in Scotland and having the likes of Klos, Arteta & Lovenkrands & the like. Just bought a young Iniesta for £500k from Barca lol!

[Ruh Roh]

On 05/02/2020 at 18:52, metallimuse said:

I’ve been playing this since Monday and LOVE it!

Is there any way that you could maybe do the same thing with MadScientistFM’s 95/96 file from FM18? I’d love to play that on FM20.

Loving getting to play as Rangers in Scotland and having the likes of Klos, Arteta & Lovenkrands & the like. Just bought a young Iniesta for £500k from Barca lol!

I can't do this for another file. Honestly I'm surprised I got myself to do it for this one

The Iniesta thing might actually have to be fixed lmao. Was it a minimum fee release? Because I think every player in Spain has to have one, and the game automatically assigns them based on reputation or something else that has nothing to do with ability. Messi kept going to Boca and like Shakhtar Donetsk in my test games so I had to set his myself.

 

Edited February 7, 2020 by Ruh Roh

[metallimuse]

Ahh that’s a shame but totally understand, I will keep enjoying this database then.

Yeah i tricked Iniesta’s minimum buyout.

Messi’s was only £1800 in my game so I snapped him up as well and then started hoovering up all the kids for my youth team.

Got those two along with Busquets, Mata, Alba and Ramos.

[Ruh Roh]

Fixed the Spanish release clauses (I hope), also fixed the reps/wages for some players in Turkey which were way too high.

Also added about 90 young players by looking at a list of the squads for the 2010 World Cup. Eboue and Nilmar are in now, but it's mostly just players from mid-size nations (South Korea, USA, Nigeria etc) who became decent pros, not superstars. So if you've ever wanted to, uh, sign a really young Brown Ideye, I guess you can do that.

Edited February 9, 2020 by Ruh Roh

[metallimuse]

@Ruh Roh 

Not sure if it’s an issue or not but Leeds are in debt of £13m but have a transfer budget of £55m.

I remember they had difficulty financially back then so might not be a bug but thought I’d query.

[Ruh Roh]

Good catch, gave Leeds a tiny transfer budget and a debt of somewhere around £100 million. Not sure if it'll have enough of an in-game impact (PL prize money etc is at 2020 levels, not 2004 levels) but at least their finances show up as "Insecure" for now

edit: also I killed VAR lol. Sorry VAR

Edited February 15, 2020 by Ruh Roh

[Tikka Mezzala]

About to give this a go. My memory isn't up to scratch on this season, so I hope I'll find Henrik Larsson in the hoops when I load it up. I remember he was at Barcelona in FM05. I'm hoping that was his first season there. 

[metallimuse]

16 hours ago, Tikka Mezzala said:

About to give this a go. My memory isn't up to scratch on this season, so I hope I'll find Henrik Larsson in the hoops when I load it up. I remember he was at Barcelona in FM05. I'm hoping that was his first season there. 

He’s at Celtic aye.

[cel1234]

Any screenshots please ??

[Ruh Roh]

Just added all the players+managers from the 2. Bundesliga, so that's in the game now. Brings the total of leagues with full rosters in the game up to 17 - Argentina 1, Denmark 1, England 1+2+3, France 1+2, Germany 1+2, Italy 1+2, Mexico 1, Netherlands 1, Portugal 1, Scotland 1, Spain 1, Turkey 1. Kind of wish I did Brazil, Greece or Russia instead, but oh well.

   

day one save: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1WFHOLhgW_mTZj_83cPga9K6T3YrwdwaU
facepack: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1q0bcmvBFmgRDobh00TWy_P9w7R6F75JV

Edited February 24, 2020 by Ruh Roh

[Carlito85]

17 minutes ago, Ruh Roh said:

Just added all the players+managers from the 2. Bundesliga, so that's in the game now. Brings the total of leagues with full rosters in the game up to 17 - Argentina 1, Denmark 1, England 1+2+3, France 1+2, Germany 1+2, Italy 1+2, Mexico 1, Netherlands 1, Portugal 1, Scotland 1, Spain 1, Turkey 1. Kind of wish I did Brazil, Greece or Russia instead, but oh well.

   

day one save: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1WFHOLhgW_mTZj_83cPga9K6T3YrwdwaU
facepack: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1q0bcmvBFmgRDobh00TWy_P9w7R6F75JV

I've got a few leagues bookmarked to start work on in the near future but I'll have to try and get hold of a new copy of CM4. The one I have has had issues installing. Either that or I can run off FM05.

