koikingu Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 I've noticed that players who draw fouls (even winning penalties or drawing yellow/red cards from opponents) don't get rewarded in terms of their match rating. This seems wrong to me because a tricky inverted winger who gets an opponent full back sent off and wins a penalty has done exactly what you would think his job is, but can still finish the match on 6.4 because he didn't take the penalty and, bizarrely, a dribble ending in a foul doesn't even seem to count as a successful dribble. Is there a reason SI has designed match ratings this way? Is there some exploit this is meant to balance out? Kind of frustrating, as it makes it harder to develop a style of player I really like. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2feet Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Put this post in the features request section? Sounds like a good idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Rowell Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 This is a very good point! In fairness to SI, I think, esp. as they're adding more and more data / analytics as football IRL has evolved that way, it takes time to include this in the player ratings in a way that is balanced. May well be they're working on this and other metrics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2feet Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 There's also an issue with pre-assists. The key pass forward that breaks the defensive line, releasing a player who then crosses for a forward who taps in. That pre-assist doesnt get recognised. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifty Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 8 hours ago, 2feet said: There's also an issue with pre-assists. The key pass forward that breaks the defensive line, releasing a player who then crosses for a forward who taps in. That pre-assist doesnt get recognised. It would count as a key pass no? Or do you mean another new statistic of 'pre-assist'? With regards to OP, I agree being fouled to win a penalty should count as an assist, as should having the shot that deflects off a defender for an own goal. I think getting a better rating for getting someone sent off can be subjective depending on the foul. A tricky dribble leading to a foul, second yellow, yes. Going up for a header and getting smashed by an elbow, no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
autohoratio Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Grifty said: It would count as a key pass no? Or do you mean another new statistic of 'pre-assist'? With regards to OP, I agree being fouled to win a penalty should count as an assist, as should having the shot that deflects off a defender for an own goal. I think getting a better rating for getting someone sent off can be subjective depending on the foul. A tricky dribble leading to a foul, second yellow, yes. Going up for a header and getting smashed by an elbow, no. A key pass is any final pass before a shot (usually one that doesn't lead to a goal). A pre-assist is the final pass to the player who makes the assist. Edited July 27, 2022 by autohoratio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2feet Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Well I had a left back play a pre assist and afterwards his rating didn't budge from 6.3, which was quite annoying because it was a great ball he played through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifty Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 6 hours ago, autohoratio said: A key pass is any final pass before a shot (usually one that doesn't lead to a goal). A pre-assist is the final pass to the player who makes the assist. But is that what FM class as a key pass? Or SofaScore? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rashidi Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 On 28/07/2022 at 00:55, Grifty said: But is that what FM class as a key pass? Or SofaScore? A key pass in FM is one that leads to a shot, the second assist, isn’t in the game, but I remember a few requesting for it a while back. That along with numbers regarding progressive passing that we can filter, would be nice. I would recommend raising this as a feature request if you are keen, I do tend to get annoyed too when a player who spots the pass doesn’t get rewarded via ratings for a second assist. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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