hm86 Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Hello guys, basically i want to swap all scottish teams to england including junior teams. If i just use the swap option should everything be fine or do i have to change histories or european comps? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmufcwafc Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Make sure that each league has the correct number of teams, if you don't then you won't be able to load up that country when you start a new game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadijk van Kaarhandel Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 I'd be interested in getting a hold of this database, make sure and add the Highland League! If you want any help with research give me a shout. Sounds great. I think i'm right in saying that the histories are taken care of by the new editor, i.e. last position or whatever. And Euro Comps should be okay cos the teams will be marked as entrants already, don't think you'll have an issue. Good luck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foof-1984 Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 yes the highland league should be a must, wouldn mind a crack at that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm86 Posted November 27, 2008 Author Share Posted November 27, 2008 Hello guys, managed to get the DB up and running, to be honest the teams are sort of spread out probably in the totally wrong order. I added all of the Highland league teams, I think I put them all in the Blue Square Premier with some other junior teams. This is just a foundation DB. If anyone wants the DB or even ideas of where certain teams should start off fire me an email or reply to this thread. I can upload this basic DB if someone can tell me how ha ha, sorry!! (You wouldn't believe I work for a Tech Support Dept.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadijk van Kaarhandel Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Good stuff. Can you just let me know how many teams are in each league and i might be able to take a stab at it tomorrow? And is the Blue Square North/South divied up by longitude? If it was then it would kinda be a Dundee and north league (Blue Square North) and Perth and South (Blue Square South). Guess you'd also need some teams below BS N/S for getting promoted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiree_Don Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 I done this with last years game, takes time, but is well worth the effort, espescially after a few seasons when Linlithgow etc start getting promoted to the Premier League. One thing that takes away from any realism is the amount of TV money that teams get given, as smaller teams start spending millions. I countered this by adding huge loans to a lot of the teams for a few years and lowering the reputation of all the leagues. Will take time though, and it's well worth putting the research. A good guide is http://nonleaguescotland.co.uk/index.htm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
feda16 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 any progress on this guys? looking forward to managing wick academy! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadijk van Kaarhandel Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 I was actually thinking that maybe swapping Scotland with another Euro nation would be a better option. That way you can leave England as-is. If there's a Euro Nation with 3 x 18-team leagues then that would work well. What's the Dutch Set-Up? Their deal with the Euro Play-Offs at the end would be nice to play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fairbairn Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 In Holland, you get less teams because it is 1 division of 18 and one of 20. No one gets relegated. Germany has 2 divisions of 18(both Bundesligen) and a division of 20(3.liga) but the cup is err... a bit short on teams. Only 64 teams compete, 1. and 2.Bundesliga teams, plus the top 8 from the 3.liga, 1 team from each Regionalliga and one team from each Oberliga. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadijk van Kaarhandel Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 What about some of the Scandinavian nations? Or Belgium? Would they be any good? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
feda16 Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Have made some changes using England: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cadijk van Kaarhandel Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Hey feda, looks pretty good. One question - what will happen at the end of Season 1 with teams being relegated from BS North/South? Would we see non-league English teams replacing them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
feda16 Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 yea teams below would come from england, never really though of that when i done it! would take far to long to swap EVERY team from scotland to england Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadijk van Kaarhandel Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Do any database boffins know what makes a team come up to the Blue Sq North/South? What criteria does the game look at? Is it done on Reputation for example? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine_iron Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 yea teams below would come from england, never really though of that when i done it! would take far to long to swap EVERY team from scotland to england I dont think it would take too long, a good database takes dedication. I have been working on mine since release, I think its prob 20 hours+ or more so far spent on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
feda16 Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 have to say i admire your commitments to that! what kind of database you working on? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fairbairn Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I am working on swapping Scotland with a country that isn't England. Sometimes when playing in the Second, Third and Conference it just drags on REALLY badly. I was thinking of using Spain, myself. Yeah you can only register 25 players for each squad, but in Spain you can have as many squads as you want, fair enough, there's some restrictions on other squads(any B or C squad cannot have more than 6 over-26 players) but why would you honestly have that many over-26 players in your reserves that aren't transfer listed, negating the need to register them anyways. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadijk van Kaarhandel Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Dave sounds excellent. How far down the Scottish leagues will this go? i.e. Highland League teams? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewbhoy Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 This sounds very interesting, I'd love to get a copy of the database if possible! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fairbairn Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 It will include everyone, including even juniors. If I didn't, I would not have enough teams to do this. I dunno how to sort the regional groups(20 in the first division, 24 in the second, then 4 regional groups of 16 for the third, with 19 regional groups for the fourth), but tbh it doesn't really matter, as I'll assume that game will sort itself out in time since the Scottish places have longitude and lattitude set. Although I dunno how it will react to Berwick if they ended up getting relegated, since they are from England it might not react well. Then again, there's a couple of Welsh teams in Conference South. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fairbairn Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Oh yeah, for the extra teams needed in the Second Division(there's 42 Scottish teams and 44 places in the first and second) I'll be using Celtic Reserves and Spartans. I can't see why anyone would object, as everyone in Berwick assumed it would definately be Spartans to replace Gretna in summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadijk van Kaarhandel Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Dave so do the Regionals feed into the Second Division? How many promotions to the 2nd from each Regional? Sounds fantastic, good luck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fairbairn Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 There is no set number of teams from each division who get promoted. 4 teams from each group go through to a 3 round, 2 leg playoff with the winners getting promoted. I believe it is something like the winner of each group are seeded to the third round, with the others playing 2 rounds of knockout, with the 3rd round being a kinda final with the 4 winners of each second round match taking on the winner of each division. Of course, this means that sometimes there will be no promotions from a certain group, while another group could have 2 or 3 teams promoted. Seems pretty radge, but I guess it's the only way more than 1 team from each division can get a decent chance at promotion. 4 teams get relegated from each third division group, with the 5th from bottom playing a "playout" with a random fourth division team. Kinda like what used to happen between 2nd in Scottish First and 9th from Scottish Premier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadijk van Kaarhandel Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 Hope its going okay Dave, looking fwd to this. If anybody's interested, here's a Kit-Pack for the Highland League teams (home and away for all). As accurate as I could get them, there's a lack of info about some teams on the net but i'm happy with them........... http://rapidshare.com/files/171273661/HFL_Kits.rar.html Sneak Preview....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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