[Ruh Roh]

On 20/02/2020 at 17:41, cel1234 said:

Any screenshots please ??

Probably aren't any screenshots that sum up the point of this thing better than this

Edited February 25, 2020 by Ruh Roh

[metallimuse]

17 hours ago, Ruh Roh said:

Just added all the players+managers from the 2. Bundesliga, so that's in the game now. Brings the total of leagues with full rosters in the game up to 17 - Argentina 1, Denmark 1, England 1+2+3, France 1+2, Germany 1+2, Italy 1+2, Mexico 1, Netherlands 1, Portugal 1, Scotland 1, Spain 1, Turkey 1. Kind of wish I did Brazil, Greece or Russia instead, but oh well.

 

Oww very nice. Might have a little play around with Cottbus.

 

If you ever have any inclination then I'd be very grateful for any additional work in the Scottish leagues  

[Ruh Roh]

Another typical update with young players, trying to do what I could to stem the dreaded Regen Tide a little. Think there's about 150 of them. Mostly like current-day 30-35 year olds, so 14-19ish in the game with a couple exceptions on the high side. Everyone is 16 years younger in this than they really are. Gareth Bale's birthday (mid-July 1989) is around the cutoff because if you make a player younger than 14, he just won't ever show up in the game. You've got Enzo Perez! You've got Caner Erkin! Uh, Guram Kashia and Ola Toivonen! Mkhitaryan, Witsel and Matic are the biggest stars but really Madscientist was very comprehensive with the original DB, so many of these kinds of players were already in the game. My very scientific technique was just looking for players who were gold cards on Futhead one year (15? 16?)

 

Day one save: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1MksUeuD8G7fBjz4EHzFzOQT0YjDUhT_c

2025 holiday "snow globe" save: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1O4rbd5jZOf0ryIaEYmzbVgE03UygRMXi

Face pack (think it's up to like 4000 extra images now?): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1q0bcmvBFmgRDobh00TWy_P9w7R6F75JV/view

 

 

[MorrisseyMuse]

This is amazing, thanks! I've just been having a blast of nostalgia playing this, alot of work and thought has clearly been put in to this Herculean task by all involved! kudos and thanks to you all and to Mad Scientist for starting it all off!

[MorrisseyMuse]

On 05/02/2020 at 23:52, metallimuse said:

Is there any way that you could maybe do the same thing with MadScientistFM’s 95/96 file from FM18? I’d love to play that on FM20.

Can anyone provide me with the file or a link for this as well please?  I'd like to see if there's any way at all we could bring it over to FM 20.

I seem to be having trouble with Steam Workshop at the mo for some reason and the file I did find of this 95/96 update, my FM 18 editor wouldn't detect no matter what I did!

[metallimuse]

3 hours ago, MorrisseyMuse said:

 

Can anyone provide me with the file or a link for this as well please?  I'd like to see if there's any way at all we could bring it over to FM 20.

I seem to be having trouble with Steam Workshop at the mo for some reason and the file I did find of this 95/96 update, my FM 18 editor wouldn't detect no matter what I did!

I used it through steam and sadly I’m not tech savvy enough to help.

You could try reaching out to him on Twitter for assistance.

[Ruh Roh]

The only problem with importing, or like 95% of the problem, is replacing the players that get deleted by SI in the yearly database switchover.

Step 1: delete brand new players (player entries with 0 changes) - easy, just takes a long time to process

Step 2: fix the leagues so they run, since every year teams get promoted+relegated and it messes with your tables. Only funny/annoying part is how they force you to wrangle with the youth leagues in some countries, too. Like I do not care who's in the Calcio Excellenza U19 C or whatever those things were called.

Step 3: cross-reference DB against DB loaded in previous year's editor, make a list of who's missing in notepad or something. Not fun! Obviously sort by ID, not alphabetically. But once it gets into the brand new IDs (the long ones starting with 1915... or whatever), no one should be missing. Actually I lied, there's that "retired players" group that has to end before brand new IDs begin, though I forget if they get pruned or not

Step 4: replace them. I think I had to replace like 800 players to get this working on FM20. A normal league like 2. Bundesliga or Russia which I'm messing with now might be about 500 players.

I don't have his 95-96 file but for anyone who wants to try, it should be easier if he used more brand new IDs to create the players (which I'd imagine he did, as more of those players are out of the DB, the file might not be as big as this one etc).

