Popular Post FuSS Posted April 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2020 (edited) FuSSfilment (fulfilment - the achievement of something desired) News Version 2.0.1 is out. Updated all the version numbers to match (I'm a bit of a neat freak, sorry!). Synopsis As always with my tactics I'm aiming for football which is both successful and beautiful. The majority of decent tactics out there right now make use of very line lines, gengenpress, and extreme settings, while this works, it's not want I want to watch. I'm a big believer in the passing game and this tactic is based on building passing triangles that advance up the two flanks, either cutting the ball back to an on-rushing central midfielder or whipping it across to the the far post for a tap in. Mentality I've use the Positive mentality for nearly all games. Team Talks Do them yourself, even the best Assistant Managers seem very poor at them. Be harsh! Ask yourself what the stereotypical Sir Alex Ferguson would have done. Before I match: I usually Aggressively "expect a result", followed by individually Calmly telling them "I have faith" only if they haven't responded positively already. At half time: If most of my team have below 7 performance I will Aggressively tell them it's "not good enough", those that don't respond to that (or respond badly) I will individually tell they were "not good enough" Calmly. At half time: If my team are performing well I'll use the Calm "don't get complacent" option, those that don't respond to that (or respond badly) I will individually tell they were "not good enough" Calmly. Opposition Instructions I only use them to resolve problems. The best example is my recent game against Bournemouth. Who play direct counter-attacking football, with balls over the top to two very fast strikers - my tactic’s worst nightmare! I started the game normally, but it became clear in the first 10 minutes that King and C. Wilson would be an issue. Therefore, I used the OI’s to stem their supply. I set their three creative midfield players to be closed down, marked tightly and shown onto their weaker foot. Simple, logical, problem solved. Team Selection Do it yourself Pre-Season Use your pre-season properly. Tons of matches, double training, fitness/tactical focus, work those players HARD! Tips This tactic is all about passing and crossing. As a rule of thumb, your pass completion rate should be around 90% As a rule of thumb, your cross completion rate should be round 25% If these two things are not happening then you need to get to the route of the issue - it's usually pretty easy to identify and remove a player causing these problems during a game. Condition Think of a players condition as the peak percentage of the players skill that you're going to get. A player with slightly worse stats at 100% condition/match-fitness is probably going to perform better than a player with better stats at 80% condition/match-fitness. Do not play tired/jaded/non-sharp players in important games, you're literally getting less of the player - and yes every tiny percentage makes a difference. Rotation, Rotation, Rotation I follow the famous advice of Jose Mourinho here. Aim to have two experts for every position - ideally a first team squad of 22 players. Personally I setup and save Team A and Team B and rotate them every single match - this guarantees player condition and keeps everyone happy with their playing time. If someone doesn't like it, I sell them, nobody is bigger than the club. Shouts Shouts are awesome once again - they are akin to a boost button. During the match, I simply rotate these two repeatedly: 1st - "Demand more" 2nd - "Get creative" REPEAT If your team are winning and playing well then I add a third shout to the rotation: 1st - "Demand more" 2nd - "Get creative". 3rd - "Praise" REPEAT Players CF – Pressing Forward (Support) Type of player: You actually need an Advanced Forward here! Best stats: Finishing, Heading, Composure. Good PPMs: "Likes To Beat Offside Trap", "Plays One-Twos". Note 1: It may seem odd, but you need a complete forward type player here, someone with composure, who can finish, head, beat-the-trap. The PF setting create the movement needed from the rest of the team. AML/R - Inside Forwards (Support) Type of player: A traditional inside forward (think: Salah or Sterling). Best stats: Dribbling, Acceleration, Finishing. Good PPMs: "Cuts Inside", "Runs with Ball Often". Note 1: SHOULD USE OPPOSITE FOOT Note 2: Don't switch them to attack, they won't cover and you'll get smashed on counter attacked. MCL - Advanced Playmaker (Attack) Type of player: This is where you use your typical AMC superstar, he's really important, if he's not performing, sub him out! (think: Silva/Buendía). Best stats: Vision, Flair, Passing, Technique. Good PPMs: "Tries Killer Balls Often". Note 1: "Curls Ball" seems a great trait here, but I've not had too many players with it. Young Andre Anderson has been a sensation for me here. MCR - Mezzala (Attack) Type of player: You want a good all-round attacking midfielder here (think: Frank Lampard) Best stats: Anticipation, Decisions, and mental stats rule the roost here. Good PPMs: "Shoots from Distance" Note 1: I find the Mezzela shares the half-spaces with the IF(R) too often, but I'm yet to find a suitable alternative, watch this space. DMC – Defensive Midfielder (Support) Type