SI Staff Freddie Sands Posted November 9, 2020 SI Staff Share Posted November 9, 2020 Please post any specific issues for Netherlands competitions here. This is for any issue which does not relate to data and is for areas such as: - Competition Rules (Leagues and Cups) - Disciplinary Rules - Transfer Rules We would request you all to adhere to the following three point plan when posting in here: - State what you think is specifically wrong in your league. - State how you think it should be working. - State reasons/proof for your corrections/improvements. Please note that specific data issues for Netherlands should be posted in the Database and Research Issues forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Freddie Sands Posted November 10, 2020 Author SI Staff Share Posted November 10, 2020 Known Netherlands issue of note currently: Keuken Kampioen Divisie has relegation enabled Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgelfc1 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 There are no staff at Ajax in the Eredivise, I'm sure this happened on 2019/20 too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Freddie Sands Posted November 10, 2020 Author SI Staff Share Posted November 10, 2020 24 minutes ago, Georgelfc1 said: There are no staff at Ajax in the Eredivise, I'm sure this happened on 2019/20 too? This is more on the data side, but I believe this is a legal requirement for the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smooney6 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 13 hours ago, Freddie Sands said: This is more on the data side, but I believe this is a legal requirement for the game. Is there an option to add fake staff to Ajax? and when you say requirement, can we expect staff at any time in the future? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvriend12 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Its not possible to substitute 5 players in the kkd(2nd dutch division). But In real life its possible Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samelders Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 (edited) 20 hours ago, Freddie Sands said: Known Netherlands issue of note currently: Keuken Kampioen Divisie has relegation enabled Well, truth is, its not enabled for the seasons 2020-2021, 2021-2022 and 2022-2023. Hereafter it is probably enabled since it is one of the ambitions of the Dutch Football Association. https://tweededivisie.nl/nieuws/nog-drie-jaar-geen-reguliere-promotie-uit-tweede-divisie/ Edited November 11, 2020 by Samelders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arjen080600 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 The scheduling of the games is not right. I play the same team on the 1st and on the 9th playing round of the competition and an other team on the 2nd and 11th playing round. In real life you first play all the teams once and then you play them all for the 2nd time. This sometimes changes because of rescheduling, but that isn't the case, it was planned like this from the beginning of the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SillveN Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 (edited) I am managing NAC Breda in Holland's 2nd division and I've been informed two times (first time was once I reached 3rd place in the beginning of the the game) that we've secured PLAYOFFS position this season with still many matches to play and chances to drop to mid table positions, I even got the letters "Pl" next to my team's name. Here is a screenshot: Edited November 12, 2020 by SillveN grammar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
0tto0o Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, SillveN said: I am managing NAC Breda in Holland's 2nd division and I've been informed two times (first time was once I reached 3rd place in the beginning of the the game) that we've secured PLAYOFFS position this season with still many matches to play and chances to drop to mid table positions, I even got the letters "Pl" next to my team's name. Here is a screenshot: Have you perhaps won a period title? From Wikipedia: Quote At the end of each season, the champion and the runner-up of the Eerste Divisie are automatically promoted to the Eredivisie. Seven other clubs enter the Nacompetitie [ˈnaːkɔmpəˌti(t)si], a promotion/relegation playoff that includes the 16th-placed club in the Eredivisie. The following teams qualify for the Nacompetitie: The club with the best record in the "first period" of the season (after 8 rounds). The club with the best record in the "second period" of the season (rounds 9–16). The club with the best record in the "third period" of the season (rounds 17–24). The club with the best record in the "fourth period" of the season (rounds 25–32). The two remaining spots are filled at the season's end by the highest-placed clubs that have not already earned automatic promotion or qualified for the Nacompetitie. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SillveN Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 32 minutes ago, 0tto0o said: Have you perhaps won a period title? From Wikipedia: Wow, I didn't know that. I'm not Dutch. Thanks for this info. Here is my full list of results so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