 

edit: I forgot one of the only things I did for this file that was cool and not just pure gruntwork. You also have to change everyone's birth year so they're not (in this case with an FM18 file) 2 years too old, but it's very doable with find+replaces if you convert the file to a giant freakshow 500 MB XML file. I'd gladly pop in and do that again if someone else can do the hard stuff lol

Edited March 8, 2020 by Ruh Roh

[metallimuse]

On 08/03/2020 at 05:12, MorrisseyMuse said:

 

Can anyone provide me with the file or a link for this as well please?  I'd like to see if there's any way at all we could bring it over to FM 20.

I seem to be having trouble with Steam Workshop at the mo for some reason and the file I did find of this 95/96 update, my FM 18 editor wouldn't detect no matter what I did!

Looks like someone has done the database https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1934474750&searchtext=

[metallimuse]

Oh FFS, the person has put the Old Firm in England. I'll give it a miss.

[MorrisseyMuse]

12 hours ago, metallimuse said:

Looks like someone has done the database https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1934474750&searchtext=

 

12 hours ago, metallimuse said:

Oh FFS, the person has put the Old Firm in England. I'll give it a miss.

Sweet thanks! I'll take a look :) I found a copy and started doing it myself last night, will take weeks to get it copied over!

Kudos to the person who did it! But still...think I'll have to check the leagues ;) :)

[MorrisseyMuse]

On 08/03/2020 at 21:43, Ruh Roh said:

The only problem with importing, or like 95% of the problem, is replacing the players that get deleted by SI in the yearly database switchover.

Step 1: delete brand new players (player entries with 0 changes) - easy, just takes a long time to process

Step 2: fix the leagues so they run, since every year teams get promoted+relegated and it messes with your tables. Only funny/annoying part is how they force you to wrangle with the youth leagues in some countries, too. Like I do not care who's in the Calcio Excellenza U19 C or whatever those things were called.

Step 3: cross-reference DB against DB loaded in previous year's editor, make a list of who's missing in notepad or something. Not fun! Obviously sort by ID, not alphabetically. But once it gets into the brand new IDs (the long ones starting with 1915... or whatever), no one should be missing. Actually I lied, there's that "retired players" group that has to end before brand new IDs begin, though I forget if they get pruned or not

Step 4: replace them. I think I had to replace like 800 players to get this working on FM20. A normal league like 2. Bundesliga or Russia which I'm messing with now might be about 500 players.

I don't have his 95-96 file but for anyone who wants to try, it should be easier if he used more brand new IDs to create the players (which I'd imagine he did, as more of those players are out of the DB, the file might not be as big as this one etc).

 

edit: I forgot one of the only things I did for this file that was cool and not just pure gruntwork. You also have to change everyone's birth year so they're not (in this case with an FM18 file) 2 years too old, but it's very doable with find+replaces if you convert the file to a giant freakshow 500 MB XML file. I'd gladly pop in and do that again if someone else can do the hard stuff lol

I somehow missed this reply first time round sorry! 😝😁

Blimey! and here's me getting all excited because I can load the 1995 db and edit players on it! lol The act of deleting 1000's of invalid entries alone each year always puts me off editing. Probably why I stuck to doing a weekly stat update currently though I'm a sucker for punishment so am also tinkering with an FM2008 update as well as a complete fantasy update for FM20 on top.

[Ruh Roh]

Russian league should be up and running now. Had to do a little adjusting with the reputation figures so the clubs wouldn't be going out of business paying every single marginally above average player 20k/week. If you remember the likes of Saturn Ramenskoye and FC Moscow - well, they're back!

Most recent save including Russia: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1dDZNXKfzjQQhU7l32DXi3oKFRdt-0x1t
Most recent picture pack including Russia: https://drive.google.com/open?id=11uv3s0DoMDxJnLO_Ei0x-jLKxQ7JIpVC

I'm working on Greece, probably halfway through, but I already feel The Burnout coming so after Greece that might be it from me for FM20. Plugging in on this an hour or two a day for a week feels fine, but it's easy to hit a wall after that.

[metallimuse]

So amazing the work you’ve done pal, been really enjoying the file.

[Ruh Roh]

Greece is up! Did some little tweaks to club/league history entries so those annoying things showing 2018/19 title winners should be gone. I thought this would make first year European qualifications a little better, and maybe it did in some spots, but poor Panathinaikos just don't want to be in the CL no matter what I do.

Actually, ****, they have a full 3-year ban from European football lmao, I just looked it up. That explains that. Since I think it's hardcoded, maybe I'll make a copy Panathinaikos team tonight to get around it. It won't have their logo though.