of player: You're actually after a competent DMC first and foremost, if he can also pass and create then that's a great bonus. Best stats: Tackling, Positioning, Anticipation. FB – Full Back (Attack) Type of player: The most important position in this tactic, you're asking a lot of your full-backs, they need to be great defensively, fast, dribble and cross (think: Trent or Trippier). Best stats: Marking, Tackling, Crossing, Dribbling, Acceleration. Good PPMs: "Runs With Ball Down The X". Notes 1: This is the most important position in your team - get good players here, this is where to splash that cash! CB – Ball Playing Defenders (Defend) Type of player: Heading, Jumping and Positioning are vital as this tactic uses a high defensive line, so you'll need to win the ball in the air. Best stats: Heading, Jumping, Marking, Tackling, Positioning. Good PPMs: "Does Not Dive Into Tackles". Note 1: Keep an eye on the defensive pass rate here, it should stay at least 80%, otherwise you haven't got good enough players to be your BPS, switch them to normal CBs Note 2: This tactic uses a high-defensive line, that means you want your defenders to win the ball "in the air", there's a common misconception that acceleration is key, it certainly isn't bad, but you can be the faster player in the world, if you're facing the opposite direction from the attacker, you'll still loose the race. GK - Sweep Keeper (Defender) Type of player: Just the best keeper you can get hold of, being a sweeper keeper isn't a major part of this tactic. Best stats: Handling, Reflexes, Arial Reach. Download below! I've also included my person squad view which you may find helpful - Download "FuSS info view" FuSS Info View.fmf FuSSfilment v1.0.0.fmf FuSSfilment v1.0.1.fmf FuSSfilment v1.0.2.fmf FuSSfilment v2.0.0.fmf FuSSfilment v2.0.1.fmf Change Log v1.0.0 > v1.0.1 Added "Move into channels" to striker. v1.0.1 > v1.0.2 Changes Lowered the Defensive Line. v1.0.2 > v2.0.0 Removed "Work Ball Into Box". Added "Be More Expressive". Added "Get Stuck In". Dropped "Defensive Line" to "Standard". Raised "Line of Engagement" to "Much Higher". v2.0.0 > v2.0.1 Switched "Focus Play Down Left/Right" to "Overlap Left/Right". Switched "Advanced Playermaker (Attack)" to "Advanced Playermarker (Support)". Holiday Results I ran a couple of quick holiday tests this morning as some of you have asked. The rules: Holiday mode only. No transfers. No Saves. No human interference at all (other than to set the tactic to v2.0.1). From 24th June 2019 - 31st May 2020. Please bear in mind that "holiday mode" is crap Your assistant manager will not make good team selections, rotate properly, give good team talks, train the team properly, or manage players individually. You should be doing much better than this. Let me know if you want to see a specific team, these take about 30 minutes to run. Liverpool: Triple - Won Premier League, Won Champions League, Won the Carabao Cup (Could easily have gone undefeated in all competitions with a human manager). Tottenham: Triple - Won Premier League, Won Champions League, Won the Carabao Cup. Bournemouth: Champions League - 4th in Premier League (Could easily have won the league with a human manager). Edited June 8, 2020 by FuSS 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted April 12, 2020 Author Share Posted April 12, 2020 (edited) Human Results - Salford City (First Season) We're going to Europe!! Edited June 8, 2020 by FuSS 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted April 12, 2020 Author Share Posted April 12, 2020 (edited) Human Results - Norwich (First Season) Edited June 8, 2020 by FuSS 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 @FuSS Welcome to FM 20, shame it took a lockdown. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted April 12, 2020 Author Share Posted April 12, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, knap said: @FuSS Welcome to FM 20, shame it took a lockdown. Hey buddy good to see you! Yeah sorry, crazy year for me and the family I'm afraid! I'm just looking around the forums now to see who's still about. Looks like you and Mr U are still active at least You're testing sheet looks interesting - you're welcome to give this a whirl, although I've not actually finished a season yet (whoops!) Edited April 12, 2020 by FuSS 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 @FuSS Are you on MR L Discord? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craglyboy Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Finally!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted April 12, 2020 Author Share Posted April 12, 2020 43 minutes ago, knap said: @FuSS Are you on MR L Discord? Not on discord at all! I really don't game anymore :'( 14 minutes ago, Craglyboy said: Finally!!!! Hey Crag, another blast from the past, nice to see you man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollackattack Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 early couple of games looks promising. stable, solid. shouts really help like you said. who do i take off if red card? i assume opposite foot on the wingers is preferable? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjacopo Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 9 ore fa, FuSS ha scritto: Hey buddy good to see you! Yeah sorry, crazy year for me and the family I'm afraid! I'm just looking around the forums now to see who's still about. Looks like you and Mr U are still active at least You're testing sheet looks interesting - you're welcome to give this a whirl, although I've not actually finished a season yet (whoops!) do you think switching the striker to CF would change the tactic that much? Haaland not scoring at all so far for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas91 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 how it is going your norwich save mate? will see if i give this a go ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
