Domathon Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 1. workrate 2.decisions 3.determination 4.natural fitness 5.technique/flair Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prej Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 1. Determination 2. Natural Fitness 3. Decisions 4. Concentration 5. Work Rate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
herne79 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 I only have 3: Determination Consistency Pressure 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Just now, herne79 said: I only have 3: Determination Consistency Pressure He knows 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norfair Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Pressure for sure Determination Team work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 1. Decision 2. Determination 3. Work rate 4. Jumping (for CD) 5. Speed Consistency and playing big games are a plus, but hidden. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansongs Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) Acceleration, Dribbling, Agility (goalkeepers), Jumping Reach (outfield players), Injury Proneness (low!) Edited October 28, 2020 by swansongs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUNT3R Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Decisions Decisions (yes, I am listing it twice) Balance Consistency Determination Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlorianAlbert9 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Important Matches (but it's hidden, so depends on my scout) Decision Tecnique Flair Vision Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich10 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 In no particular order: Decisions Determination Technique Composure Natural fitness Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyro Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Decisions, determination, consistency, natural fitness/ not injury prone, big games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavelberry Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Sneakiness Irritability Showmanship Empathy Reducers 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davehanson Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 On 28/10/2020 at 13:48, herne79 said: I only have 3: Determination Consistency Pressure What do you mean by pressure? Important matches? For me: Decisions Determination Team work Work rate Anticipation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansongs Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Pressure is a separate hidden attribute from Important Matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davehanson Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 36 minutes ago, swansongs said: Pressure is a separate hidden attribute from Important Matches. Do you know what, in all my time playing never knew there was such an attribute. Totally off-topic I guess, but what does it affect and how is it displayed in a scout report? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
herne79 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 1 hour ago, davehanson said: What do you mean by pressure? Important matches? 28 minutes ago, davehanson said: Do you know what, in all my time playing never knew there was such an attribute. Totally off-topic I guess, but what does it affect and how is it displayed in a scout report? There are lots of "hidden" attributes. You won't see values for them in game but if you read your coach reports or scout reports they may allude to them in the text. For example: "He handles pressure well"; "the player lacks consistency"; "the player is prone to injury"; "he is very ambitious" and so on. I personally value consistency and pressure so highly because they affect how consistently players can apply their attributes during matches and how they handle the pressure of different situations. They are attributes which modify the application of other more visible attributes. So a consistent striker will be able to utilise their Finishing attribute on a more regular basis. Likewise a striker who can handle pressure well will thrive in the high pressure environment of the 6 yard box, perhaps keeping his head better and not panicking to get away that all important shot. They affect more than just strikers of course, those are just examples. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansongs Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 42 minutes ago, davehanson said: Do you know what, in all my time playing never knew there was such an attribute. Totally off-topic I guess, but what does it affect and how is it displayed in a scout report? Pressure is the measure of how well a player deals with things like media scrutiny (like a striker during a goal drought), the fans/manager's expectations, the final few games of a title challenging season, stepping up for an important penalty etc. Applies both during matches and in the days leading up to one. Keep an eye on your player's body language. Important Matches is a more static attribute that impacts whether a player will "show up" on a big day, Pressure is a more generalised attribute that should develop over time (hopefully in a positive way, but you never know). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zach314 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 1) Determination 2) Technique 3) Teamwork 4) Work rate 5) Decisions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anagain Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 I often play at a low level. If they can kick a ball I'm happy. I love me a bit of workrate though. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sloak Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 2 hours ago, anagain said: I often play at a low level. If they can kick a ball I'm happy. I love me a bit of workrate though. Kick ball hard, run fast, and jump high, and you shall lead us to promotion my children. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyfon5 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 14 hours ago, davehanson said: Do you know what, in all my time playing never knew there was such an attribute. Totally off-topic I guess, but what does it affect and how is it displayed in a scout report? you can estimate the range of the pressure attribute from their personality and media handling style. Kindly refer to personality and media handling guides on the internet. Another thing to look at is their body language during matches. Someone that is often nervous or apprehensive is very likely to have low pressure attribute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Ace Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Depends on the position really, but the 5 I look for it any player are: 1) Workrate 2) Decisions 3) Determination 4) Anticipation 5) Consistency (no good having a great players who's inconsistent) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impacto Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 I can only speak about the visible attributes: 1. Determination - The first thing I look in a player. Habbit for a long time 2. Natural Fitness - Same. A player below 10 I just don't even bother with. 3. Anticipation - I love intelligent players 4. Decisions - Same 5. Work Rate - Gotta be smart, but gotta work hard as well. Honorable mentions: - Technique - Flair - Vision (only when paired with good passing) 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferrarinseb Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1. Work Rate 2. Anticipation 3. Determination 4. Technique 5. Pressure Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zemahh Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Surprised no one listed Aggression. Quote This reflects a player’s attitude in terms of playing mentality but is not necessarily a dirtiness indicator. A more aggressive player will look to involve himself in every incident, press more often, tackle harder, foul more often, and engage in the ‘darker arts’ of football such as dissent towards officials and foul play. Am I the only one that likes a bunch of bastards? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toffee71 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 For me position dependant especially the technichals, but 1)Teamwork,2) Detemination, 3)Fitness, then 4)Personality 5)Workrate. I like a hard working team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallimuse Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 10 minutes ago, Impacto said: I can only speak about the visible attributes: 1. Determination - The first thing I look in a player. Habbit for a long time 2. Natural Fitness - Same. A player below 10 I just don't even bother with. 3. Anticipation - I love intelligent players 4. Decisions - Same 5. Work Rate - Gotta be smart, but gotta work hard as well. This but instead of number 2 I would have... Composure - I want a player to be comfortable on the ball as I play a passing, slow tempo game keeping possession. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toffee71 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Zemahh said: Surprised no one listed Aggression. Am I the only one that likes a bunch of bastards? Absolutely not each team needs at least one Aggression is top of my list with workrate for my CM/DM and 3rd for my CB, as i said in my last post, for me its very positional dependant, but the middle of the park has to have a lot of bite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harper Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Under 18, from a South American country, and has a goofy computer generated picture. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andros Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Anticipation Decisions Pace Work rate Technique Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanel Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Depends on the position. 1. Determination 2. Off the ball or positioning 3. Passing 4. Acceleration 5. Pace Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overmars Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 My teams almost always end up ranking high in: Pace Acceleration Passing Tackling Work rate I think my teams generally lack in the mental attributes because I buy young players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattias333 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Green ones 😂 boring answer it depends what position and type of player it is. fun answer. A striker who actually has above 15 penalty taking attribute. Flair 20 😍 influence being 15+ determination as I’ve come to learn is kinda important. Vision. Love my creative players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanner Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 I don't look at attributes, i look for personalilites. I need me a 4-6 different types of characters in my team: 1. The party boy - play hard and party hard 2. The professional - yes sir, write your name into the history books and get lots of awards 3. The young rookie - arrogant with a lot of talk but he can produce when it matters on the pitch 4. The player with a chip on his shoulder - Has a point to prove and hates a lot of people. 5. The thoroughbred - He came through the academy and is 100% my boy! 6. The dreamer - his dream is to play for another club which is his home-town team (for example R.Madrid) but he will use my club as a stepping stone towards achieving that dream. All the above when trained correctly, sold or bought at the correct time and given enough game time will help me win trophies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradz FM Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Surprised Off The Ball hasn't been mentioned much 1. Work Rate 2. Decisions 3. Determination 4. Off The Ball 5. Bravery Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fivetwelvepony Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 I am curious about how you all arrived at your answers. I don't mean, "decisions are great because the player will more effectively use their attributes" or something like that. Instead, what I mean is how did you infer that "decisions are great because..."? Is it from watching the games? ("Ooooh, that was a good decision right there.") Inferring from player performance? ("Why is he so fast yet sucks so hard? Must be the poor decisions.") Miles, Rashidi, and/or Zealand told you it was so? I am asking because I've always had a hard time judging the mental attributes and separating the signal from the noise. I know that they are important, and I look for them when buying players, but it's hard to judge how much they matter relative to other attributes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domathon Posted November 3, 2020 Author Share Posted November 3, 2020 guys please only 5 of the main attributes no hidden stats etc, thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domathon Posted November 3, 2020 Author Share Posted November 3, 2020 edit: so interesting to see that many players value decisions so highly as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandonDonovan10 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 long shots Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Ace Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Domathon said: edit: so interesting to see that many players value decisions so highly as well No good having a good player that choses to blast the ball from 40 yards rather than play in a team mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etebaer Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) Decision does not matter if the Player cant go in time where the decisonmaking is needed. For every player aside of the GK and a few of the midfielders speed is very crucial! Bcs it is better to be able to make sometimes the wrong decision than to never get involved in decisionmaking for a lack of speed. Acceleration Pace Tackling Passing Finishing Edited November 3, 2020 by Etebaer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandersson Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Pace Acceleration Anticipation Decisions Off the Ball/Positioning (attacking/defensive players) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moniola Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 In no particular order: Decisions Technique First touch Vision Anticipation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUNT3R Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 14 minutes ago, Etebaer said: Decision does not matter if the Player cant go in time where the decisonmaking is needed. So he needs to be on the bench. Otherwise, he'll need to make decisions. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUNT3R Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 31 minutes ago, Domathon said: guys please only 5 of the main attributes no hidden stats etc, thanks Hidden or not, your thread mentioned attributes. Stats aren't hidden and your post, you didn't want stats, but rather attributes. Wording is important. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagenham_Dave Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Determination Teamwork Workrate Any others depend on position, but those three are always the cornerstone of any team I try and build. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
herne79 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 4 hours ago, fivetwelvepony said: I am curious about how you all arrived at your answers. I don't mean, "decisions are great because the player will more effectively use their attributes" or something like that. Instead, what I mean is how did you infer that "decisions are great because..."? Is it from watching the games? ("Ooooh, that was a good decision right there.") Inferring from player performance? ("Why is he so fast yet sucks so hard? Must be the poor decisions.") Miles, Rashidi, and/or Zealand told you it was so? I am asking because I've always had a hard time judging the mental attributes and separating the signal from the noise. I know that they are important, and I look for them when buying players, but it's hard to judge how much they matter relative to other attributes. Some of it may come down to "DNA". That is having a common theme running throughout your squad, creating an identity as it were. This should ideally be fairly limited - perhaps 3 or 4 common attributes throughout So for example if you want to create a gegenpressing side, you may value Aggression, Workrate and Stamina. Of course different people will have different ideas, but that's the general principle. After that you can break it down further by position / role. So you now have an entire team with good Aggression, Workrate and Stamina but perhaps you want to add in good off the ball, finishing and composure for you striker. Or make sure your inside forward has great dribbling, balance and agility. And so on. You may not even want to have a "DNA" and instead focus purely on each individual player. It's really up to you and what you want from your players. Also, who's Zealand? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagenham_Dave Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 hour ago, herne79 said: Also, who's Zealand? One of the more knowledgeable FM youtubers/streamers. He's posted a lot of good videos explaining how many of the mechanics of the game works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrrelevantLion Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Height Strength Tackling Aggression Bravery Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bamster Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Workrate Teamwork Passing First Touch Strength Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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