Rocker93 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Yeah, looked for it myself, even necroed some forums - pretty sure it can't be done in editor. There seems to be some kind of background calculation, probably based on league/reputation. It can be easily removed if you have ingame editor of course and I don't think it actually matters for AI led teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted December 5, 2022 Author Share Posted December 5, 2022 51 minutes ago, Rocker93 said: Yeah, looked for it myself, even necroed some forums - pretty sure it can't be done in editor. There seems to be some kind of background calculation, probably based on league/reputation. It can be easily removed if you have ingame editor of course and I don't think it actually matters for AI led teams. I guess it will be down to the player then how he uses it. Save money by not having a package, or spend money by having a package. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlammi Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Hi! i took your level 8 database to my new save game, 145 leagues total. Hopefully it isnt so much laggy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted December 5, 2022 Author Share Posted December 5, 2022 11 minutes ago, jlammi said: Hi! i took your level 8 database to my new save game, 145 leagues total. Hopefully it isnt so much laggy. What do you mean? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlammi Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Just now, lionel messi said: What do you mean? it was lagging last year bit, took ages to load games when adding lot of leagues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted December 5, 2022 Author Share Posted December 5, 2022 1 minute ago, jlammi said: it was lagging last year bit, took ages to load games when adding lot of leagues. Adding what leagues? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlammi Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Just now, lionel messi said: Adding what leagues? I had over 145 leagues on my laptop last year and it was lagging... level 10 wasnt fine but level 8 was so i took now 8 levels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lionel messi Posted December 5, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2022 About 95% complete now. Expected release date 15th,16th December 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell10 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 (edited) Hi, Excited to try this and first time I have downloaded any database like this, so would like to thank you for the hard work. Daft question but I guess there is some regen like players for teams that don't have enough players and no other stats for players etc have been touched its just additional leagues been added? Edited December 7, 2022 by Russell10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cizzu Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Can't fix this annoying issue? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker93 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 57 minutes ago, Russell10 said: Hi, Excited to try this and first time I have downloaded any database like this, so would like to thank you for the hard work. Daft question but I guess there is some regen like players for teams that don't have enough players and no other stats for players etc have been touched its just additional leagues been added? You need to add players during initial setup - with hundreds of teams it would be impossible for creator to add individual players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dℍaisa Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 29 minutes ago, Cizzu said: Can't fix this annoying issue? It's a game bug, they are looking into it. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuniverse Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, Rocker93 said: You need to add players during initial setup - with hundreds of teams it would be impossible for creator to add individual players. @Russell10 make sure you tick "Add Players to Playable Teams" on save set-up as @Rocker93 says. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted December 7, 2022 Author Share Posted December 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, dℍaisa said: It's a game bug, they are looking into it. its impossible to upload save game file because it is above 9.77mb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted December 7, 2022 Author Share Posted December 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Russell10 said: Hi, Excited to try this and first time I have downloaded any database like this, so would like to thank you for the hard work. Daft question but I guess there is some regen like players for teams that don't have enough players and no other stats for players etc have been touched its just additional leagues been added? It goes far beyond of just adding the extra leagues Extra cup added in the full Level 10 version when it is released their will be transfer windows for the lower levels, Loan rules, stadium requirements, awards, prize money etc etc 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cizzu Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 27 minuti fa, dℍaisa ha scritto: It's a game bug, they are looking into it. thanks! hopefully they fix it quickly.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted December 7, 2022 Author Share Posted December 7, 2022 Im about to go into the advanced rules soon boys & girls Does anyone want to help me with a little information i cant find Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dℍaisa Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 23 minutes ago, lionel messi said: its impossible to upload save game file because it is above 9.77mb i have uploaded dont worry. btw we have to upload to oc.sigames.com Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted December 7, 2022 Author Share Posted December 7, 2022 Just now, dℍaisa said: i have uploaded dont worry. btw we have to upload to oc.sigames.com ok good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
agiannop Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 58 minutes ago, lionel messi said: Im about to go into the advanced rules soon boys & girls Does anyone want to help me with a little information i cant find Why don't you fire the question and whoever knows will come back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted December 7, 2022 Author Share Posted December 7, 2022 (edited) On 07/12/2022 at 15:55, agiannop said: Why don't you fire the question and whoever knows will come back I need competion history for the following League Cups. The ones in bold i just need information for the runners-up. Hellenic League Cup Southern Counties East League Cup Western League Cup Edited December 8, 2022 by lionel messi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWoolf Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, lionel messi said: I need competion history for the following League Cups. The ones in bold i just need information for the runners-up. Combined Counties League Cup Presuming you want the CCL's "PREMIER CHALLENGE CUP", here are the extracted data from the website for each of the final matches: Website: Combined Counties League Archive (ccleague.co.uk) Final match result: 21/22: Southall 1-2 Walton & Hersham 20/21: Ascot United 0-0 Redhill (Redhill won 4-2 on pens) 19/20: Does not look like it was completed. The season was abandoned on 26 March 2020. 18/19: CB Hounslow 0-1 Sutton Common Rovers 17/18: Knaphill 3-2 Worcester Park 16/17: Epsom & Ewell 1-4 Westfield 15/16: Camberley Town 1-3 Farnham Town 14/15: Camberley Town 2-1 Colliers Wood Utd 13/14: Hanworth Villa 1-0 Spelthorne Sports 12/13: South Park 0-3 Epsom & Ewell 11/12: Colliers Wood United 0-2 Guernsey 10/11: Sandhurst Town 1-0 Wembley 09/10: Bedfont 0-2 Cove 08/09: Camberley Town 3-0 Worcester Park 07/08: Bedfont Green 2-4 Merstham 06/07: Merstham 4-1 North Greenford United 05/06: Godalming Town 4-0 Merstham 04/05: Merstham 3-0 AFC Guildford 03/04: Nth Greenford Utd 1-4 AFC Wimbledon 02/03: Ash United 0-1 Withdean 2000 01/02: Bedfont 2-3 Cobham Edited December 7, 2022 by MWoolf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henderj Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 5 hours ago, lionel messi said: I need competion history for the following League Cups. The ones in bold i just need information for the runners-up. Combined Counties League Cup Hellenic League Cup Southern Counties East League Cup Spartan South Midlands League Cup United Counties League Cup Wessex League Cup Western League Cup Spartan South Midlands up to 2015-16 (page 149) https://resources.thefa.com/images/ftimages/data/league522238936/26949.pdf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted December 7, 2022 Author Share Posted December 7, 2022 21 minutes ago, MWoolf said: Presuming you want the CCL's "PREMIER CHALLENGE CUP", here are the extracted data from the website for each of the final matches: Website: Combined Counties League Archive (ccleague.co.uk) Final match result: 21/22: Southall 1-2 Walton & Hersham 20/21: Ascot United 0-0 Redhill (Redhill won 4-2 on pens) 19/20: Does not look like it was completed. The season was abandoned on 26 March 2020. 