adhikapp Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Frank de Boer surprisingly not persisting with Ryan Babel and Kevin Strootman. Honestly not a clue who'll get cut into 26. Probably Stekelenburg, Timber, Karsdorp, maybe Vilhena & Promes too. Don't know who else. Maybe Dutch people would know more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XuluBak Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Good to see de Boer pulled his head out long enough to include Weghorst. VVD's absence is massive. Would look a strong contender with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzaj Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 what's the deal with not picking Botman? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius1998 Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Isn't Promes under investigation over a stabbing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XuluBak Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 23 minutes ago, Darius1998 said: Isn't Promes under investigation over a stabbing? I'd forgotten about that in the absence of any further news. Seems he was released and nothing came of it. *shrug* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XuluBak Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 30 minutes ago, Hazzaj said: what's the deal with not picking Botman? A truly fantastic question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Can't wait for him to bench De Vrij again because he's not an Ajax product. What a time we live in, when everyone's healthy Holland's 3 best players are all CBs. They don't have a single top class midfielder or striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adhikapp Posted May 14, 2021 Author Share Posted May 14, 2021 I'd argue Frenkie de Jong and Memphis Depay are top players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, adhikapp said: I'd argue Frenkie de Jong and Memphis Depay are top players Fair enough, I also think de Jong has the potential to get there, don't think Depay is a tier1 forward. We've seen this season that all 3 teams those CBs play on completely fall apart in their defensive setups without them. And they play for some of world's best teams. That's a top class player for me. Someone who's indispensible for their team's system at top level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XuluBak Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Tbf, Orange Gini is (or at least has been) a top player. He clearly hasn't been at anywhere near that level wearing red of late. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Haha, Frenkie De Jong is quite clearly a top class midfielder. Outstanding player. He's also in their best three players. Not many can do what he does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Last year, if Depay was fit (he had an ACL injury and so wouldn't have made the competition), I think Holland had a great chance. De Ligt, van Dijk, De Jong, Wijnaldum, Depay is good spine. Depay has played really well and scored a lot since being the main forward. Wijnaldum was carrying a huge goalscoring load too and playing great. The others speak for themselves. But that was under Koeman, who was getting that team to play better than the individual names on the team sheet. Frank de Boer is so unbelievably **** and so I don't think they've got a chance with him as coach. Wouldn't matter if van Dijk was available or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 2 hours ago, adhikapp said: Frank de Boer surprisingly not persisting with Ryan Babel and Kevin Strootman. Honestly not a clue who'll get cut into 26. Probably Stekelenburg, Timber, Karsdorp, maybe Vilhena & Promes too. Don't know who else. Maybe Dutch people would know more. Strootman hasn't been going anywhere for a while. It was more surprising he persisted with him for so long. Babel being dropped is a bit surprised with him constantly selected previously, but seems to be the victim of Gakpo and El Ghazi brought in. 1 hour ago, XuluBak said: I'd forgotten about that in the absence of any further news. Seems he was released and nothing came of it. *shrug* Promes is still being investigated, but there was no reason to keep him behind bars. This will probably end in a civil suit, depending on the outcome of the police work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 1 hour ago, GunmaN1905 said: Can't wait for him to bench De Vrij again because he's not an Ajax product. Didn't know you were so close mates with FdB that you already know his plans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sano Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Noa Lang should always be in 34 man squad after the season he's had. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestbrother Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 I remember when you would see a Dutch squad and fear facing them. This bunch, do they even really exist? Seems like a bunch of ISS names Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Dale Watkins Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 I'm happy for Jeremiah St. Juste. He's now officially the fastest player of the season in the Bundesliga since last weekend, and his ability has grown a lot. I remember when he used to be a liability for the club, but he's turned into a rock in defense while dribbling at high speed to set up an attacking play several times a game. Playing for a club like Mainz and getting called up is a fantastic achievement. I hope he'll make the final squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortie Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 Hope Krul gets the number 1 spot, but he'll likely stick with Cillessen as his mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cartman Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 El Ghazi cut from the squad, just to trigger @Baptista_8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Haha won't trigger me, I've been a big critic of his in the past, although he has had a good season. Half expected him to be cut. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adhikapp Posted May 26, 2021 Author Share Posted May 26, 2021 THE 26 EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIP-GOERS: Keepers : Jasper Cillessen (Valencia), Tim Krul (Norwich City), Maarten Stekelenburg (Ajax) Defenders : Patrick van Aanholt (Crystal Palace), Nathan Aké (Manchester City), Daley Blind (Ajax), Denzel Dumfries (PSV), Matthijs de Ligt (Juventus), Jurriën Timber (Ajax), Joël Veltman (Brighton & Hove Albion), Stefan de Vrij (Internazionale), Owen Wijndal (AZ) Midfielders : Donny van de Beek (Manchester United), Ryan Gravenberch (Ajax), Frenkie de Jong (Barcelona), Davy Klaassen (Ajax), Teun Koopmeiners (AZ), Marten de Roon (Atalanta Bergamo), Georginio Wijnaldum (Liverpool) Forwards : Steven Berghuis (Feyenoord), Memphis Depay (Olympique Lyon), Cody Gakpo (PSV), Luuk de Jong (Sevilla), Donyell Malen (PSV), Quincy Promes (Spartak Moscow), Wout Weghorst (VfL Wolfsburg) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 A solid 17/26 on the Has-Rob1981-heard-of-them-o-meter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Dale Watkins Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Btw, what was the point of that 34-man provisional squad? They didn't even train together once Why didn't they just go with 26 from the start? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Few injury cases. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Dale Watkins Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 22 minutes ago, Wolf_pd said: Few injury cases. Sure, but you could just call up replacements (which they still can do now, up until the tournament starts). This whole provisional squad only makes sense if you can get them together as a group and then make a decision based on training impressions or medical evaluations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 It's also a signal towards those players that they are close to the core squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Dale Watkins Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 1 minute ago, DJ said: It's also a signal towards those players that they are close to the core squad. A phone call would have taken care of that. The only upside I can see is that it signals how close someone is to the rest of the world, possibly increasing their market value and drum up interest, but that shouldn't be the job of the bondscoach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 How many of the Dutch squad are antivaxxers now? Seen a bunch of them rejected vaccines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 No idea. De Ligt says he is pro-vaccination after refusing his vaccination. So it's max 5 On the other hand, at least one player (name unknown atm) has said, he doesn't want to take the risk the vaccine gives him a setback before the tournament, while he doesn't have an issue taking the vaccine after the tournament. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Dale Watkins Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 8 hours ago, Wolf_pd said: No idea. De Ligt says he is pro-vaccination after refusing his vaccination. So it's max 5 On the other hand, at least one player (name unknown atm) has said, he doesn't want to take the risk the vaccine gives him a setback before the tournament, while he doesn't have an issue taking the vaccine after the tournament. I would think that's a fairly common attitude and not entirely unreasonable given the context. These guys aren't just competing against other teams, they're also battling for their place in the line-up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 It seems that De Ligts dad told him he is an idiot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Wolf_pd said: It seems that De Ligts dad told him he is an idiot A player who puts so much of his health in the hands of doctors and other medical specialists rejects a vaccine is very ****ing stupid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Dale Watkins Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 11 hours ago, Crazy_Ivan said: A player who puts so much of his health in the hands of doctors and other medical specialists rejects a vaccine is very ****ing stupid. Naw it's not. It doesn't follow he's anti-science or that under normal circumstances he would also reject the vaccine. All this tells you is that competing in the Euro is a big deal. It's not unreasonable to believe that this is a worthwhile tradeoff: betting the bubble is keeping you safe vs risking side-effects that could potentially set you back at a time where everything needs to be timed to perfection. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 (edited) You're talking absolute codswallop do some ****ing reading on the subject. Why don't you start off with his comments first because what you're saying was not the reason he gave for not getting vaccinated. His opinion btw is as uninformed as yours is. Edited May 31, 2021 by Crazy_Ivan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Btw Weghorst is a noted antivaxxer with some incredibly dumb views on the subject and his decision not to vaccinate has nothing to do with securing his place on the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Malen starts right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 11 hours ago, The Amazing Dale Watkins said: Naw it's not. It doesn't follow he's anti-science or that under normal circumstances he would also reject the vaccine. All this tells you is that competing in the Euro is a big deal. It's not unreasonable to believe that this is a worthwhile tradeoff: betting the bubble is keeping you safe vs risking side-effects that could potentially set you back at a time where everything needs to be timed to perfection. That's not what his reasoning was. He said, he wanted to be boss over own body. Nothing to do with performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Dale Watkins Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 49 minutes ago, Wolf_pd said: That's not what his reasoning was. He said, he wanted to be boss over own body. Nothing to do with performance. ok that sounds a bit more idiotic then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Dale Watkins Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 23 hours ago, Crazy_Ivan said: You're talking absolute codswallop do some ****ing reading on the subject. Why don't you start off with his comments first because what you're saying was not the reason he gave for not getting vaccinated. His opinion btw is as uninformed as yours is. Do you ever get tired of blowing your lid for the most inane reasons? My response was in reference to the (unnamed) player who said he has no problem taking the vaccine after the tournament but doesn't want to risk it now. Maybe de Ligt is an anti-vaxxer, maybe he isn't. He has since claimed that he's going to get his shot as soon as possible. My point was that there are some legit reasons to be at least a bit hesitant for professional athletes on the eve of a big tournament. That Weghorst is a nob is something we see eye to eye on however. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza D Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Does this mean Tim Krul will be the starting GK? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Could be Stekelenburg. But Krul has been decent enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortie Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Krul deserves it form wise for sure Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 He is losing it. Already making a mess of things and his Amsterdam preference is rearing his ugly head again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 He has a legit case for the worst coach in football history, at least on top level. I remember when he had separate film sessions for starters and bench players at Inter. If it was a video analysis session for the starters, no bench players were allowed in the room. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 On 03/06/2021 at 10:53, Crazy_Ivan said: Wow 🤦♂️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 I still remember The Roast of Frank de Boer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 Smells awfully like the success the team had in 2012.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, Wolf_pd said: Smells awfully like the success the team had in 2012.... It really does feels like it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Jeroen Thijssen Posted June 6, 2021 SI Staff Share Posted June 6, 2021 Tonight, another match to bottle as we face Georgia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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