0tto0o Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, SillveN said: Wow, I didn't know that. I'm not Dutch. Thanks for this info. Here is my full list of results so far. You have a good run there in October, so I think that won you a period title. :-) I can't check it in game right now, but I think that when you go to the league table you should be able to select the period table, just like you would select the home or away games league table. Basically a team can mess up their entire season and be in form for about 8 matches in a row, they still can reach the playoffs by winning a period. I believe somewhere in the early 90's SC Heerenveen managed to finish 15th or 16th, but won a period and got promoted through the playoffs. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Empty Sequence Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 On 11/11/2020 at 15:13, rvriend12 said: Its not possible to substitute 5 players in the kkd(2nd dutch division). But In real life its possible Came here to report the same issue. The game only allows for 3 substitutions to be made in the dutch second division. This should currently be 5 substitutions as the rules have been (temporarily) changed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SillveN Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, 0tto0o said: You have a good run there in October, so I think that won you a period title. :-) I can't check it in game right now, but I think that when you go to the league table you should be able to select the period table, just like you would select the home or away games league table. Basically a team can mess up their entire season and be in form for about 8 matches in a row, they still can reach the playoffs by winning a period. I believe somewhere in the early 90's SC Heerenveen managed to finish 15th or 16th, but won a period and got promoted through the playoffs. You were right Otto0o, thanks for your implication, I've learned one interesting fact about football in Nederlands. I've won even two periods Thanks !!! And thanks to SI for their dedication to include these details. Edited November 12, 2020 by SillveN Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SillveN Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Here I am again, sorry SI. There is a problem with the KIT colors matching in Nederland' second division. When I play away against TELSTAR with NAC Breda, both teams wear white. Proof: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siepe1990 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 (edited) @Freddie Sands, just played my first Play-off game in the Netherlands (post-season, European Places Play-off). Even though the rules state I can use 5 subs like in the regular season, I could only make 3 subs during the game. You can see in the screenshot I subbed three (DR, DCR and AMR) and when wanting to sub a fourth time, I got this message. I checked the rules in-game and they state '12 subs named, maximum 5 used', so it should be working. The 5 sub-rule has been confirmed by the Dutch KNVB for post-season Play-offs as well, so looks like the rules are right, but something in the mechanism behind it isn't. Have got a save game set aside if you need it, it's pre-match, just let me know. Edited November 13, 2020 by Siepe1990 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siepe1990 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 @Freddie Sands, and another one, looks like it's working alright for England (see example of Liverpool further on), so I think it's League Specific. Getting ready for the Play-off Final (nope, didn't throw away the 2-goal lead I had ) and I'm surprised to see 2 of my key-players to be on International Duty for Sweden. If I remember correctly, I think in real life the players would have gotten permission to join the International squad later to be able to end the season. Little proof in my 2nd and 3rd screenshot: Jordan Henderson confirmed in England squad, but still available for Liverpool for the last Premier League match and the CL-final. Both England and Sweden have a match on the 2nd of June, so the situations appear to be equal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
topper32 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 12 minutes ago, Siepe1990 said: @Freddie Sands, just played my first Play-off game in the Netherlands (post-season, European Places Play-off). Even though the rules state I can use 5 subs like in the regular season, I could only make 3 subs during the game. You can see in the screenshot I subbed three (DR, DCR and AMR) and when wanting to sub a fourth time, I got this message. I checked the rules in-game and they state '12 subs named, maximum 5 used', so it should be working. The 5 sub-rule has been confirmed by the Dutch KNVB for post-season Play-offs as well, so looks like the rules are right, but something in the mechanism behind it isn't. Have got a save game set aside if you need it, it's pre-match, just let me know. Could it be that there are only 3 "substitution-windows" and that you have to make your subs (up to 5) in those "windows"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siepe1990 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 1 minute ago, topper32 said: Could it be that there are only 3 "substitution-windows" and that you have to make your subs (up to 5) in those "windows"? Used only 2 "substitution-windows" in the match so far, so even if that rule is in place (I know it is in real life, not sure about in-game), not the case here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koennn Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 On 11/11/2020 at 23:37, arjen080600 said: The scheduling of the games is not right. I play the same team on the 1st and on the 9th playing round of the competition and an other team on the 2nd and 11th playing round. In real life you first play all the teams once and then you play them all for the 2nd time. This sometimes changes because of rescheduling, but that isn't the case, it was planned like this from the beginning of the game. Could this be due to the effects Covid has on the scheduling? The KNVB modified the Eredivisie schedule so that Ajax, PSV, Feyenoord and AZ do not play each other until January (approx. the second half of the season), so these fixtures could hopefully be played with fans attending again. This also means that they will play other teams twice before January and will affect other clubs as well. This might have affected your schedule as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-IceMan Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 (edited) Was told in the data thread to post this here. Playing with Ajax there was a takeover quite quickly (which should be impossible), Think its a known issue already, but doesnt hurt to report