animal31 Posted March 3, 2023 Author Share Posted March 3, 2023 We have been updated for the new football manager update still not the final version of the database, but we're getting there https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2941370043 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vakama2619 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Is that version available for non-steam users to download too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
animal31 Posted March 3, 2023 Author Share Posted March 3, 2023 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Vakama2619 said: Is that version available for non-steam users to download too? Yes, ive added it (now) to the main topic Keep in mind that there is a future main database update coming that will contain updates to the MLS, so I will be needing to release this again, presumably multiple times, just in case yall want to start a long term save Edited March 3, 2023 by animal31 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vakama2619 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 (edited) 32 minutes ago, animal31 said: Keep in mind that there is a future main database update coming that will contain updates to the MLS, so I will be needing to release this again, presumably multiple times, just in case yall want to start a long term save Wait is this adding Whitecaps, Montreal and Toronto to this db or smth? Edited March 3, 2023 by Vakama2619 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
animal31 Posted March 3, 2023 Author Share Posted March 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Vakama2619 said: Wait is this adding Whitecaps, Montreal and Toronto to this db or smth? No, sorry I meant the Football Manager default database, the update from Sports Interactive. Theyre going to be doing MLS transfers and stuff like that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vakama2619 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Oh 💀 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
animal31 Posted March 27, 2023 Author Share Posted March 27, 2023 There are now well over 600 teams Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigMattic1 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 9 minutes ago, animal31 said: There are now well over 600 teams If you wanted them for a future file, I can provide you with a file containing only the CCAA teams and Manitoba Major Soccer League teams (all 73 of them if you don't already have them). I also have the Manitoban high school teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
animal31 Posted March 27, 2023 Author Share Posted March 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, EnigMattic1 said: If you wanted them for a future file, I can provide you with a file containing only the CCAA teams and Manitoba Major Soccer League teams (all 73 of them if you don't already have them). I also have the Manitoban high school teams. Unfortunately ive already added the teams from the CCAA and MMSL, among others of course The work now is just getting the leagues to work the way I want them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
animal31 Posted March 28, 2023 Author Share Posted March 28, 2023 There will now be 4 tiers of soccer The professional Tier the Competitive Tier The Local Tier and the School Tier The professional tier is being decreased from 112 teams to 96, meaning Division 4 is now only East West. These teams will play for the Christine Sinclair Cup, like the FA Trophy To compensate, the Competitive Amateur tier will now contain the next 3 divisions, which will increase their size from 10 to 12, but play less interplay games. These teams will play for the Julia Grosso cup, like the FA Vase The Local tier will then decrease their sizes, now being roughly 8 teams per league. There will never be interplay here, and teams will go straight up and straight down, to decrease the number of games in the system. However they will play for the new Jade Rose Cup, like the real world Canadian Challenge Cup The School tier is roughly the same, but will be now split into 2 levels with promotion relegation, bringing the total number of playable levels to 12, with two seasons of play, one for the Fall Semester, one for the Spring Semester. The newest change will be that age calculation is done September 1st, which means players will become ineligible for USports play, but remain eligible for split league play, like SFU competing in the U23 Premier League. Unfortunately this is the best compromise I can achieve in the Football Manager engine I will TRY to fix the youth leagues, and make it so only the Professional Tier and the top level USports teams compete in the sliced leagues, but this may get screwy when teams get relegated, but not their U23 or U20/U18 teams. But this will decrease the total number of games simulated, and save money on travel for amateur teams that are in the bottom of the leagues no one cares about, while giving more games to top prospects. In addition, there will be 3 levels for youth teams in their local groups, meaning teams will no longer be cursed to have to play in the game group as the Whitecaps, TFC, and Montreal, when they dont even have players, so there will be less 21-0 drummings of North Surrey FC, for example from my save as the Whitecaps (I had a goal differential of 122). Itll now be Whitecaps, Vancouver FC, Pacific, Cavalry, FC Edmonton, Valour, and Prarieland FC in a group, with teams like TSS, Victoria Highlanders, Bayern Burnaby, Fraser Valley FC, and Surrey United rotating in and out, This will further increase the quality of competition for top prospects, while still giving teams games to play for fitness, and allow for variety in groups, so they arent static Theoretically this will be between West, Ontario, and East, otherwise the eastern Group will be trying to fit all of TFC, Montreal, Forge, York, Windsor, Ottawa Fury, Athletico Ottawa, and Halifax in, with 2 of those teams being relegated every year. East will be a little weak, but thats okay, the extra playing time will helps teams get better hopefully Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