18/19: CB Hounslow 0-1 Sutton Common Rovers 17/18: Knaphill 3-2 Worcester Park 16/17: Epsom & Ewell 1-4 Westfield 15/16: Camberley Town 1-3 Farnham Town 14/15: Camberley Town 2-1 Colliers Wood Utd 13/14: Hanworth Villa 1-0 Spelthorne Sports 12/13: South Park 0-3 Epsom & Ewell 11/12: Colliers Wood United 0-2 Guernsey 10/11: Sandhurst Town 1-0 Wembley 09/10: Bedfont 0-2 Cove 08/09: Camberley Town 3-0 Worcester Park 07/08: Bedfont Green 2-4 Merstham 06/07: Merstham 4-1 North Greenford United 05/06: Godalming Town 4-0 Merstham 04/05: Merstham 3-0 AFC Guildford 03/04: Nth Greenford Utd 1-4 AFC Wimbledon 02/03: Ash United 0-1 Withdean 2000 01/02: Bedfont 2-3 Cobham That is great stuff, that one is now complete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henderj Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 5 hours ago, lionel messi said: I need competion history for the following League Cups. The ones in bold i just need information for the runners-up. Hellenic League Cup Southern Counties East League Cup Spartan South Midlands League Cup United Counties League Cup Wessex League Cup Western League Cup UCL histories including Cups 2011-2020 https://theucl.co.uk/2022/02/09/9-ucl-season-reviews/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted December 7, 2022 Author Share Posted December 7, 2022 28 minutes ago, henderj said: Spartan South Midlands up to 2015-16 (page 149) https://resources.thefa.com/images/ftimages/data/league522238936/26949.pdf Do we know if there is any history before 2002-03 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWoolf Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, lionel messi said: Do we know if there is any history before 2002-03 I can stretch it back to 01/02, but not further: 21/22: Tring Athletic 3-0 Flackwell Heath 20/21: Not competed 19/20: Abandoned at semifinal 18/19: Biggleswade FC 2 - 0 Baldock Town 17/18: Welwyn Garden City 1 - 3 Harpenden Town 16/17: Hoddesdon Town 1 - 0 Wembley 15/16: Welwyn Garden City 0 - 1 Hoddesdon Town 14/15: Berkhamsted 1 - 1 Colney Heath (5-3 penalties) 13/14: Berkhamsted 2 - 2 Ampthill Town (4-5 penalties) 12/13: Aylesbury United 3 - 2 Hadley 11/12: St Margaretsbury 0 - 2 Royston Town 10/11: Colney Heath 2 - 0 Leverstock Green 09/10: Hanwell Town 1 - 2 Aylesbury 08/09: St Margaretsbury 0 - 2 Tring Athletic 07/08: Oxhey Jets 1 - 2 Edgware Town 06/07: Oxhey Jets 0 - 1 Edgware Town 05/06: Oxford City 1 - 0 Leverstock Green 04/05: Harefield United 1 - 2 Potters Bar Town 03/04: Harefield United 1 - 0 Brook House 02/03: Hanwell Town 2 - 0 Harefield United 01/02: Potters Bar Town 0 - 2 St Margaretsbury ETA: best source for early detailed data is here: football.mitoo, but they only go back to 01/02 on cup results. Edited December 7, 2022 by MWoolf Added inbfo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted December 7, 2022 Author Share Posted December 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, MWoolf said: I can stretch it back to 01/02, but not further: 21/22: Tring Athletic 3-0 Flackwell Heath 20/21: Not competed 19/20: Abandoned at semifinal 18/19: Biggleswade FC 2 - 0 Baldock Town 17/18: Welwyn Garden City 1 - 3 Harpenden Town 16/17: Hoddesdon Town 1 - 0 Wembley 15/16: Welwyn Garden City 0 - 1 Hoddesdon Town 14/15: Berkhamsted 1 - 1 Colney Heath (5-3 penalties) 13/14: Berkhamsted 2 - 2 Ampthill Town (4-5 penalties) 12/13: Aylesbury United 3 - 2 Hadley 11/12: St Margaretsbury 0 - 2 Royston Town 10/11: Colney Heath 2 - 0 Leverstock Green 09/10: Hanwell Town 1 - 2 Aylesbury 08/09: St Margaretsbury 0 - 2 Tring Athletic 07/08: Oxhey Jets 1 - 2 Edgware Town 06/07: Oxhey Jets 0 - 1 Edgware Town 05/06: Oxford City 1 - 0 Leverstock Green 04/05: Harefield United 1 - 2 Potters Bar Town 03/04: Harefield United 1 - 0 Brook House 02/03: Hanwell Town 2 - 0 Harefield United 01/02: Potters Bar Town 0 - 2 St Margaretsbury Ok i will consider that one done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted December 7, 2022 Author Share Posted December 7, 2022 24 minutes ago, henderj said: UCL histories including Cups 2011-2020 https://theucl.co.uk/2022/02/09/9-ucl-season-reviews/ i need 1981-2003 for this league I have the winners but not the runners-up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptimusPrime Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 6 hours ago, lionel messi said: i need 1981-2003 for this league I have the winners but not the runners-up https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Counties_League#Recent_champions Any good? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted December 8, 2022 Author Share Posted December 8, 2022 4 hours ago, OptimusPrime said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Counties_League#Recent_champions Any good? Thats the same page i used, have the winners but not the runners-up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted December 8, 2022 Author Share Posted December 8, 2022 I have got a little problem with teams going into wrong leagues at the start of the game. It is only happening in Level 10 Leagues though. I think i can fix it but it will take a bit of time. Every team as at least 1 regional league set at level 10, some have more though if they are close to boundaries. I may have to remove the ones they should not be in at Level 10 for them to start in the correct league at the start of the game and may also have to remove certain league boundaries for it to work proper. For example there is a team called Holland who are from Clacton-on-Sea and play in the Eastern Counties League Division 1 North and they are further south than 4 teams who play in the Eastern Counties League Division 1 South. There is another team who play in the Hellenic League who would be best suited for the Western League due to how far south they are. Its because every team in my database has all regional divisions set the game is adjusting and putting them in the best suited league. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell10 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Is the 8 tiers download not available anymore? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptimusPrime Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Russell10 said: Is the 8 tiers download not available anymore? Should be on the first page Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CricketStump Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 9 hours ago, lionel messi said: Thats the same page i used, have the winners but not the runners-up The 2nd picture of this match programme ebay listing has every final from 1981 up to 2006 - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/114625068329?hash=item1ab02fbd29:g:BLYAAOSwY5Ff~GeV&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAsI1bg4cSm72n9qwrovlrD1ok9axXOOQFioevySSEeGAao1aCMyUmLdIKNjgHXVSMrW3suHatKZ9v%2FQYVeJyYq7Y9KDXrJhJJ3xWJXZKQCJc18tOptyLDUDTKVejMFpAg8qMbu4v2mdw%2B4t9i7cIO%2Fhcjx%2Bxr%2BS08%2Fy%2F5kUmnqKX54aoXNBg7CCkOltqiJvJridscvffWLDlER4H2tTIi5nF%2FapORDxiodg9OYdbx7h4X|tkp%3ABk9SR5SnrrGeYQ I will try and keep looking for the final 5 years you need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CricketStump Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 On 07/12/2022 at 16:06, lionel messi said: I need competion history for the following League Cups. The ones in bold i just need information for the runners-up. Hellenic League Cup Southern Counties East League Cup United Counties League Cup Wessex League Cup Western League Cup Wessex League Cup Finals can be found towards the end of the download on this page - https://www.wessexleague.co.uk/cup-final-programme Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted December 8, 2022 Author Share Posted December 8, 2022 54 minutes ago, CricketStump said: The 2nd picture of this match programme ebay listing has every final from 1981 up to 2006 - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/114625068329?hash=item1ab02fbd29:g:BLYAAOSwY5Ff~GeV&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAsI1bg4cSm72n9qwrovlrD1ok9axXOOQFioevySSEeGAao1aCMyUmLdIKNjgHXVSMrW3suHatKZ9v%2FQYVeJyYq7Y9KDXrJhJJ3xWJXZKQCJc18tOptyLDUDTKVejMFpAg8qMbu4v2mdw%2B4t9i7cIO%2Fhcjx%2Bxr%2BS08%2Fy%2F5kUmnqKX54aoXNBg7CCkOltqiJvJridscvffWLDlER4H2tTIi5nF%2FapORDxiodg9OYdbx7h4X|tkp%3ABk9SR5SnrrGeYQ I will try and keep looking for the final 5 years you need. Thats great stuff, i have all the information i need now for the united counties league cup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted December 8, 2022 Author Share Posted December 8, 2022 Im still having big issues getting teams to start in the correct division at Level 10 at the start of the game. I remember having this issue before with a previous lower league database i did on a past FM but cant remember what i did to solve it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted December 8, 2022 Author Share Posted December 8, 2022 Good News. I have managed to fix the issue by removing the city boundaries for the Leagues. Im confident teams will go into correct leagues even after the 1st season due to every club having regional divisions set. Onto doing other things now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