Save game file (for now) with Greece: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1_15aGauM7bi6TD7cfp-qZHe87RpVDjO_

Picture files with Greece: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1acGo0KO_1tYZ16flEK9sAfKhM_EOqMST

[Ruh Roh]

OK so I finished the spanish second division. Gonna blame it on the 'rona

New save game with spain2: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ov5kiD3TPBKQy3UYI7APCIPZHBdYgxIP

Facepack with "normal ID numbers" - should work with any save game file you downloaded from me: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1rfNo66_aMz_qtBoXl8PqpTv62mG6MEXX

Facepack with ID numbers thrown off by one - I think it should work with any file you started yourself: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1rObUghD2KFIfq3a04w1ykNIribUUa3qa

Edited March 19, 2020 by Ruh Roh

[Ruh Roh]

Croatian league's up. You've got old man Prosinecki still kicking around for NK Zagreb! Only did it so early because it's like 10 teams, now I'm somewhere in the middle of Belgium. Well I'm not actually in belgium, I'm in new jersey

 Save: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1iZdl5RVmze2bc8anmbnq3dmS2rbzERF7
Pictures (including croatia + fixes for argentina): https://drive.google.com/open?id=1HHTQk94KW2WEvP0kLi2piRyA-0NrjoRu

Edited March 23, 2020 by Ruh Roh

[WilltheWolf92]

15 minutes ago, Ruh Roh said:

Croatian league's up. You've got old man Prosinecki still kicking around for NK Zagreb! Only did it so early because it's like 10 teams, now I'm somewhere in the middle of Belgium. Well I'm not actually in belgium, I'm in new jersey

 Save: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1iZdl5RVmze2bc8anmbnq3dmS2rbzERF7
Pictures (including croatia + fixes for argentina): https://drive.google.com/open?id=1HHTQk94KW2WEvP0kLi2piRyA-0NrjoRu

Do you mean you're editing belgium clubs for 03/04, would be pretty cool!

[mbyrd75]

On 23/03/2020 at 15:17, Ruh Roh said:

Croatian league's up. You've got old man Prosinecki still kicking around for NK Zagreb! Only did it so early because it's like 10 teams, now I'm somewhere in the middle of Belgium. Well I'm not actually in belgium, I'm in new jersey

 Save: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1iZdl5RVmze2bc8anmbnq3dmS2rbzERF7
Pictures (including croatia + fixes for argentina): https://drive.google.com/open?id=1HHTQk94KW2WEvP0kLi2piRyA-0NrjoRu

I'm using one of your save files but missing a ton of faces. Should i try the off by 1 face pack? Big players like rooney, beckham etc too not just random obscure players. 

Great job btw! most fun I've had with FM in a long time. Thank You!

[Ruh Roh]

Becks and Rooney use their default game ID numbers, they're not in there with my facepacks so I'm not sure. Maybe you just have to press the "reload skin" button in preferences? Do faces work in your other saves?

I use Ashley Cole as my reference for the +1 face pack thing. If his face is showing up as some white guy, you should use it, if he's fine or if nothing's showing up for him it's something else.

Edited March 25, 2020 by Ruh Roh

[Ruh Roh]

Belgium first division is complete. It comes with one of my favorite teams in the whole database, the ridiculous KSK Beveren back when they almost had a whole squad of Ivorians.

http://i.4cdn.org/sp/1585165460305.png

Day one save game including Belgium (think it's up to 22 leagues, 16 countries): https://drive.google.com/open?id=1L2pG5eCXvycBq0f8cJHcwjsM7rCaZLKI

Pictures including Belgium: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1D7AhS6LJSR-fkOHhSjz7z5OtvceSjQIN

[metallimuse]

If I’ve downloaded this on steam how do I get these updates?

[Ruh Roh]

  

20 minutes ago, metallimuse said:

If I’ve downloaded this on steam how do I get these updates?

 

I think it updates automatically, like I added belgium last night (american time). You might have to do the old restart steam or restart FM or restart the editor thing to get an update from steam workshop. Then of course it takes a half hour (on a good day) to start a new game with this.

If it says "Belgian First Division" instead of the default "Belgian Pro League" on the add leagues screen it should be the newest file.

Edited March 25, 2020 by Ruh Roh

[Joshalderson3]

How do I get 04 database on fm 20 please?

[Ruh Roh]

17 hours ago, Joshalderson3 said:

How do I get 04 database on fm 20 please?