animal31 Posted March 29, 2023 Author Share Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) Updated to 23.4, raw file is in the main post Edited March 29, 2023 by animal31 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capitao Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 lets try this, thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
animal31 Posted April 3, 2023 Author Share Posted April 3, 2023 Ive decided to table the increase in the number provincial cups as its just too unbalanced, theres only 40 teams between Alberta and Saskatewan but 140 in BC, and 80 in Manitoba, and the Ontario cup is already the Ontario League cup Instead ill just be doing league cups, and expanding the regional cups; The 3 MLS teams will obviously win the top level, but ill create 3 additional levels. Itll decrease the number of cup winners originally planned, limiting reputation growth, but its the best compromise I think 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabbos81 Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 Absolutly brilliant, amazing Work Sir 🫶👏👏👏 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
animal31 Posted April 17, 2023 Author Share Posted April 17, 2023 Just talking about season schedules once more Not including Europe, an EPL team is asked to play 40 games, 38 league, 2 cups, and is expected to win at least one of those cup games before losing to EPL Opponents, so 42 games. Across the 2 cups, the top EPL team if they win everything, is asked to play 13 extra games plus the community shield, or 52 total games. They might lose in the EFL cup and have 5 less games to play or whatever, but they in theory could be playing 52. Germany may play a maximum of 41, and so does do the Canadian MLS teams. I want to push towards 48 games for both the MLS and professional CPL teams In the current version of the Database, an MLS team might play 9 or 8 Canadian games, 1 obviously has to lose in the Canadian Championship semi finals, in addition to the 4 MLS cup games they may have to play, in a 34 game schedule, pushing it up to 47 or more likely 46 with the bye. My goal is to try to find a way to get those 2 extra games against CPL teams, preferably against rivals. This was originally going to be against their provincial cup opponents, but since that would lead to an unbalanced schedule for everyone except Vancouver, im going to rework it. Assuming the MLS teams have to play every single game, even the extra 2 games in the Canadian Championship, this will put their season at 51 games, the EPL limit, but 48 is expected, considering they have 3 possible bye rounds The CPL teams on the other hand were scheduled to play 30 league games, which will of course be unchanged. And of course it depends on who plays who in what cup, but 3 of the CPL teams would be making the finals in the regional cups, to play 4 games, plus the league cup, the Sinclair Cup, which gets them another 3 or 4, and the winner of that gets to play 3 games in the Canadian Championship, while 2-5 play 4, and 6-9 play 3 unless they win everything, in which case its an extra game or 2 depending on where they start. The reasonable expectation is that they will max out at 42 or 41 games, while a team that loses in the Sinclair cup final, but wins the championship plays 44. Id like to add 6 games to the schedule. This would bring the Top CPL team to 48, the 2nd to 49, and a maximum run of 52 games for a bottom placed team (5 in the Sinclair Cup, 6 in the Championship, 4 in the Regional Cup, plus 6 new games, plus Canadian Open). However, as they are a bottom team, this is more akin to the Championship where they play 48 games in a league season, and Lower EPL teams if they win in the EFC Cup bringing their season to 52. If you go on such a run, its your own fault. These teams should be expected to play 40 games, which is akin to the 42 in the EPL. Not every team will play these 6 new games, obviously, as they will be additional rounds in a cup, but itll give teams extra home games, so they will have similar opportunity for gate receipts and hopefully reputation 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtown1414 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Can't get it to work on the latest version? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
animal31 Posted April 18, 2023 Author Share Posted April 18, 2023 On 17/04/2023 at 11:47, dtown1414 said: Can't get it to work on the latest version? What error are you encountering? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
