Confused Clarity Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) First we got told she was taking medical advice to not travel. Now she was actually in hospital. Do we need to start preparing ourselves? Edited September 8, 2022 by Confused Clarity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Considering I travel past Buckingham Palace most mornings when going to uni I'm braced for a difficult few days getting through that part of London. Royalists are going to be in overdrive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Isn't there an old myth that if the crows or ravens or whatever leave the tower then tower bridge will collapse? I have a vague memory of being frightened by something along those lines when I was a child. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) Wouldn’t surprise me. I’m sure I saw a stat once like most very elderly widowers often die within a year of their wife/husband of 50/60+ years. Edited October 21, 2021 by PaulHartman71 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Considering how long Prince Philip was kept alive, I'm gonna need a fair few more hospital check ups before I buy she's on her way out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused Clarity Posted October 21, 2021 Author Share Posted October 21, 2021 1 minute ago, skybluedave said: Considering how long Prince Philip was kept alive, I'm gonna need a fair few more hospital check ups before I buy she's on her way out He looked like a zombie by the end. Not sure he was actually alive. Felt very weekend at Bernies! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIR17 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 I dunno, the "in good spirits" thing is usually a bad sign. Mentioning nothing about her condition and only her morale. That was the exact word-for-word language that was used about Prince Philip about 2 weeks before he died. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTHerringbone Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 Wasn't she photographed out on some engagement in the past week or two? Can remember seeing a headline saying it was the first public image of her using a walking stick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tikka Mezzala Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 Champagne on ice. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WLKRAS Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 8 hours ago, Ackter said: Isn't there an old myth that if the crows or ravens or whatever leave the tower then tower bridge will collapse? I have a vague memory of being frightened by something along those lines when I was a child. Yup Quote It is said that the kingdom and the Tower of London will fall if the six resident ravens ever leave the fortress. There are seven ravens at the Tower today — the required six, plus one spare! Charles II is thought to have been the first to insist that the ravens of the Tower be protected after he was warned that the crown and the Tower itself would fall if they left. The King's order was given against the wishes of his astronomer, John Flamsteed, who complained the ravens impeded the business of his observatory in the White Tower. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius_R Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 8 hours ago, Ackter said: Isn't there an old myth that if the crows or ravens or whatever leave the tower then tower bridge will collapse? I have a vague memory of being frightened by something along those lines when I was a child. The legend we learned in school was that when the ravens die or fly away, the Crown will fall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 Obviously wish Lizzy the best with her health, but I think her passing might be the catalyst for Australia to leave the Commonwealth. At this point, it just feels like a matter of formality that we’ve stayed in for so long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikeologist Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Gandy said: Obviously wish Lizzy the best with her health, but I think her passing might be the catalyst for Australia to leave the Commonwealth. At this point, it just feels like a matter of formality that we’ve stayed in for so long. I think it's Barbados that just did move on from having her as Head of State.of course in their case, it's to move on from the legacy of slavery, and The Queen may very well be happy to see them with a new President. You'd imagine Charles as King will be less keen to let Australia go, but after the initial good will generated from the life and death of The Queen, one can see how things could go the Republican route. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 Just now, vikeologist said: I think it's Barbados that just did move on from having her as Head of State.of course in their case, it's to move on from the legacy of slavery, and The Queen may very well be happy to see them with a new President. You'd imagine Charles as King will be less keen to let Australia go, but after the initial good will generated from the life and death of The Queen, one can see how things could go the Republican route. I like the UK, but I really don’t see why we are a part of the Commonwealth, or if it’s really mutually beneficial. I’m even at the point where I’d like to see Western Australia declare independence, but after witnessing Brexit, I’d be more than happy to put that on the back burner for now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikeologist Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Gandy said: I like the UK, but I really don’t see why we are a part of the Commonwealth, or if it’s really mutually beneficial. I’m even at the point where I’d like to see Western Australia declare independence, but after witnessing Brexit, I’d be more than happy to put that on the back burner for now. Oh, I'm with you, and it's hard to know how Charles sees the situation. It may well be a thing where Charles and everybody involved thinks it's time to draw a line under the whole thing. He is obviously a man of strong opinions, and we'll find out wat some of them are when he becomes King. You should be optimistic, I feel. Does anybody know what Commonwealth countries Charles plans to visit early in his reign? I know the first few months of his reign are all planned out, but I've forgotten what it's called. Edited October 22, 2021 by vikeologist Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 I can’t see there being much that Charles can do if it comes to a referendum deciding to leave. I’m pretty sure there’s no British legal authority at the Federal level, so it would just be a matter of formality? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tikka Mezzala Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 That wee sycophant from the BBC will be beside himself right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamf Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 12 minutes ago, Gandy said: I can’t see there being much that Charles can do if it comes to a referendum deciding to leave. I’m pretty sure there’s no British legal authority at the Federal level, so it would just be a matter of formality? Must be surely. Oz has had referendums on it before yeah? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 The last one was 1999, when I was eight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused Clarity Posted October 22, 2021 Author Share Posted October 22, 2021 What an absolutely dreadful man he is. What a ghoul. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTHerringbone Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 What's the actual point of the Commonwealth? Does anyone give a legitimate toss? Are there actually any perks for Commonwealth countries? Seems like a big hairy load of bollocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamf Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 Just now, RTHerringbone said: What's the actual point of the Commonwealth? Does anyone give a legitimate toss? Are there actually any perks for Commonwealth countries? Seems like a big hairy load of bollocks. Gives us a pool of labour we can encourage to move to the UK before "accidentally" deporting them and their offspring decades later? 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bacon Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 The country will go so over the top when she does die. It was bad enough when Philip died. We werent allowed to send non-critical emails at work out of 'respect' 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 I don't think she's about to keel over but they are being a bit weird so something is going on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftback in the changing room Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 When she goes they will have a really hard job drying out Johnson enough so that he can do his job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 27 minutes ago, RTHerringbone said: What's the actual point of the Commonwealth? Does anyone give a legitimate toss? Are there actually any perks for Commonwealth countries? Seems like a big hairy load of bollocks. I think there’s perks for smaller countries. Australia paid AUD$7.2 million into Commonwealth development programs last financial year, so there’s that. I was under the impression that we pay a tax to the Crown, but that’s apparently not true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