radetzky Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Achievement for sure.... First of all i am glad to see a tactic with IFs working well, modern football belong to IFs and so often this role is not crucial in FM The results speak themselves. Liverpool defeated away both with Salford and with Norwich (by the , have you dropped to cautious in those games?) Just one question even if i guess the answer will be NO, have you played with instant results? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted April 13, 2020 Author Share Posted April 13, 2020 15 hours ago, pollackattack said: early couple of games looks promising. stable, solid. shouts really help like you said. who do i take off if red card? i assume opposite foot on the wingers is preferable? I usually drop the Mezzala if I go down to 10 - but you shouldn't pick up too mnay yellows as I don't use "get stuck in". 15 hours ago, jjacopo said: do you think switching the striker to CF would change the tactic that much? Haaland not scoring at all so far for me You're Inside Forwards will score the majority of goals, which bugs me a little too. I originally set this tactic up with an AF(A) and a Box-to-Box(S), but it works much better with a Striker that drops deeper and mixes things up - a DLF may be a good alternative. 15 hours ago, Jonas91 said: how it is going your norwich save mate? will see if i give this a go ! I'm a local boy so always try and have a Norwich game on the go, but mostly playing with Salford at the moment! 34 minutes ago, radetzky said: Achievement for sure.... First of all i am glad to see a tactic with IFs working well, modern football belong to IFs and so often this role is not crucial in FM The results speak themselves. Liverpool defeated away both with Salford and with Norwich (by the , have you dropped to cautious in those games?) Just one question even if i guess the answer will be NO, have you played with instant results? Well the Liverpool result had some luck to it, as you can see from the stats they were the better side on the day, but not by much - that's football. I shpuld also say that my Salford side has several payers I think would be good enough for the Championship, that said anyone could have loaned these same players. No - I mostly watch full matches, or at the very least extended highlights. I don't think you cna understand how a tactic is working unless you watch the parts of the game that aren't just highlights. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilyes92300 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 oi ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas91 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, ilyes92300 said: oi ? did you read the OP mate? it is there xD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majick Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) Good to see you back - I've found your tactics to be consistently among the best across previous versions. Also delighted to see this particular tactic as it's the same formation (although different player roles) that I've been struggling to get working for my team. Early results are encouraging with 4 wins in 4 and some lovely work from the wingers. The advanced playmaker seems to be getting into position to score from knockdowns as well, which is a nice thing to add as my midfielders this season have struggled with scoring and it's held us back even with Kane and Haaland scoring plenty. You're a lot harsher on your players with team talks then I am - I tend to use 'aggressive' as the nuclear option, but I'll try that out to see what sort of effect it has. I do have a lot of players hovering around a 7 average, so getting them to consistently score above that would be very welcome. Edited April 13, 2020 by Majick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coach vahid Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Glad to see historic contributors back . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