animal31 Posted May 12, 2023 Author Share Posted May 12, 2023 Apparently 23.5 is out? I havnt been able to download it yet, so im not sure if I need to release another version of this or not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vakama2619 Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 I don't actually think it's a major update, just a fix with the Chinese Leagues Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph54 Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 Maybe got an idea for adding some games... maybe if your able to tweak the League Cup between MLS and Liga MX by adding CPL team by two way: 1. A qualification for League Cup between canadian team( except the 3 MLS club) (and maybe adding some second divisons team) to maybe reward few teams who will participate to League Cup 2. Add all 16 CPL teams to League Cup directly. Dont know how it will working. But maybe a 64 clubs format with robin round will do it. I know there 47 club right now so with adding one another club( USL champions or liga expansion winner) it would be possible I think it will be a nice addition, because i would like to see more intra-league game, The champions league is not enough because it's juste the best team and not easy to compare average team from each league. it could also help to increase( or decrease) the reputation of each club. If you need other idea i would love to contribuate. Love this save, im now in 2050 and have great expectation for the World Cup, currently ranking 15th in the World. At first I thought I was a good idea, but right now doesnt really like it. I dont like the bench rule to have a U18 and 3 U21. Sometimes it's annoying when you a U23 or U20 games the same day. Also, when you have a good depth squad its limiting options. Like i said, love this save Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
animal31 Posted May 13, 2023 Author Share Posted May 13, 2023 To give my thought process behind the 8+3U21+1U18 bench rule First, theres a U21 mandate in the real world CPL, but I think its a bit silly to have in game in the year 2050, so I just made it a number of U21 in the squad, Minutes is a fairly complicated rule, so to keep things simple, I just give teams extra slots for U21 players if they want them, while still having a full squad of O21 players. Second, The MLS, Bundesliga, and EPL are all 5 from 9 subs 7 bench is effectively dead, good riddance. With 8 on the bench, you can carry a GK, LB, CB, RB, MC, LW, RW, and STR. Instead of having to double dip your wingers, or fullbacks, or just not carry a goalie, 9 lets you cover the case where you play with 2 different midfield spots, like a 433 or 4231, which is really powerful But in Italy its 5 from 12, which is backups for your entire 11, plus a 3rd striker, or 3rd keeper, or whatever you want to do, however they also reportedly want to do 5 from 15, which is nuts, In my mind thats too much, so I compromise on 5 from 8 or 9 So first, you get your 8, to cover the 442 positions that you need to. If you want to carry a backup for every position, you have to have a U21 in the squad somewhere, up to 3. If you want to then also carry your 3rd striker or 3rd keeper, or whatever else you feel you might need in a given match, you must have a U18 player in the squad somewhere. which also counts as a U21, which bumps that number up to 4 Without any youth in your squad, you're basically playing 5 from 8 With 4 youth however, you can play 5 from 12 Hopefully that makes sense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
animal31 Posted June 4, 2023 Author Share Posted June 4, 2023 So a dumb thing about me is I have no idea how Quebec works cause I cant speak french but apparently in Quebec "College" refers to schools for 17 and 18 year olds, as a grade 12, grade 13 situation prior to going onto University, as their highschools end at grade 11 So, despite saying ive added CCHA schools to the game, that doesnt include Quebec colleges that are a part of the RSEQ, as they are basically super highschools Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
animal31 Posted July 4, 2023 Author Share Posted July 4, 2023 (edited) Im sorry for such a long delay Despite needing to do less work, ive somehow made more work for myself, and have taken longer on this database than the last Ive definitely taken the fact that I released the FM22 version at the beginning of the year as a security blanket, and have been working less efficiently that I would have liked. But its coming, its almost done. Im just going over last minute game design for the rules of the competitions before fully implementing them, and making sure my database is perfectly sanitized to be imported into FM24 when the time comes so I dont have to undo so many mistakes as I did this year Edited July 4, 2023 by animal31 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph54 Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 I continue my adventure with Celtix Haut-Richelieu. Got a pretty decent team, even beat Arsenal in Champions Club in 2049 and Bayern in 2053. But lost in quarterfinal twice. In 2053, I decide to change club because I dont think I could be better than what I was. The only way I could be better is to have more than 5 foreign player in the starting XI. The rest was the best canadian player that are not good enough to go in Europe and right now because there is not other good enough canadian club I cant rely ont them to grow reputation of the league, so player want to quit kind of fast. So I start with a club in fifth division and get them in first division in 6 years. Hope to be really good eventually :). With the canadian team, finally got good players in every position, was able to snatch one of the best prospect who want to go with France and snatch him. Was a superstar for us even at 20 years old. I lost in the finals against Germany in penalty, was so close! Hope to be able to have