it extra i guess. I kept on playing for a while, so the savegame is after the takeover, talks basicly started almost immediately after starting the game (so quite easy to reproduce, even one of the goals is to sell the club quickly). Uploaded a savegame as Ajax-Takeover-T-IceMan.fm (again, after the takeover) Edited November 13, 2020 by T-IceMan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sport Lacost Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 53 minutes ago, T-IceMan said: Was told in the data thread to post this here. Playing with Ajax there was a takeover quite quickly (which should be impossible), Think its a known issue already, but doesnt hurt to report it extra i guess. I kept on playing for a while, so the savegame is after the takeover, talks basicly started almost immediately after starting the game (so quite easy to reproduce, even one of the goals is to sell the club quickly). Uploaded a savegame as Ajax-Takeover-T-IceMan.fm (again, after the takeover) @Kyle Brown is aware of this and looking into it for us 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Jeroen Thijssen Posted November 14, 2020 SI Staff Share Posted November 14, 2020 General question for the players How do the transfers look? Do clubs sign/transfer foreign players or is it still 90% or more just Dutch players? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
^1Not^22^3B^4Reanimated Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Due to licensing issues Ajax has nof staff. But when I untick the checkbox "do not add staffmembers" at the advance setting at starting a game still no randomly generated staff is added to Ajax. When I read the description of this checkbox I would expect to have assistant-managers and so on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattrick Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 On 12/11/2020 at 16:20, Empty Sequence said: Came here to report the same issue. The game only allows for 3 substitutions to be made in the dutch second division. This should currently be 5 substitutions as the rules have been (temporarily) changed. I am experiencing the same issue in the KNVB Beker: only 3 subs there when IRL it has been increased to 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-IceMan Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 (edited) Ive noticed that when the option "play players from first team that arnt match fit in u19" is ticked, players like Stekelenburg (38 year old) and others get matchtime in u19 friendlies, while they shouldnt be able to due to age restrictions. Edited November 15, 2020 by T-IceMan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siepe1990 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 On 14/11/2020 at 14:14, Reddiablo said: General question for the players How do the transfers look? Do clubs sign/transfer foreign players or is it still 90% or more just Dutch players? Am currently in february 2022. Looking back in the Transfer History of the 18 clubs I see nearly all transfer being within Netherlands, so amongst clubs (with the exception of the 'big 3', they buy mostly outside, especially Ajax and PSV). And if players are coming from outside Holland, they are mostly Dutch players returning... Why the question? Should it be more balanced? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koennn Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) On 14/11/2020 at 14:14, Reddiablo said: General question for the players How do the transfers look? Do clubs sign/transfer foreign players or is it still 90% or more just Dutch players? I went on holiday for 7 years to see what happened and it seems that mostly Dutch players are signed (if the foreign import number is correct): Unfortunately, I had activated rolling saves so I cannot supply screenshots from every year, but I added the Ajax transfer history per season as attachments to this post as an example. It seems they lean mostly to Dutch players (a bit too much I think). If necessary, I can also supply saves on dates 31-08-2025, 31-08-2026 and 1-09-2027. Spoiler Edited November 16, 2020 by Koennn Edit: didn't realize I added them all as images. Sorry. Put the Ajax screenshots in a spoiler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Jeroen Thijssen Posted November 16, 2020 SI Staff Share Posted November 16, 2020 13 minutes ago, Koennn said: I went on holiday for 7 years to see what happened and it seems that mostly Dutch players are signed (if the foreign import number is correct): Unfortunately, I had activated rolling saves so I cannot supply screenshots from every year, but I added the Ajax transfer history per season as attachments to this post as an example. It seems they lean mostly to Dutch players (a bit too much I think). If necessary, I can also supply saves on dates 31-08-2025, 31-08-2026 and 1-09-2027. Reveal hidden contents Well, in this save I see 2 signings, 2 foreign 6 signings, 2 foreign 6 signings, 5 foreign (!) 4 signings, 3 foreign 9 signings, 3 foreign THat's not so bad (it does seem to get a bit more Dutch oriented, but there's also regens joining in.....) But it does seem there's still a general trend to sign almost solely Dutch players across the board (so all clubs in the Eredivisie). What can we do about this? @Freddie Sands Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koennn Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 11 minutes ago, Reddiablo said: Well, in this save I see 2 signings, 2 foreign 6 signings, 2 foreign 6 signings, 5 foreign (!) 4 signings, 3 foreign 9 signings, 3 foreign THat's not so bad (it does seem to get a bit more Dutch oriented, but there's also regens joining in.....) But it does seem there's still a general trend to sign almost solely Dutch players across the board (so all clubs in the Eredivisie). What can we do about this? @Freddie Sands Yeah you are right. I think the last two transfer center screenshots (2026-2027 and 2027-2028) skewed the numbers in my head since they have no foreign signings at all. But 22/23 is obviously the other way around with only 1 Dutch signing and 5 foreign ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boon Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 I had a player suspended for a league game after being sent off for the Jong side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pa+rick Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 (edited) Under 21 (Dutch Reserve Competition Eredivisie & Eerste Divisie) They play 28 times against each other. 