ygooh7 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 TESTE AND APRECIATE, GOOD FOOTBALL, NO MORE 4-1-2-1-2 WIDE DIAMOND (THANKS GOD) ALL THE CREDITS TO ZEALOT FM21 | Obelisk (4-5-1) by Zealot | Football Manager 2021 Tactics Sharing Section | FM-Arena (fm-arena.com) Obelisk (4-5-1) v1.0.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ygooh7 Posted December 18, 2020 Author Share Posted December 18, 2020 FIRST SEASON USING IR WITH NEWCASTLE, FANTASTIC 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooders11 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 This is working great in my save. Thanks for putting it up. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooders11 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 I won the league with Villa with this. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandersson Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 What skin is that? Looks great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ygooh7 Posted December 19, 2020 Author Share Posted December 19, 2020 2 hours ago, kandersson said: What skin is that? Looks great. the heffem v1.1 in the fmscout 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyDepuydt1 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Amazing tactic mate, ive been using it since the last update and works like a charm 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyDepuydt1 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 (edited) Here the results with Liverpool, not because that's a challenge, but because most other tactic creators show their results with liverpool, and you can compare them better...104 pts, all cups, and 30 clean sheets, only 8 goals against and still best scoring team in the league with more than 100 scored unbeaten season, no losses in premier league or any of the cups Edited December 27, 2020 by DavyDepuydt1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ygooh7 Posted December 27, 2020 Author Share Posted December 27, 2020 4 hours ago, DavyDepuydt1 said: Here the results with Liverpool, not because that's a challenge, but because most other tactic creators show their results with liverpool, and you can compare them better...104 pts, all cups, and 30 clean sheets, only 8 goals against and still best scoring team in the league with more than 100 scored unbeaten season, no losses in premier league or any of the cups wow, just amazing, only 8 goals conceded and no loss, by far the best "nomal" tactic in this ME Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
basheer Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Hi are u guys using the tactic for the latest patch? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyDepuydt1 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Yes, (tactic testing also shows it's working even better on latest patch) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
basheer Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 So far so good.. using liverpool.. first game with arsenal 6-0 win, 3-2 to man utd away game.. 4-0 to leeds home game.. Pls dont say its liverpool u can win everything.. thats not true.. sometimes its the way they play and the satisfaction. I used a tactic called phoenix and won a quadruple with liverpool but i dont feel it.. the satisfaction.. so far this tactic is good 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Africa Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 easiest champion with werder ever 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunster Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 (edited) wrong post mb Edited January 6, 2021 by Gunster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Africa Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 this tactic(away) combined with Knap warrior 442(home) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Africa Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 betis only obelisk used 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbuullddoogg Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Screenshot of the tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ygooh7 Posted January 8, 2021 Author Share Posted January 8, 2021 11 minutes ago, bbuullddoogg said: Screenshot of the tactic? the link has the screens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
|maze| Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 @ygooh7 This was a superb tactic up until the last update, which SI released on thursday. SI loves ruin games. Do you know if the creator will update the tactic? I played FM early on thursday with Newcastle. Everything was fine. Then yesterday I fired up the game, and suddenly everything is ****. Didn’t find out they updated the game until late last night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricketts147 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 I also didnt realise about the update. I was flying in my save, now I cant see to score anymore and draw 0-0 or 1-1 most games. Ah well, back to drawing board to create a new tactic! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roshambo Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 On 09/01/2021 at 19:02, Ricketts147 said: I also didnt realise about the update. I was flying in my save, now I cant see to score anymore and draw 0-0 or 1-1 most games. Ah well, back to drawing board to create a new tactic! Same boat here. Was loving this tactic and suddenly it collapsed like a wet fart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whufc10000 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 (edited) It still works, just switch from "Positive" to "Attacking" I am only playing the Demo, but I'm pretty sure its the latest match engine. Also take into consideration that we dropped 7 points in missed penalties(scored 1 in 5) Edited January 12, 2021 by Whufc10000 Image upload Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whufc10000 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 I'm really surprised this tactic isn't receiving a lot more praise I bought the game and in my first save with West Ham, making only 1 forced transfer in January I came 5th and won the FA Cup. I'm 30 games into season 2 and we are top(although Liverpool have a game in hand) We have the best defence by a mile and a faultless consistency. (I'll upload some images later) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
basheer Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Are u sing on the latest version bro? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooders11 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 I had a lot of joy with this also with West Ham. I'm starting a new save with Malaga so I'll give it a go. Has it been updated at all? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whufc10000 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 21 hours ago, basheer said: Are u sing on the latest version bro? Yeah, all I changed was switch it to "Attacking" and removed the "tackle harder" instructions on all players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudge7 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Was struggling to get anything going (even playing as Hearts in the championship) until I tried this tactic. Changed to attacking - now on a run of 5 straight wins - 4-1, 3-0, 2-0, 2-1, 3-0. Looking good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