serek Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Damn bro, I still remember your FM2006 and 2007 tactics! I'm gonna start a new save with this one purely out of respect Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arron_ Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 I find that Danilo Cataldi is great for the Mezzala role. Can be picked up for about £5.5M at the start of the game. Found him when I managed Brighton previously and just got him on a new save with West Ham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted April 14, 2020 Author Share Posted April 14, 2020 20 hours ago, Majick said: Good to see you back - I've found your tactics to be consistently among the best across previous versions. Also delighted to see this particular tactic as it's the same formation (although different player roles) that I've been struggling to get working for my team. Early results are encouraging with 4 wins in 4 and some lovely work from the wingers. The advanced playmaker seems to be getting into position to score from knockdowns as well, which is a nice thing to add as my midfielders this season have struggled with scoring and it's held us back even with Kane and Haaland scoring plenty. You're a lot harsher on your players with team talks then I am - I tend to use 'aggressive' as the nuclear option, but I'll try that out to see what sort of effect it has. I do have a lot of players hovering around a 7 average, so getting them to consistently score above that would be very welcome. Very much appreciated. 4 hours ago, coach vahid said: Glad to see historic contributors back . Thank you. 1 hour ago, serek said: Damn bro, I still remember your FM2006 and 2007 tactics! I'm gonna start a new save with this one purely out of respect Haha, I get asked for copies all the time, but I don;t actually keep anything from old FMs. 7 minutes ago, Arron_ said: I find that Danilo Cataldi is great for the Mezzala role. Can be picked up for about £5.5M at the start of the game. Found him when I managed Brighton previously and just got him on a new save with West Ham. Intrigued by this. I find the Mezzala's play is more about disrupting the opposition defence and causing havok, my Mez doesn't actually score or assist much, but I'm happy with the way his play opens up space for the team. That said I don't actually have a good Mez in my team as I originally wanted it to be a box-to-box role, but it just wouldn't work - so I'd love to know more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arron_ Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 @FuSS Maybe because i don't set 'set piece takers' and he is by default free-kick and corner taker that helps with assist and the odd goal from a free-kick which I've seen him score. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majick Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 (edited) I've reached season's end - 18 matches played have brought 46 goals, 16 wins and 2 draws. Not bad! I switched to the tactic a match or two too late, sadly; 3rd in mid-February we'd just lost 3-2 to Chelsea, conceding a late winner. We'd also been turned over by Liverpool a couple of weeks earlier, and our wins were narrower than I cared for. Our first four matches under this tactic brought 4 wins with an 11-2 aggregate score. We then drew 0-0 with Newcastle in a match where they kicked seven shades out of us. After that we won 12 straight matches to reach the Europa final and push Man U all the way in the league, but they were on an incredible run of their own, and while we closed the gap they won the title in the 37th match, before we played out a fairly dull 0-0 at Old Trafford in the last match of the season. The CMs have scored 16 goals in that time - Jack Grealish really seems to like the CM/AP slot, getting 4 goals from there in spite of heavy rotation with 5 CMs vying for the 2 slots. The wingers score well, too - 10 goals, and I lost count of the number of assists that came from crosses to the back post or dribbling into the box. The sole striker doesn't get as involved in the goals as I might have expected; 15 goals from 18 matches, including a hat-trick in one of them. Still a good return, but a definite shift in focus from previous tactics that had made the striker the heavy focus of any and all attacks. I don't mind spreading the load at all (I've even had a few goals from defenders) but it'll take me a little while to not view a strike force of Kane and Haaland as near-guaranteed problem solvers. Now I have to think about whether Oliver Skipp is more likely to get goals than Martin Odegaard - which isn't something I thought I'd have to consider at the start of this season! Now, I have a Europa League final to play against West Ham. Grealish and Odegaard in the middle, I think... EDIT: We didn't turn up and lost 1-0. That's Tottenham for you! Edited April 14, 2020 by Majick 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navarone Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 (edited) My Nottingham Forest team in 2027 are much better than the real life one but we get a draw way to often. Changed to this tactic and followed the teamtalk and shouts too. Two great results against two difficult opponents. Bravo, FuSS!! Ps! I must also mention that I early saw that Man.Utds strikes were getting too many nice passes from Pogba and the other fella and used OI's from around 15 mins. Worked wonders its seems. Edited April 14, 2020 by Navarone No reason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted April 14, 2020 Author Share Posted April 14, 2020 3 hours ago, Majick said: I've reached season's end - 18 matches played have brought 46 goals, 16 wins and 2 draws. Not bad! I switched to the tactic a match or two too late, sadly; 3rd in mid-February we'd just lost 3-2 to Chelsea, conceding a late winner. We'd also been turned over by Liverpool a couple of weeks earlier, and our wins were narrower than I cared for. Our first four matches under this tactic brought 4 wins with an 11-2 aggregate score. We then drew 0-0 with Newcastle in a match where they kicked seven shades out of us. After that we won 12 straight matches to