14 times before the winter and 14 times after the winter. The number 7 in the ''Eredivisie'' will relegate directly; the number 2 will also promote to the Eredivisie. I miss the Reserve leagues Division 2 and 3. ''Jong Heerenveen'' doesn't have the right link with First team SC Heerenveen. Jong Heerenveen is in game an independent team. The names ''Eredivisie and Eerste Divisie'' exist no more. It should be Under 21 Division 1, Under 21 Division 2 --> till U21 Division 4. U18 League The ''Onder 19 2e Divisie B'' should be the ''3e (third) Divisie B). The fourth level (Third Division) is the lowest and exists of two subdivisions (A and B). The first competitionmatch is on 1/8/2020. That is too early. It should be begin september for a normal pre-season periode. I miss the U18-cup Fortuna Wormerveer U18 should be in the ''3e Division A instead of USV Hercules U18. Hercules doesn't play with their U18 in one of these divisions. The names ''Eredivisie and Eerste Divisie'' exist no more. It should be Under 18 Division 1, Under 21 Division 2 --> till U21 Division 4A and B. Edited November 18, 2020 by Pa+rick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Jeroen Thijssen Posted November 18, 2020 SI Staff Share Posted November 18, 2020 12 minutes ago, Pa+rick said: Under 21 (Dutch Reserve Competition Eredivisie & Eerste Divisie) They play 28 times against each other. 14 times before the winter and 14 times after the winter. The number 7 in the ''Eredivisie'' will relegate directly; the number 2 will also promote to the Eredivisie. I miss the Reserve leagues Division 2 and 3. ''Jong Heerenveen'' doesn't have the right link with First team SC Heerenveen. Jong Heerenveen is in game an independent team. The names ''Eredivisie and Eerste Divisie'' exist no more. It should be Under 21 Division I, Under 21 Division 2 --> till U21 Division 4. U18 League The ''Onder 19 2e Divisie B'' should be the ''3e (third) Divisie B). The fourth level (Third Division) is the lowest and exists of two subdivisions (A and B). I miss the U18-cup The names ''Eredivisie and Eerste Divisie'' exist no more. It should be Under 18 Division I, Under 21 Division 2 --> till U21 Division 4A and B. @Freddie Sands @David Siddall - Thanks so far, could you have a look at this one please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zek Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 The Dutch FA decided yesterday there won't be any amateur teams playing in the cup this year due to governmental regulations. Is this going to be reflected in the game too or does it stay as it is now? I'm fine with it either way, but just asking out of curiosity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Jeroen Thijssen Posted November 18, 2020 SI Staff Share Posted November 18, 2020 24 minutes ago, Zek said: The Dutch FA decided yesterday there won't be any amateur teams playing in the cup this year due to governmental regulations. Is this going to be reflected in the game too or does it stay as it is now? I'm fine with it either way, but just asking out of curiosity. No. Won't be changing this anymore at this time... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
He can't believe he's missed it Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Not sure if this should go here or somewhere else, but it relates to Fc Groningen and Arjen Robben. I don't know too much about the league but I don't think this is right, essentially the team are defaulted to a 5-3-2 formation and it means Robben has been an unused sub for most of the season because he's not a formation fit, but that does seem pretty unlikely IRL? thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Womaz Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 On 12/11/2020 at 16:03, SillveN said: You were right Otto0o, thanks for your implication, I've learned one interesting fact about football in Nederlands. I've won even two periods Thanks !!! And thanks to SI for their dedication to include these details. I had this too and was just about to post a possible bug. So if we are playing in a league we know nothing about how are we supposed to know all of these little caveats. I looked in the rules and I could not find the information. I got a message after about 24 games in the Dutch second level saying I had achieved a play off place. It was right I did get into the play offs despite finishing down the league. Is there anywhere in the game where I can find out about the leagues before I start to play them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micsdodo Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 I have notice something about the television money of de keuken kampioen divisie. i got with Telstar in in the first season 1.9 million euro that is really in possible to get for a very small club. in the eredivisie in the netherlands the 18 place got that amount of money. in this article they spoke about 7 million euro for the whole league (exept the second teams of the big teams) (in the article they use the old name of the league, it is a 3 year old article but same tv contract) https://sportnieuws.nl/voetbal/binnenland/nog-steeds-geen-duidelijkheid-tv-geld-degradatie-jupiler-league/ btw i dont know this is the right topic but something is very wrong with the television money here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craduco Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Dutch clubs asking way too much money for players is still a thing sadly. Except for Ajax, PSV, Feyenoord and AZ clubs shouldn't be asking for 20/30 million for a player. 