Easiest way is to download one of the save game files I've put up in the google drive links (.fm file format) and put it in your games folder with all your other FM20 saves, default windows (I think) is Documents\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2020\games . The startup time to make a new save with this editor file ticked is, unfortunately, pretty miserable. Lots of people probably still think it's freezing their computers.

I just finished brazil lol. I was in a ****ing trance for half of it but it's done. I know there won't be a lot of people playing as like, Goias, or Slaven Belupo on these things, but my mentality is if I do it now, it's done, and since all these players are on unique IDs, people will probably be able to port them forward for as long as FM and the editor are things. If I had people working on this with me, or if it got really popular next year I don't think it would be impossible to get every playable league done eventually.

Save game (with brazil): https://drive.google.com/open?id=1_On7rhBrcgK95Z9hL1qtShhO8qmzKoJa

Pictures: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1cGdPoiisfJuFvsxOfSNYR44liX4BoQMC

Edited April 1, 2020 by Ruh Roh

[mbyrd75]

Awesome. Thank you for your hard work!

[Cavenaghi99]

On 01/04/2020 at 09:27, Ruh Roh said:

Easiest way is to download one of the save game files I've put up in the google drive links (.fm file format) and put it in your games folder with all your other FM20 saves, default windows (I think) is Documents\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2020\games . The startup time to make a new save with this editor file ticked is, unfortunately, pretty miserable. Lots of people probably still think it's freezing their computers.

I just finished brazil lol. I was in a ****ing trance for half of it but it's done. I know there won't be a lot of people playing as like, Goias, or Slaven Belupo on these things, but my mentality is if I do it now, it's done, and since all these players are on unique IDs, people will probably be able to port them forward for as long as FM and the editor are things. If I had people working on this with me, or if it got really popular next year I don't think it would be impossible to get every playable league done eventually.

Save game (with brazil): https://drive.google.com/open?id=1_On7rhBrcgK95Z9hL1qtShhO8qmzKoJa

Pictures: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1cGdPoiisfJuFvsxOfSNYR44liX4BoQMC

Thanks for the amazing work  mate that has made my quarantine....could you tell me how can we export such databases if you know..i'd like to go few years back to play 2001-2002 with batistua for example. & few of the legends when they are younger.

[Ruh Roh]

14 minutes ago, Cavenaghi99 said:

Thanks for the amazing work  mate that has made my quarantine....could you tell me how can we export such databases if you know..i'd like to go few years back to play 2001-2002 with batistua for example. & few of the legends when they are younger.

Unfortunately, I do all the work by hand.  I wouldn't be surprised if SI have a way to convert the databases up and down, but they'll never be able to tell us because of licensing stuff. So it takes me a very long time, and I barely play FM or any other games anymore. Going forward a year, or back a year, at least for me, isn't an option. I would have never thought doing it this way was even possible without seeing how well MadScientist did with the big leagues when he made the original version of this for FM19.

If you just want to mess around with a few players, maybe it would be a good place for the ingame editor (not the pregame, it takes forever to load the big file + it runs so slow)

[Cavenaghi99]

On 03/04/2020 at 19:54, Ruh Roh said:

Unfortunately, I do all the work by hand.  I wouldn't be surprised if SI have a way to convert the databases up and down, but they'll never be able to tell us because of licensing stuff. So it takes me a very long time, and I barely play FM or any other games anymore. Going forward a year, or back a year, at least for me, isn't an option. I would have never thought doing it this way was even possible without seeing how well MadScientist did with the big leagues when he made the original version of this for FM19.

If you just want to mess around with a few players, maybe it would be a good place for the ingame editor (not the pregame, it takes forever to load the big file + it runs so slow)

thanks alot for your reply mate, can't really complain just wanted to play with some of my favorite childhood players a little longer before they retire in the game like batistuta& co.

but anyways thanks alot for that.

i have a thing to ask is there are lots of faces for england missing or there is something wrong in my game ?like for example hernan crespo & lampard & terry at chelsea.

[Ruh Roh]

Went into FM05 editor and added all the MLS players (it's not licensed in CM 03-04). Kinda crazy that I put Slaven Belupo in the game before I put Carlos Bocanegra, Brian McBride, Eddie Pope, Tony Meola - I mean, I'm ****ing American!