reach the Europa final and push Man U all the way in the league, but they were on an incredible run of their own, and while we closed the gap they won the title in the 37th match, before we played out a fairly dull 0-0 at Old Trafford in the last match of the season. The CMs have scored 16 goals in that time - Jack Grealish really seems to like the CM/AP slot, getting 4 goals from there in spite of heavy rotation with 5 CMs vying for the 2 slots. The wingers score well, too - 10 goals, and I lost count of the number of assists that came from crosses to the back post or dribbling into the box. The sole striker doesn't get as involved in the goals as I might have expected; 15 goals from 18 matches, including a hat-trick in one of them. Still a good return, but a definite shift in focus from previous tactics that had made the striker the heavy focus of any and all attacks. I don't mind spreading the load at all (I've even had a few goals from defenders) but it'll take me a little while to not view a strike force of Kane and Haaland as near-guaranteed problem solvers. Now I have to think about whether Oliver Skipp is more likely to get goals than Martin Odegaard - which isn't something I thought I'd have to consider at the start of this season! Now, I have a Europa League final to play against West Ham. Grealish and Odegaard in the middle, I think... EDIT: We didn't turn up and lost 1-0. That's Tottenham for you! 16 wins and 2 draws from 18, that's bloody good, congrats. I'm experimenting with using a DLF instead of a PF at the moment, might be worth a go. Strikers will get less goals in this tactic, as you say the goals are spread around more, but a deep striker is pretty vital to draw defenders and open up options for the IFs and MCs. Shame about the Europa League final, I always find the AI goes into turbo mode in cup finals - worth mixing things up and trying "Cautious", which I find can open up space behind a packed defense, afew OIs when you're not controlling things work too - see the guy below. 32 minutes ago, Navarone said: My Nottingham Forest team in 2027 are much better than the real life one but we get a draw way to often. Changed to this tactic and followed the teamtalk and shouts too. Two great results against two difficult opponents. Bravo, FuSS!! Ps! I must also mention that I early saw that Man.Utds strikes were getting too many nice passes from Pogba and the other fella and used OI's from around 15 mins. Worked wonders its seems. Great start. Glad to see sensible use of OIs - like I saw, watch for problems, use OIs to solve them if you need to. Two strikers can be an issue with a High Line, but every tactic has weaknesses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navarone Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Where would you put Dele Alli when playing for England? As an inside forward or would he do fine as an advanced playmaker or mezzala? I prefer Rashford and Jancho on the left side and sterling and Lewis-Potter(developed to a world star) on the right side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollackattack Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 so it doesnt seem what i do, what instructions i give or team talks i give. tactic is good, i can see team playing well. but that doesnt matter if my team concedes TONS of goals from set pieces. and i mean TONS. any remedy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas91 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, pollackattack said: so it doesnt seem what i do, what instructions i give or team talks i give. tactic is good, i can see team playing well. but that doesnt matter if my team concedes TONS of goals from set pieces. and i mean TONS. any remedy? you can try and import another tactic defensive set pieces! maybe one of tff or knaps! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas91 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 i didnt had that problem though! of the games i have been testing im scoring many goals from offensive set pieces, and the conceded goals usually are the usual ball above the defenders for a fast striker! which is to be expected cause of the high defensive line! but doesnt matter much if i score more that the opponent ! xD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted April 14, 2020 Author Share Posted April 14, 2020 3 hours ago, Navarone said: Where would you put Dele Alli when playing for England? As an inside forward or would he do fine as an advanced playmaker or mezzala? I prefer Rashford and Jancho on the left side and sterling and Lewis-Potter(developed to a world star) on the right side. I'll have a proper look at his stats tomorrow, but my instinct form real life is that's he's more of a battering ram than a playmaker, so I'd use him in the mezzala role. 46 minutes ago, pollackattack said: so it doesnt seem what i do, what instructions i give or team talks i give. tactic is good, i can see team playing well. but that doesnt matter if my team concedes TONS of goals from set pieces. and i mean TONS. any remedy? I probably concede a few too many indirect free kicks, it's something I should look at in all honesty. I'll analysis the numbers tomorrow and see if there's actually an issue there. 41 minutes ago, Jonas91 said: you can try and import another tactic defensive set pieces! maybe one of tff or knaps! This is a good suggestion. I may look at someone else's defensive set pieces....although I think my offensive ones are pretty damn good? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted April 14, 2020 Author Share Posted April 14, 2020 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Jonas91 said: i didnt had that problem though! of the games i have been testing im scoring many goals from offensive set pieces, and the conceded goals usually are the usual ball above the defenders for a fast striker! which is to be expected cause of the high defensive line! but doesnt matter much if i score more that the opponent ! xD With a high line you want very good positioning, jumping and heading for your CBs....you might think you want speed, but actually it's more important that they win the ball in the air before it ever gets to the floor. I'm not sure if a more aggressive sweeper keeper would help, but I think those settings mostly encourage through balls forward form the keeper, which I'm not keen on. Edited April 14, 2020 by FuSS 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas91 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 45 minutes ago, FuSS said: With a high line you want very good positioning, jumping and heading for your CBs....you might think you want speed, but actually it's more important that they win the ball in the air before it ever gets to the floor. I'm not sure if a more aggressive sweeper keeper would help, but I think those settings mostly encourage through balls forward form the keeper, which I'm not keen on. that is a very good point! i would normally always proritize speedy defenders even if they lacked defensive atributes , instead of slow but good defenders! so defence first, speed later ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted April 15, 2020 Author Share Posted April 15, 2020 9 hours ago, Jonas91 said: that is a very good point! i would normally always proritize speedy defenders even if they lacked defensive atributes , instead of slow but good defenders! so defence first, speed later ! There's a solution for every situation - if you've got balls going over the top, you want to get to them first, that requires jumping and heading. But if that balls a through ball along the ground, then all the jumping and heading in the world won't help, you need players that can run to it first, so acceleration. Like all things in FM there's never a simple answer. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navarone Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 (edited) Very impressed by this tactic. My 1860 Munchen team met big brother Bayern Munchen back in Bundesliga 1. 1860 are favorites for relegation. Changed the mentality to cautious before the game and Bayern never had a chance. Stunning! Edited April 15, 2020 by Navarone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted April 15, 2020 Author Share Posted April 15, 2020 52 minutes ago, Navarone said: Very impressed by this tactic. My 1860 Munchen team met big brother Bayern Munchen back in Bundesliga 1. 1860 are favorites for relegation. Changed the mentality to cautious before the game and Bayern never had a chance. Stunning! Thank you and great result - I read an article on the rise and fall of 1860 Munchen, really interesting club, might give them a go myself at some point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merto54 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 I really impressed it works well for my Sunderland. Will Grigg is on fire now. Great job . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navarone Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 Just now, Merto54 said: I really impressed it works well for my Sunderland. Will Grigg is on fire now. Great job . Watching Sunderland 'til I die season 2 on Netflix now. Sunderland have just bought Grigg for £3 mill from Wigan. They were really desperate for a striker when Maja left for France. Grigg is a good striker for league one but seems like he is struggling to find back to his best form from a few seasons ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merto54 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, Navarone said: Watching Sunderland 'til I die season 2 on Netflix now. Sunderland have just bought Grigg for £3 mill from Wigan. They were really desperate for a striker when Maja left for France. Grigg is a good striker for league one but seems like he is struggling to find back to his best form from a few seasons ago. I started to Sunderland career after watched that show. I think Grigg can play Championship he is better than league 1 level but every striker needs a good Midfielder player always. Football is a Teamwork. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooter6065 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 looks like an interesting tactic. I just started playing FM 20 after years with FM 18. What are you doing with training for this tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majick Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 Not sure what FuSS is doing, but I've found that the training schedules from https://fm-base.co.uk/resources/fm20-training-schedules.479/ have completely eliminated my players' whingeing about training effectiveness - which is really all I'm looking for! In seriousness, I've also found it effective to keep an eye on player injury risk, and make sure anyone with an above average risk does nothing more than normal intensity training. Average or better, they get double intensity. I check on that maybe 2-3 times over the course of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas91 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 14 minutes ago, Majick said: Not sure what FuSS is doing, but I've found that the training schedules from https://fm-base.co.uk/resources/fm20-training-schedules.479/ have completely eliminated my players' whingeing about training effectiveness - which is really all I'm looking for! In seriousness, I've also found it effective to keep an eye on player injury risk, and make sure anyone with an above average risk does nothing more than normal intensity training. Average or better, they get double intensity. I check on that maybe 2-3 times over the course of the season. that's the same training schedules i use ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted April 16, 2020 Author Share Posted April 16, 2020 20 hours ago, shooter6065 said: looks like an interesting tactic. I just started playing FM 20 after years with FM 18. What are you doing with training for this tactic? I tend to find a decent schedule online and download that for general squad training - I'm not an expert. I do find that setting every single player's individual training to the specific position/type of the tactic to be helpful - i.e. don't leave your left back as "DL playing position" actually select "DL > Fullback > Attack" I also put all my players on double intensity training - this has risks - but I tend to heavily rotate a large squad all season, so it fits y style of play. 12 hours ago, Majick said: Not sure what FuSS is doing, but I've found that the training schedules from https://fm-base.co.uk/resources/fm20-training-schedules.479/ have completely eliminated my players' whingeing about training effectiveness - which is really all I'm looking for! In seriousness, I've also found it effective to keep an eye on player injury risk, and make sure anyone with an above average risk does nothing more than normal intensity training. Average or better, they get double intensity. I check on that maybe 2-3 times over the course of the season. Thanks, I'll give these a look too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooter6065 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 thanks for the help! This SI games forum always has some really helpful people like yourself. Keep up the good work! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrikki Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Great to have you back! Best thing to happen in this lockdown! I plan to start using this on my Villa save tonight and see how it goes. Invested heavily in youth and steadily improving and finished runners up in year 2 some how! Now ive hit a bit of a brick wall with consistency and my wingers/inside forwards are really struggling to influence games which is frustrating after heavy investment so i'm hoping this will help whilst keeping the style of football i like. I'll let you know how it goes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
suptirior__ Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 doesn't wrok played 5 lost 3 with tottenham doing everythyng as you say Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
branyik Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Sorry for sounding stupid here. What is the file Fuss info file? and how do I use this in game. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas91 Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 39 minutes ago, branyik said: Sorry for sounding stupid here. What is the file Fuss info file? and how do I use this in game. Thanks is to see our squad info like this! you shoud put the file in DOcuments/Sports Interactiv/ FM 20 / views then on the top left where it says views you import the fmf file from that folder ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas91 Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 1 hour ago, suptirior__ said: doesn't wrok played 5 lost 3 with tottenham doing everythyng as you say can you provide more detais on the not working part? why doesnt work? cant score? conceded a lot? who is your starting eleven? can you post screens? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navarone Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Every team that I take seem to love this tactic. Startet a new save today with Sunderland and they have really startet outstanding. My reserves even beat Stoke away in the league cup which was great. Agressive teamtalk before the game seems to be very important. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
branyik Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Jonas91 said: is to see our squad info like this! you shoud put the file in DOcuments/Sports Interactiv/ FM 20 / views then on the top left where it says views you import the fmf file from that folder ! Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMLCKDWN Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 is this a good tactick for underdog teams ? i want to start a long term carreer in lockdown but whant to use just one tac if its possible ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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