radetzky Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Obelisk 451 v1. 0 is the lastest version? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooders11 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 hour ago, radetzky said: Obelisk 451 v1. 0 is the lastest version? It looks that way. I had a search around and couldn't find anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whufc10000 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 So, we won the league in season 2 and we were practically unplayable, conceding only 19 goals in 38 league games and we were the second top scorers. I was looking forward to Champions League football in season 3, but I knew before the season started that we were not going to find it as easy as the previous season. The players seem to have deteriorated from the season before despite winning the league, Caraboa cup and losing out on a Euro Cup final on penalties. I have the same back 6(includes gk) as last season, in fact, all I did was bolster the squad a little with some quality to hopefully progress in the CL, but its like they are playing a different tactic to the previous season and I've also noticed a lot of stupid decisions on the pitch which weren't there previously. Oh well, I suppose I got two decent seasons out of the game, more than I ever expected after deciding to buy the game after giving up on it two releases ago. Unless there was another update, none of it makes any sense. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miky786 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 what tactical style this formation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whufc10000 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 If anyone's interested, I made a tweak that seems to have made a massive difference to my fortunes in season 3 I went back to the previous save where I left off when I was struggling and managed to secure 4th place. I switched the IWB's to WB's and replicated as many instructions I could from one to the other. If anyone want's to have a try I've uploaded it. I also had some success changing the wing back instructions to "defend" to see out tight games and "attack" when needing a goal. Obelisk (4-5-1) v1.0 Tackle AttackWB.fmf 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooders11 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Big fan of this tactic. Did you play Rice as the DM? When i used this as West Ham i just couldn't get good ratings out of him in either midfield positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whufc10000 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 47 minutes ago, gooders11 said: Big fan of this tactic. Did you play Rice as the DM? When i used this as West Ham i just couldn't get good ratings out of him in either midfield positions. Yeah I played him as DM and he averaged just under 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whufc10000 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Season 4 plug and play - Fixtures and Table Only defeat was to Liverpool(we were 2-0 up with 13 minutes left) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whufc10000 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 This tactic is still way ahead of any other tactic I've tried on FM21(although I'm sure the next patch will ruin it) Here's how to use it Underdogs - If you have a poor team for your division use the original tactic from the first post(remove tackle harder) You will definitely overachieve, but it is how much you overachieve and how much you improve your squad that will decide which version you use in season two. If you somehow managed to win the league then you will find that the tactic will struggle in season two and you will either have to switch to the "Attacking" version, which is the original(minus tackle harder) with the only change being team mentality from "positive" to "Attacking" or, if you find that doesn't work you should switch to the "Attacking" version with WB's that I uploaded. Once you have won the league then you are probably going to have to make another switch if you find that both the "Attacking" version and the "Attacking version with WB's" isn't enough anymore then its time to switch to the "Very Attacking with Attacking WB's" version which I have uploaded. Once you are the best team in the World(my Chelsea test - season three) then you should only ever need to use the "Very Attacking with Attacking WB's" version and if you find you have the odd game where you're struggling to win, then its time to employ a couple of opposition instructions for that extra bit of Oomph. First identify the oppositions key players and be sure to use Tackle Harder via the OI's. Then, again identifying the oppositions key players, employ the OI show onto weaker foot(if indeed they have a weaker foot) That is pretty much it, but I have found that the following can also make a significant difference 1. Do not change tactics depending on opposition. It may seem to work at first, but I found that over the course of a season our consistency of results suffered as a consequence. So choose your tactic for that season depending on the criteria I've listed above and stick with it, unless..... your results and performances are dropping, then you probably need to switch to the next more attacking tactic. 2. Unlike past FM's I've noticed that completely changing your whole team from one match to another causes a loss of performance. I used to always have a League 11 and a Cup/Champions League/Euro Cup 11, but that will no longer cut it(I've found) in FM21. Making around 3-4 changes doesn't seem to upset things at all, but once you hit 8 or more changes you might find yourself struggling. In a way this helps because you don't require such a big squad, personally I've gone from 23-24 in past FM's down to 19 or 20 and if you find that you need cover for a couple of positions, grab a couple of players on loan. Obelisk (4-5-1) My Version IWB's Positive Underdogs.fmf Obelisk (4-5-1) My Version IWB's Attacking.fmf Obelisk (4-5-1) My Version with WB's.fmf Obelisk (4-5-1) My Version Very Attacking.fmf 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooders11 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Lovely stuff. This has been one of my favourite tactics this year. At the moment I'm having success with mario edm 442/424. When i get bored with that I'll try your tweaks. COYI's. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whufc10000 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 (edited) Halfway through the season and we have started to draw a lot of matches that we should be winning. I made the choice to go from using Obelisk (4-5-1) My Version IWB's Positive to Obelisk (4-5-1) My Version IWB's Attacking. It's early days but its looking promising. I've uploaded a pic of the league table at halfway through the season to give an idea of what was achieved and a couple of images from the sort of games I was seeing, which made me move up a tactic. Edit - The Villa Palace games(half time) stats I was 0-1 down at half time - The Leeds game stats I lost 1-2 and missed a pen. Edited February 20, 2021 by Whufc10000 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whufc10000 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 First season table and second season table so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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