Reputation and nationality

[Hildor]

I'm wondering if nationality affects from where you get job offers from. I started a save with Canadian nationality in the Canada league and, despite setting my manager option has "looking for a new challenge", in 5 or 6 seasons all I got was one offer from another Canadian team (I have Canada, USA, Mexico and England loaded). 

Also my reputation is stuck on regional, even though I got this trophy cabinet, North American champions league included, guessing this also affects not getting any job offers but feels a bit unrealistic. 

[Amigooo]

Reputation definetly feels unrealistic and could use some tweaking

I could win league and cup for 2-3 years in a row with Atromitos in Greece and still clubs like Olympiakos, AEK or Panathinakos won't hire me as a manager if my nationality is not Greek, basically you need to win everything domestically for few years to get continental reputation and that only applies to stronger leagues I believe

[Marc Vaughan]

I'll take a look at tweaking reputation changes in a future update, thanks for the feedback

[Hildor]

45 minutes ago, Amigooo said:

Reputation definetly feels unrealistic and could use some tweaking

I could win league and cup for 2-3 years in a row with Atromitos in Greece and still clubs like Olympiakos, AEK or Panathinakos won't hire me as a manager if my nationality is not Greek, basically you need to win everything domestically for few years to get continental reputation and that only applies to stronger leagues I believe

Exactly, I've had save in FMM 20 where I would get promotions and cup wins and I was pretty much a nobody. Seems its the same this year for weaker leagues anyway. 

[Hildor]

38 minutes ago, Marc Vaughan said:

I'll take a look at tweaking reputation changes in a future update, thanks for the feedback

Thanks, would be great for us journeyman managers

[Hildor]

Also been testing out starting unemployed with unknown reputation. Started with Argentinian nationality to see if I could get a job in Argentina tier 2 and got zero offers while I got plenty of offers from Germany tier 3, Holland tier 2 and Mexico tier 2, not sure if it's intended but wouldn't it be more realistic for a unknown manager to have more offers in his own country than abroad?

Edited December 6, 2020 by Hildor

[Marc Vaughan]

3 hours ago, Hildor said:

Also been testing out starting unemployed with unknown reputation. Started with Argentinian nationality to see if I could get a job in Argentina tier 2 and got zero offers while I got plenty of offers from Germany tier 3, Holland tier 2 and Mexico tier 2, not sure if it's intended but wouldn't it be more realistic for a unknown manager to have more offers in his own country than abroad?

The reputations will generally mean that you'll find it easier to find jobs at 'home' than abroad, however at the game start different leagues will have different amounts of jobs open and I expect a large factor is simply that there are fewer jobs open for hiring in Argentina at the game start than in some other leagues.

(I'll check into this later - I'm cooking Sunday lunch presently)

[Hildor]

11 minutes ago, Marc Vaughan said:

The reputations will generally mean that you'll find it easier to find jobs at 'home' than abroad, however at the game start different leagues will have different amounts of jobs open and I expect a large factor is simply that there are fewer jobs open for hiring in Argentina at the game start than in some other leagues.

(I'll check into this later - I'm cooking Sunday lunch presently)

I don't actually mean at game start, I applied to every job for a whole season (as a test) in those 4 leagues and that was my result, no one offer from Argentina. 

[Hildor]

Also, is there any difference between unknwon and local reputation when applying for jobs? Did the same test (applying for all jobs for one season) and still didn't get any offer from Argentina) 

[Marc Vaughan]

22 minutes ago, Hildor said:

Also, is there any difference between unknwon and local reputation when applying for jobs? Did the same test (applying for all jobs for one season) and still didn't get any offer from Argentina) 

Unknown is the very lowest possible reputation and local is just above that. 

I'll take a look at Argentina to see if there is anything unique in that setup (I have to admit I tend to manage in England during most of my test games and have limited experience with the Argentinian league myself).

[Hildor]

11 hours ago, Marc Vaughan said:

Unknown is the very lowest possible reputation and local is just above that. 

I'll take a look at Argentina to see if there is anything unique in that setup (I have to admit I tend to manage in England during most of my test games and have limited experience with the Argentinian league myself).

Yes I know, what I mean that if there's any actual difference when applying for jobs, it doesn't seem to be a obvious difference, the job offers I get through a season are pretty much the same teams/leagues, so wondering if it makes any difference at all for unemployed managers. 

[Hildor]

@Marc Vaughan a suggestion:

While creating the manager giving us the option to start, not only with unknown, local or continental, but also regional and national. 

For us that like to start unemployed would give us some diversity and a middle ground, right now all we have is start at the bottom (which is fun) or 90% of the clubs wanting us. 

[Marc Vaughan]

4 hours ago, Hildor said:

@Marc Vaughan a suggestion:

While creating the manager giving us the option to start, not only with unknown, local or continental, but also regional and national. 

For us that like to start unemployed would give us some diversity and a middle ground, right now all we have is start at the bottom (which is fun) or 90% of the clubs wanting us. 

The main reason I have restricted things to these levels is that each has a distinctly different effect upon setup with how the players will behave to you - I felt the levels I allowed to be selected gave fairly intuitive reactions from players and if I added in the other levels then it would become slightly 'murkier' to people in this regard ... 

[Hildor]

52 minutes ago, Marc Vaughan said:

The main reason I have restricted things to these levels is that each has a distinctly different effect upon setup with how the players will behave to you - I felt the levels I allowed to be selected gave fairly intuitive reactions from players and if I added in the other levels then it would become slightly 'murkier' to people in this regard ... 

Hmm I get that but like I posted before, for people who start unemployed unknown and local it's the same when looking for jobs, I've tested both and didn't spot any difference when it comes to job offers, just feel like regional or national would be like a halfway between continental and unknown.