aaannndddiii Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 GOALS GALORE 2009 First of all welcome. Thanks for all the feedback and input for this tactic. It really helps in the developing stage. I think I've develop enough of this tactic. Maybe I will do it in the future if it still got major problems So far I've tested this using Atletico Madrid and Reading and in both games it has been well. I reckon if you're using higher skilled teams this tactic would work as fine (as most tactic is on clubs like Barca or MU). I have no promises on lower division sides. If you're nice to read all that crap then congratz coz you just got yourself a candy :clap: Formation & Team Instruction : • Basically this is a 4-4-2 Diamond tactic which focuses on attacking. • Having normal tempo game; it creates opportunity by passing around between defender-midfielder to make room for strikers to get a good through ball and create good scoring opportunity. Also, it means you will get more control of the game as you'll get most of the possession. • As FM09 is somehow more 'tactical', I use the my own "tweaked 'Rule of Two'" - meaning there's a 2 mentality difference between each position. That way, the ball can be flow from defender to midfielder to striker flawlessly and there's no more that 'too big of a gap between midfielder and defender' comment by the assistant manager. • But don't worry, this tactic will not always play that boring old-Chelsea's-passing-around-until-the-opponent-is-bored way of football, but goals will come from every direction, seriously. I would like to show the 'video' i made from the tactic, but I don't know how to make it as a gif file.. so I guess you have to try it yourself :delighted: . Notes : *Put your pacey on right striker and your 'tall-all-around' striker on the left. *Put best header defender on the right central defender *The playmaker is the AMC; so don't forget to put him on the playmaker box *This (somehow) works best with short pitch Players recommended : Pacey striker : The RIGHT striker. He will having a lot of forward runs to mess up opponent defense and create room for the other striker and AMF to supply a through pass. Best Eg : Aguero, Agbonlahor Big Strong striker : The LEFT striker. Dropping deep on the field. He will flick the ball to the other forward or score goals himself. Most from heading. Best eg : Cardozo is awesome ! :delighted: Creative attacking midfielder: The PLAYMAKER. He must be able to dribble, pass, and score. Creativity, flair, dribbling, passing are the most important aspects. (Matias Fernandez?) Pacey wingers : Well, not really must-have, but having someone who can pass the defender easily from the wings is always a good thing. Best Eg : Walcott, Messi 'Traditional' DMF : A hard-working DMF with good tackling to break down the attack before reaching your defenders as well as help to build up play from back to front. Palombo (?) Pacey fullback : This is A MUST ! Man marking needs high-speed fullbacks. More important from the pacey wingers as they will also run forward to help attacking, and also to run back quickly to prevent counter-attack. If you don't got pacey fullbacks, change the marking into zonal marking. Good defenders and goalkeeper : What's the point of scoring 9 if got conceded 10? :geek: (Lols jk, we will strike 11 goals then !) My current project Finished 7th in my first season in EPL as Reading (it could've been 5th if i didn't got conceded against Liverpool at last minute of the last game) Earlier development of the tactic. My Atletico was the champions of Europe Ahh the best part of the whole thread. The Download Area Goals Galore 2009 Mirror Filefront Goals Galore 2009 Mirror zShare Older version Goals Galore 1.0 -> Removed Goals Galore 1.3 -> Removed Goals Galore 1.5 -> PM to request FAQ Q : Who is the playmaker? A : Well, I've written it. But since I'm so nice I'm gonna tell you again. It's the AMC aka Attacking Midfielder Q: How can i choose the right playmaker? A : The player must be able to play the AMC position (duh) and he must have high creativity and passing as well as the ability to dribble. Q : Where do i put my strikers? A : My recommendation is the fast striker on the right and the all-around one on the left. Q : I don't got pacey fullbacks. What must I do? A : Buy them. lol jk. Change their marking to zonal marking, but I think it would affect the defense. Q : I want my team to play like Arsenal. A : Change the passing to short. Q : Strikers not involved in open plays A : Make them drop deeper. If you got long pitch, lower down the forward runs. (left strike to rarely, right striker to mixed) If you got short pitch, lower down the striker's mentality (-1) Q : Where's the 'away' tactic? A : Since the home tactic itself is still in BETA mode, I haven't really got the time (and willingness) to make the 'away' tactic. But I will tell some changes that might be effective Mentality : Defensive (5 or something)Individual mentality : Each player's mentality -2 or -3 Forward runs for RB and LB to rarely Q: If I got the lead; it's 10 more minutes and the AI is all attacking bonanza. What should i do? A: Set your mentality down to defensive (or ultra-defensive) and waste time often (way too often is fine too :delighted: ) Q : You're cute. Can i get your number? A : ...... Some crappy notes from creator : I know the results hasn't been showing Goals-Galoring, like 8-0 or something back in the original version; that's why I need your feedback and inputs so I can improve it. (Try it for 10 games or so first to get more 'accurate' result. ) Thanks and have fun :delighted: Please do not distribute on other forums without my permission. :devil: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CURRENT VERSION DOWNLOAD DOWNLOAD Goals Galore 2009 Mirror Filefront Goals Galore 2009 Mirror zShare Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaannndddiii Posted November 25, 2008 Author Share Posted November 25, 2008 oh yeah forgot to add. this guy on sortitoutsi and me are the same. some how i can't use the nick koflok here. lol and looking forward for your guys input. i will put it in my to-do-list to always improving this tactic so that it could reach its full potential. thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiminho Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 I have just downloade andwill try with Spurs. At pre-season stage currently having played one season. Before I start though, do you tweak the tactic at all during games? E.G. 2-1 up ten mins to go and the A1 goes 4-2-4, will i stick to the tactic or change to a shut up shop? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaannndddiii Posted November 25, 2008 Author Share Posted November 25, 2008 hmm, yeah you do. i mean it's basic stuffs. if you're almost winning and the AI gone all bonanza attacking just set mentality to defensive and make often time wasting. you might also want to lessen the forward runs and if you're away.. since i haven't made any away tactics just make the mentality defensive. thanks for being the first tester here. cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urlacher54 Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Currently testing it out with Torquay. Will keep you posted. First impressions are that both central midfielders get pulled over to one side which then pulls the FB across as well. This leaves a huge gap down the channels. May need to get the central midfielders to man mark an opposition midfielder each. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaannndddiii Posted November 25, 2008 Author Share Posted November 25, 2008 central midfielders? your midf or opponent's? i might try to work on that gap. for the meanwhile test it for a while and see how it turns out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sm14th Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 I'll give a try im useing the old 08 and its work fine but not gr8 in 09 i hope this one work gr8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sm14th Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 dude can u upload it in diff site i hate filefront its never works with me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaannndddiii Posted November 25, 2008 Author Share Posted November 25, 2008 any suggestion where to upload? rapidshare just give 10 or so download limits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sm14th Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 http://www.zshare.net/ its good hosting site Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urlacher54 Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 central midfielders?your midf or opponent's? i might try to work on that gap. for the meanwhile test it for a while and see how it turns out. My DM and AM get pulled over. I set the Dm to specifically mark the more attacking of thier CM's and the AM to specifically mark the more holding CM and it seemed to stop the flow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aq_extreme Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 I can't download it from filefront. can you upload it to somewhere else? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
homerjnick Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Got beat 6-0 by WBA, I'm Leeds. I'll pass on this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaannndddiii Posted November 25, 2008 Author Share Posted November 25, 2008 okay uploading it. new mirror: Goals Galore 2009 v1.3 (Mirror zShare) homerjnick : well that sucked bad, sorry bout that. guess this is not the right tactic for you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urlacher54 Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Got beat 6-0 by WBA, I'm Leeds.I'll pass on this one. Where did the goals come from. Strikers or midfielders?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sm14th Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 ty mate i'll try it now aginst portsmouth 1st game in the 2nd season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aq_extreme Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 ok thanks mate I'll try it and will be back with some feedback Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaannndddiii Posted November 25, 2008 Author Share Posted November 25, 2008 good luck for all of you and hope it works. looking forward for the feedbacks. thanks~ aq_extreme: fellow Indonesian. lolz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuDi Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 gonna try it with my man city team, before i start are there any oppostion instructions you always do or do you just listen to your assistant manager? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
potemkin125 Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Tried this with Man City. West Brom 2: 0 Man City (two thirty yarders from bednar (long shot rating 7!!!, one on his wrong foot!) Man City 1:0 Wigan (Robinho) Man City 0:0 Portsmouth Playing Robinho behind Vagner Love and Cardozo, but they are creating nada with it and i am losing possession 40:60 in every game. I am in a slump mind you and cant buy a win at the moment so I will persevere with it until i get sacked I reckon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuDi Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 same here with man city played four matchs with this so far: Sheffield Wed 0-1 Man City (dominated match and even when sheff wed lost a man still cudnt get another goal) Man City 1-2 Liverpool (Torres and Gerrard both scored long range goals, i had better possesion of 52% but my goal came in 2nd minute so again a bit poor) Everton 3-3 Man City (Equalised in 90th minute had 57% possesion but defence just opened everytime they attacked even when i set mentality as defensive etc., lucky i had been leading 2-1 from first leg which means i am in League Cup final now ) Man City 0-0 Chelsea (Had 60% possesion again still cant score much but defence played better in this one) Except for the everton match i have been the dominant team using the tactic but just cant score for some reason, i have cardozo as target man and robinho/owen as my fast striker. I matias fernandez as AMC and have van der vaart as back up. If you have any suggestions on better players for these places that i could get for under £20 mill let me know as i am at 25th jan in my season so could get someone in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevchenko Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Just popping in to say, nice post. Will most definitely be giving this a go. I'm a fan of the type of football your formation seems to be trying to create. Ciao for now... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evon Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Tried it and lost. It helps keep possession but weakens my defence and made my team worse overall. I may try this again and tweak it later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimoss_isc Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 What OI do you use with this tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zebanumut Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Before trying it,i must say "every attacking tactic sucks" i hope this will be different Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiminho Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Okay Tested this so far with Spurs in my second season 09-10. Played 4 pre season matches all away, lost the first one then won 3-0, drew 1-1 and won 2-1. Started the season with a Derby against Arsenal and drew 2-2 at home. Then: Hull away 1-1, Oldham away lge cup won 3-0, Preston home won 3-2, Sunderland away won 4-1, Villa home won 3-2. I have stuck totally to this tactic and firmly believe had I shut up shop I would have beaten Hull and Arsenal. Therefore it has worked so far