KCHDD Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Hi guys just want a little feedback on my tactics. I am currently lining up like this: DLFat IWa AMsu IFat DLPsu B2B WBsu BPDde CDde FBsu My thinking behind the midfield is that this pairing allows me to inject more dynamism into the middle, while a relatively conservative right back can fill the gap. However, this does bring up the issue of being defensively unstable. Does the creative benefits of using a B2B outweigh the defensive risks? Or would a 4231 strictly require a holding midfield? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
04texag Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 You could put the DLP on defend, leave the B2B, then on the FB s, add the PI's hold position and sits narrow. I'd give that a go with the right players for sure. Although, maybe even one step further, put the right CB on stopper and the left on Cover. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kharza_FM Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 1 hour ago, 04texag said: You could put the DLP on defend, leave the B2B, then on the FB s, add the PI's hold position and sits narrow. I'd give that a go with the right players for sure. Although, maybe even one step further, put the right CB on stopper and the left on Cover. At first glance I would normally totally agree.. the problem is there is no width on the right side in the above.. personally I would release the fullback and have the CM sit and screen. So either a CM-D or a CM-S with "Hold Position" PI to create a double pivot with the DLP who I personally would change to DLP-D as well. Change the right FB to a WB-S and let him overlap the IF-A on the right side. Gives you a nice 2-2-6 in attack. I use this when I want to play on the counter and it is pretty close to the shape I think you are going for. Sit with a 2-2 box and attack with 6.. IFs attacking half space.. fullbacks providing width with a double pivot from the DLP-D and CM-D. You can adjust your front 4 roles as you see fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bezzy1970 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Here you go. Have a read through this 👍 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frukox Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 4 hours ago, KCHDD said: Hi guys just want a little feedback on my tactics. I am currently lining up like this: DLFat IWa AMsu IFat DLPsu B2B WBsu BPDde CDde FBsu My thinking behind the midfield is that this pairing allows me to inject more dynamism into the middle, while a relatively conservative right back can fill the gap. However, this does bring up the issue of being defensively unstable. Does the creative benefits of using a B2B outweigh the defensive risks? Or would a 4231 strictly require a holding midfield? The middle pair should be really good at keeping the ball and your wingers had better have high work-rate for this system to work. Finding space in this system may also be tricky if the opposition sit deep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frukox Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 I think your aim is to outscore your opponent, right?:) because I wouldn't use such an aggressive approach and but if it works, it works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Experienced Defender Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 @klaasjan Sorry, but I had to remove all your posts from this thread. If you want to discuss your own tactic(s), then you have to start your own separate topic. This one is exclusively about the OP's tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Experienced Defender Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 21 hours ago, KCHDD said: DLFat IWa AMsu IFat DLPsu B2B WBsu BPDde CDde FBsu 21 hours ago, KCHDD said: Hi guys just want a little feedback on my tactics Just a quick tip, as I am a bit short of time atm: DLFat IFat AMsu IWsu DLPsu CMde WBsu CDde BPDde FBat You haven't posted your instructions, so I cannot comment on them for now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCHDD Posted December 6, 2020 Author Share Posted December 6, 2020 @Experienced Defender thanks for the advice. Not home atm but my instructions iirc are Shorter passing, Play out of defence, Be more expressive Higher defensive line, Higher line of engagement, Offside trap Positive mentality Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
axehan1 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 3 hours ago, KCHDD said: @Experienced Defender thanks for the advice. Not home atm but my instructions iirc are Shorter passing, Play out of defence, Be more expressive Higher defensive line, Higher line of engagement, Offside trap Positive mentality Drop down to balanced, you'll move the ball around nicely until an opening appears, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Experienced Defender Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 5 hours ago, KCHDD said: Not home atm but my instructions iirc are Shorter passing, Play out of defence, Be more expressive Higher defensive line, Higher line of engagement, Offside trap Positive mentality Instructions look okay to me. Nothing wrong, so only small occasional in-match tweaks should suffice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCHDD Posted December 10, 2020 Author Share Posted December 10, 2020 Having played a few more matches, I have spotted some slight problems in my setup. I feel that my players tend to take long shots more often than I like, kind of impatient I guess like taking one dribble and then shooting when they could pass to someone else making a run. Also, although I do have a high line of engagement, I feel that we aren't proactive enough in the transition phase, like when we lose the ball the opposition can play through our midfield more than I like. I feel like for the long shots I might use work ball into box to alleviate this, I did see that it balances out unnecessary risks brought by be more expressive. Then, I am considering using counter-press but not sure if that leaves me more exposed. What do you guys think about this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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