6 to 8 million max would be more realistic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareeh Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 My player got his 11th yellow card, but wasn't suspended for the next game. In the year 22/23 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dropveter Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Hi, as mentioned above Netherlands has a U21 competition with U21* teams instead of the B teams in the "reserve divisie" See below the clubs per Under 21 Division. Sorry, do not seem the be able to make the print smaller *except the clubs who have the jong-team in the football piramide: Az, Ajax, Fc Utrecht, Psv,, Sparta, Volendam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Glennon Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 On 23/11/2020 at 11:57, Craduco said: Dutch clubs asking way too much money for players is still a thing sadly. Except for Ajax, PSV, Feyenoord and AZ clubs shouldn't be asking for 20/30 million for a player. 6 to 8 million max would be more realistic. If you have specific concrete examples of this, please post them over on the Transfers forum. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Glennon Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 On 23/11/2020 at 13:46, Jareeh said: My player got his 11th yellow card, but wasn't suspended for the next game. In the year 22/23 Could you upload a save game that shows this issue? Was he suspended after 5 and 10 cards? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Glennon Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 On 19/11/2020 at 07:59, Womaz said: I had this too and was just about to post a possible bug. So if we are playing in a league we know nothing about how are we supposed to know all of these little caveats. I looked in the rules and I could not find the information. I got a message after about 24 games in the Dutch second level saying I had achieved a play off place. It was right I did get into the play offs despite finishing down the league. Is there anywhere in the game where I can find out about the leagues before I start to play them Yes, every league has a Rules page that explains all of this and the KKD is no different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Glennon Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 13 hours ago, Dropveter said: Hi, as mentioned above Netherlands has a U21 competition with U21* teams instead of the B teams in the "reserve divisie" See below the clubs per Under 21 Division. Sorry, do not seem the be able to make the print smaller *except the clubs who have the jong-team in the football piramide: Az, Ajax, Fc Utrecht, Psv,, Sparta, Volendam I'm not sure what the issue is here. The first two divisions in that image are present in the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dropveter Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, Stephen Glennon said: I'm not sure what the issue is here. The first two divisions in that image are present in the game. Not as a U21 division, - now they still have the age rules from the previous years. Plus, in the new U21 division they play each other 4 times and not 2 as is set now. Source: Adres (knvb.nl) Edited November 25, 2020 by Dropveter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
0tto0o Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 7 hours ago, Dropveter said: Not as a U21 division, - now they still have the age rules from the previous years. Plus, in the new U21 division they play each other 4 times and not 2 as is set now. Source: Adres (knvb.nl) It is a little bit different. Instead of 1 competition in which each team plays each other 4 times, there is a fall and a spring competition in which each teams plays a home and away match against each other and a possible championship match. These are the rules to determine the overall champion from the document in the link above: - If a team wins both the fall and the spring competition, they are also crowned the overall champion. - If the fall champion ends up 7th or 8th (which are the relegation places) in the spring competition, then the spring champion is named overall champion. - If the spring champion was placed 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6th in the fall in the highest division (division 1) or 1st or 2nd in division 2, then the fall and spring champions will play one match on a location which has yet to be determined to decide who will be crowned overall champion. So basically the Fall and the Spring champions will play a deciding match, unless the Fall champion gets relegated in the spring or if both championships are won by the same team. Judging from the 2nd and 3th rule mentioned above, there will also be promotion/relegation at the end of Fall competition. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pefieverwey Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 (edited) Dutch under 18 competition allows 5 players above the age limit (eligible for under 19) in the match squad. Source: KNVB youth competitions information Page 12, paragraph Leeftijdsgrens & dispensatie Edited November 26, 2020 by pefieverwey 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemoche Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 On 23/11/2020 at 12:57, Craduco said: Dutch clubs asking way too much money for players is still a thing sadly. Except for Ajax, PSV, Feyenoord and AZ clubs shouldn't be asking for 20/30 million for a player. 6 to 8 million max would be more realistic. Thank you im ajax i offered for boady they asked for 196m stengs 96m Wijndal 296m wtf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Glennon Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 3 hours ago, Lemoche said: Thank you im ajax i offered for boady they asked for 196m stengs 96m Wijndal 296m wtf This would be an issue for the Transfers forum. Although bear in mind that sometimes teams demand absurd prices as a way of saying 'not for sale'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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