for me, I have 11 from 15 League points and sit 3rd. I will continue to test it but now implement the shut up shop if the A1 goes 4-2-4 or I have a lead with 10-15 to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkabas Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 only two games so far with my Man City team. 4 - 1 against Boro an 3- 1 against hull, but I conceded goals before the firs 5 minutes. So far, so good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyofcricket Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 tried this tactic with barca nd lost 0-1 to espanyol :SS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiminho Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Okay my latest test report does not read so good... Since beating Villa we beat Wigan in league cup 3-2, then the losing streak... Blackburn away 1-3, Chelsea at home 1-2, Liverpool away 1-2 (Lost 3 games) Next game at Reading will let you know. I am going to stick with it ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiminho Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 ...Beat Reading 3-1. On reflection, do you think the Mentality at 16 for the team is too much to be going away to Blackburn then home to Chelsea then away to Liverpool??? Man Utd at home next. Do I go for it? Do I change that mentality? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwizzle Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Tried with West Ham, but only having 4 or 5 shots a game. Just lost to Stoke. It's well hard creating/finding a good tactic with West Ham! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiminho Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Man Utd at home won 1-0 Birmingham away 2-2 West Brom away in cup lost 2-1. I think I have given it a fair go now, P14 W7 D4 L4 F29 A22 How doea this fair with others? I think it seems a decent tactic but just something needs changed to make it tops! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phenomx3 Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 I really like this tactic. Played 5 games with Man City: Everton, away - 2:1 win Chelsea, home - 0:0 draw Bolton, away - 2:0 win Kaiserslautern, home - 0:0 draw Stuttgart, home - 2:0 win Fair enough results have been iffy in places but my word do you dominate the game with this tactic. Always lead in possession, shots (on target, off target and clear cut chances) and pass completion. The strikers seem a bit poor at scoring imo and it has been my AMC, Riquelme who has been rescuing me but I put that down to my squad trying to blend in etc etc. I have tried most of the 4-4-2 tactics so far for FM09 and this is the only one which stands out to me. I always like taking a look at a tactic but then modifying it to my needs. That being said, this won't need much playing around with. I know people expect to download a tactic and then boom, 38 wins in a row with a below average team. Not gonna happen!! Top marks aaannndddiii! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerox007 Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 take off tight marking for the CBs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinli Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 in Sortitoutsi forum i saw a ver 1.5 and tested it and i will like to say 1.3>1.5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaannndddiii Posted November 26, 2008 Author Share Posted November 26, 2008 yeah i just updated it, i will update here also in a momment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleboyc Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 I am just starting a new game. Any thoughts on who i should be? It seems goodtactic but is version 1.3 bad defensivly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleboyc Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Decided to take over Valencia. See how it goes.I will keep you posted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaannndddiii Posted November 26, 2008 Author Share Posted November 26, 2008 Here's my current result.. Just started this afternoon so haven't really got much. Will update it though. Tomorrow or sometime. Got a lot of school project at the moment. LOL This is v1.5 : Both strikers are scoring now. Kevin Doyle plays on right scores 5 goals in 6 games, but he get a lot of opportunities. Jermaine Beckford plays on left and scores 7 goals in 5 games. Hopefully it works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaannndddiii Posted November 26, 2008 Author Share Posted November 26, 2008 littleboyc : right. looking forward for the feedback. thanks I've done little tweak on defensive part of v1.3. This version improve significantly on the defensive from wing attacks. Got 5 straight clean sheet at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleboyc Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 I have got 1 million pounds to spend !?!?! Does anyone know a top notch player i can get for that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennec Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Got beat 6-0 by WBA, I'm Leeds.I'll pass on this one. lmao so fun Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berinho Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Ill give it a try in my current psv eindhoven game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudgx0r Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 who is your all round striker? in athelico and leeds? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaannndddiii Posted November 26, 2008 Author Share Posted November 26, 2008 in atletico vucinic and in reading (not leeds) beckford/doyle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
batty1 Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 i will give it a go with hull in my first season i'll give some feedback soon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phenomx3 Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 V1.5 is immense mate...top work!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
artest Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Er, drew 1-1 away at Birmingham, then trashed Villlarreal 9-1 at home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave byrd Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 If the OP meant goals galore AGAINST he wouldn't be far wrong. This is an ugly tactic that simply invites pressure onto you with a huge hole in the centre of the park that the opposition exploits. Oh, did i say tried this with my treble winning Real Madrid team? Lost more games in a month with this tactic than i had done for the previous 2 seasons. Thanks but no thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMark Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Thanks a lot for this. I'm now crushing MLS with the New England Revolution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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