profii Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Tikka Mezzala said: Champagne on ice. oof Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cartman Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 I just assumed they had a full time hospital in the palace keeping all these royals alive all year round Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 (edited) She will be ok Edited October 22, 2021 by oche balboa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebsy Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 There's only one man who really knows what's going on, and that's Analog. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tikka Mezzala Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 44 minutes ago, profii said: oof I mean to toast her magnificent service to the realm. She's done so much to promote the Kingdom abroad. Elizabeth will always be my Queen, even when her spirit leaves the realm and ascends to heaven, where she'll continue to watch over us from afar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
profii Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 probably worth clarifying that 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootador Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Paul Bacon said: The country will go so over the top when she does die. It was bad enough when Philip died. We werent allowed to send non-critical emails at work out of 'respect' It is a pretty big deal tbf when the King/Queen dies. I would hope for at least a week's national holiday Edited October 22, 2021 by Bootador Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 probably lucky she's the Queen tbh imagine that being a normal person trying to get an appointment to hospital or even trying to talk to their GP - "yeah, I'll fit you in next Friday, will that do?" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 1 minute ago, TM said: probably lucky she's the Queen tbh imagine that being a normal person trying to get an appointment to hospital or even trying to talk to their GP - "yeah, I'll fit you in next Friday, will that do?" A lot of people, especially older people think because they’re on BUPA they’re safe, but ultimately if the NHS is screwed and you need emergency treatment, you’re screwed too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastRed Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 4 hours ago, Tikka Mezzala said: Champagne on ice. Vodka surely? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 1 hour ago, profii said: probably worth clarifying that I read it your way too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalution Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 I mean I'm pretty sure thats the way he meant it... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 1 hour ago, sebsy said: There's only one man who really knows what's going on, and that's Analog. Well tbf it's a good thing she wasn't in Hereford else we'd already know what the problem was (I know that wasn't Analog but still) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tikka Mezzala Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Rafalution said: I mean I'm pretty sure thats the way he meant it... How dare you doubt my loyalty to the Crown. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 Tikka the Commie Royalist. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sons FC Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 3 hours ago, Gandy said: The last one was 1999, when I was eight What was the question Gandy - stay or leave? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwig Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 Been a pretty hard time for her. Husband died, grandson absconded and son completely falsely accused of being a bit of a badun. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandy Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Sons FC said: What was the question Gandy - stay or leave? I've had to have a look on Google. Apparently some of the people that were in favour of becoming a republic voted no due to the phrasing of the question. A fair amount of people wanted it to be a popular vote, rather than the system we have now where the party can oust the Prime Minister and vote their own leader in. Something similar to what the USA has where the President is. the leader of the party for the term, unless they are impeached or legally removed from office. I think it failed as we couldn't decide how the vote would essentially work, but I have an overwhelming feeling that it would pass if put to the populous again. Quote The Australian republic referendum held on 6 November 1999 was a two-question referendum to amend the Constitution of Australia. The first question asked whether Australia should become a republic with a President appointed by Parliament following a bi-partisan appointment model which had been approved by a half-elected, half-appointed Constitutional Convention held in Canberra in February 1998. The second question, generally deemed to be far less important politically, asked whether Australia should alter the Constitution to insert a preamble. For some years opinion polls had suggested that a majority of the electorate favoured a republic. Nonetheless, the republic referendum was defeated, partly due to division among republicans on the method proposed for selection of the president and dissident republicans subsequently supporting the no campaign. Funnily enough, Western Australia voted in favour of seceding from Australia, but it was rejected by a joint select committee that was set up by the British Parliament to consider the petition, and then decided that the request could not be acted upon because it did not have the support of the Australian federal government, as required by the 1931 Statute of Westminster. Absolute bulls***. Edited October 22, 2021 by Gandy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdBed Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 (edited) Mine and the wife's mothers will be impossible when this happens. I'll really have to bite my tongue. Edited October 22, 2021 by EdBed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WLKRAS Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 37 minutes ago, Tikka Mezzala said: How dare you doubt my loyalty to the Crown. Royalist ey? Gulag... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1985 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 Whilst I bear her (and most of her family) no ill will on a personal level, the institution of monarchy is massively outdated and needs leaving back in the far distant past where it belongs. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tikka Mezzala Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, WLKRAS said: Royalist ey? Gulag... That ain't how autocratic regimes work. I get free passes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
profii Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 I have literally no idea if you are being sincere or not now haha 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WLKRAS Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 18 minutes ago, Tikka Mezzala said: That ain't how autocratic regimes work. I get free passes. What if we start a revolution Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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