howabe Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, lionel messi said: Good News. I have managed to fix the issue by removing the city boundaries for the Leagues. Im confident teams will go into correct leagues even after the 1st season due to every club having regional divisions set. Onto doing other things now. Hi, what would happen if an imbalance happens between what regional divisions are set? Let's say 2 teams get promoted from the Spartan South Midlands Premier and 2 get relegated, so it now has 4 spaces, but only 3 teams with it set as the regional division get relegated/promoted from other leagues, so there's 1 more slot that needs filling. With not enough teams with it set as the regional league, it would normally use the geographic boundaries to find a nearby suitable team, right? What happens if no boundaries are set and there isn't a team with the specific league set in its regional divisions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted December 8, 2022 Author Share Posted December 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, howabe said: Hi, what would happen if an imbalance happens between what regional divisions are set? Let's say 2 teams get promoted from the Spartan South Midlands Premier and 2 get relegated, so it now has 4 spaces, but only 3 teams with it set as the regional division get relegated/promoted from other leagues, so there's 1 more slot that needs filling. With not enough teams with it set as the regional league, it would normally use the geographic boundaries to find a nearby suitable team, right? What happens if no boundaries are set and there isn't a team with the specific league set in its regional divisions? Some teams have more than 1 regional league set. I will see what happens at the end of the first season and beyond in a future test, if there is issues i will look into a fix. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted December 9, 2022 Author Share Posted December 9, 2022 In advanced rules now. Minimum stadium requirements put in. Transfer window now put it for Level 7-10. Loan Rules now put it for Level 7-10. Maximum player wage rules put in Level 7-10. onto sorting the playoff rules out now for Level 7-10 so that the highest ranked team plays at home in semi-final & final 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuniverse Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 21 minutes ago, lionel messi said: In advanced rules now. Minimum stadium requirements put in. Transfer window now put it for Level 7-10. Loan Rules now put it for Level 7-10. Maximum player wage rules put in Level 7-10. onto sorting the playoff rules out now for Level 7-10 so that the highest ranked team plays at home in semi-final & final Great work, @lionel messi. I’m looking forward to this. Best wishes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted December 9, 2022 Author Share Posted December 9, 2022 Playoffs now all done. I need to test the Relegation/Promotion playoff to see if it works right. Higher league team plays a lower league team at home for a place in Level 8 for the winner and the loser stays in level 9 or relegates to level 9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted December 9, 2022 Author Share Posted December 9, 2022 Reserve teams not allowed promotion from Level 10 added in. Parent teams of the reserve teams not allowed to be relegated from Level 9 so that they would be in the same leagues as their reserve team added in. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickH Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 I started a save on the Level 8 database using Coggeshall Town - enjoying it so far! Thanks for the hard work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted December 9, 2022 Author Share Posted December 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, RickH said: I started a save on the Level 8 database using Coggeshall Town - enjoying it so far! Thanks for the hard work your welcome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themodelcitizen Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 On 01/12/2022 at 04:53, lionel messi said: I think it is because the award names are too long, it has always been the case with this, if you go under the awards tab on the competion page it should display correctly on there. What team are you? Could be an issue with duplication - if you duplicate "Evostik player of the month" or whatever and change the long name, but don't change the short name ("player of the month"), sometimes it shows up as blank. So you just need to go in, change one letter, then change it back so the game registers a change. Apologies if this has been covered Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted December 10, 2022 Author Share Posted December 10, 2022 League cups now sorted so the final is played on neutral ground rather than home team ground. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NolifeAddict Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Will there be some differences between your file and the england lower leagues created by Dan? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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