The league structure is gonna be...weird. I can make a second file and use it without breaking all of the pictures and ID numbers, which is good, means I can do Japan eventually. But I won't be able to get it working with the actual MLS rules. I thought I could add the expansions in at the right times, the expansion drafts would work, the Superdraft would work, I could give all the real life random MLS/American ~84-89 DOBs to random amateur clubs and they'd get drafted. None of that works, absolutely none of it. And the MLS AI is, like, insane. They made 13 trades in 2 months and they traded Freddy Adu for a draft pick

So I guess this week I'll  probably make a generic MLS pro-rel with the 10 2003 MLS teams in the first division (colorado, columbus, dallas, new york metrostars, chicago, dc united, kansas city, new england, la galaxy, san jose) and the expansion teams in the second division, probably with SPL championship bracket/relegation bracket rules because I like them.

Edited April 6, 2020 by Ruh Roh

[metallimuse]

So, does that men the US would work like a European League with regards to the rules? Normal transfers/promotion and relegation/normal contracts?

[Ruh Roh]

On 06/04/2020 at 02:46, metallimuse said:

So, does that men the US would work like a European League with regards to the rules? Normal transfers/promotion and relegation/normal contracts?

Yeah, it was the easiest way. "Realistic" MLS isn't very fun to play anyway in FM because the AI has such a hard time with the rules. But I thought if I could get it perfect with the expansions and the drafts, I'd go for it. 

So the league has a second division with the expansion teams (and regens), a 10 team first division with the real players, one relegation spot (starting in 2020), a foreign player limit (either 6 or 7 i forget) and an SPL split about 3/5 into the season with a "championship group" and a "relegation group." Unfortunately you won't be able to sign like Beckham and Henry with these teams, it's just a generic league that's a little bit weaker than mexico.

 

 

Game save with MLS: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1fTw9Uiu4AbogKs75ZzCkJrpt15r_0Iyn

Player pictures with MLS: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1R5CruvFQG3-aRUyKks920EJ0qSZyouvt

MLS "companion file" for startups with MLS: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1nBSBjYj-MjuqXM_BJUBD8k6CtsQHbOhx

Edited April 10, 2020 by Ruh Roh

[Ruh Roh]

 

 

 

Serbian league's done. That format is a split thing, they're not relegating 8 teams. Serbian league was actually merged with Montenegro back then, but that isn't a big deal - I moved the bigger Montenegrin sides to the Serbian pyramid, set the Montenegrin national competitions to extinct, so their European qualifying spots go...somewhere. Also did some work on PPMs for the top players (basically the way this thing gets made, it's easy for the histories, favored personnel, favored clubs and PPMs to get erased), so Robben finally cuts inside.

Day one save including serbia: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ZBOu6gKoyMr8VkNXiwhkrmAlgKuJ3qp2
Big ol picture pack including serbia: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Lhztk9BTgSvO2LUI3dxejfztuMy509Tm

 

 

[xLiiMiTx]

Thank you, im sure i wiill enjoy this save Hamburger SV in good old Times

[TRFC23]

On 08/03/2020 at 21:43, Ruh Roh said:

The only problem with importing, or like 95% of the problem, is replacing the players that get deleted by SI in the yearly database switchover.

Step 1: delete brand new players (player entries with 0 changes) - easy, just takes a long time to process

Step 2: fix the leagues so they run, since every year teams get promoted+relegated and it messes with your tables. Only funny/annoying part is how they force you to wrangle with the youth leagues in some countries, too. Like I do not care who's in the Calcio Excellenza U19 C or whatever those things were called.

Step 3: cross-reference DB against DB loaded in previous year's editor, make a list of who's missing in notepad or something. Not fun! Obviously sort by ID, not alphabetically. But once it gets into the brand new IDs (the long ones starting with 1915... or whatever), no one should be missing. Actually I lied, there's that "retired players" group that has to end before brand new IDs begin, though I forget if they get pruned or not

Step 4: replace them. I think I had to replace like 800 players to get this working on FM20. A normal league like 2. Bundesliga or Russia which I'm messing with now might be about 500 players.

I don't have his 95-96 file but for anyone who wants to try, it should be easier if he used more brand new IDs to create the players (which I'd imagine he did, as more of those players are out of the DB, the file might not be as big as this one etc).

 

edit: I forgot one of the only things I did for this file that was cool and not just pure gruntwork. You also have to change everyone's birth year so they're not (in this case with an FM18 file) 2 years too old, but it's very doable with find+replaces if you convert the file to a giant freakshow 500 MB XML file. I'd gladly pop in and do that again if someone else can do the hard stuff lol

You're not wrong!!