success like this in the future. Currently 10th in the Wolrd but I was ninth à my best. I dont get great prospect lastly, hoping to find more great prospect soon 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinqqys Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Hey, I have been having some trouble getting this database to work properly for me. I am always able to create a save with this database active and begin playing with it, but I am unable to then load the game once I exit the save. Every time I attempt to load a save with this database active I get the "save game cannot be loaded" error message, while I am still able to load other saves that do not have this database activated. Any idea of a potential fix or something that I may be doing wrong? If it helps, I am playing on the PC version of the game through gamepass. This database is super cool and I would love to get it working. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinqqys Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 On 16/07/2023 at 22:17, Jinqqys said: Hey, I have been having some trouble getting this database to work properly for me. I am always able to create a save with this database active and begin playing with it, but I am unable to then load the game once I exit the save. Every time I attempt to load a save with this database active I get the "save game cannot be loaded" error message, while I am still able to load other saves that do not have this database activated. Any idea of a potential fix or something that I may be doing wrong? If it helps, I am playing on the PC version of the game through gamepass. This database is super cool and I would love to get it working. Upon further thought I am wondering if it is maybe because I started the save on 23.5 while the 23.4 file is the latest version of the database that was released Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 Is it OK when I would use (some of) the new clubs you created for this file for the Historical Divergence project? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
animal31 Posted August 5, 2023 Author Share Posted August 5, 2023 On 22/07/2023 at 05:58, Jinqqys said: Upon further thought I am wondering if it is maybe because I started the save on 23.5 while the 23.4 file is the latest version of the database that was released Ive been on vacation so i havnt been able to respond to this But this is actually an error with college teams. If there are too many teams with a certain club objective of like "sign players under the age of 18" or whatever it may be it wont load a save file if there are too many leagues loaded. It might be helpful to restart your save with less leagues and saving reloading before you hit continue This will obviously be fixed in the update once released which should be in the coming weeks. Basically I just removed the objectives. Again im sorry for such a wait but if you want a better fix you can edit the file to remove club objectives from U Sports teams 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
animal31 Posted August 5, 2023 Author Share Posted August 5, 2023 8 hours ago, Wolf_pd said: Is it OK when I would use (some of) the new clubs you created for this file for the Historical Divergence project? Theres only like 4 teams that ive made myself but you can use those Of the other teams theyre all real life teams or coming expansion teams so im pretty sure youre free to use them anwyay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 10 hours ago, animal31 said: Theres only like 4 teams that ive made myself but you can use those Of the other teams theyre all real life teams or coming expansion teams so im pretty sure youre free to use them anwyay Since you have been the one spending time on adding them the database, I would consider the other teams created your work as well, them being reallife or not So that's why I asked. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vakama2619 Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 On 05/08/2023 at 12:46, animal31 said: Ive been on vacation so i havnt been able to respond to this But this is actually an error with college teams. If there are too many teams with a certain club objective of like "sign players under the age of 18" or whatever it may be it wont load a save file if there are too many leagues loaded. It might be helpful to restart your save with less leagues and saving reloading before you hit continue This will obviously be fixed in the update once released which should be in the coming weeks. Basically I just removed the objectives. Again im sorry for such a wait but if you want a better fix you can edit the file to remove club objectives from U Sports teams Good to see I'm not the only one with this problem and good to see there is a solution to it as it's a great database, might go through and remove it myself at some point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesolateCreator Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 On 04/08/2023 at 21:46, animal31 said: Ive been on vacation so i havnt been able to respond to this But this is actually an error with college teams. If there are too many teams with a certain club objective of like "sign players under the age of 18" or whatever it may be it wont load a save file if there are too many leagues loaded. It might be helpful to restart your save with less leagues and saving reloading before you hit continue This will obviously be fixed in the update once released which should be in the coming weeks. Basically I just removed the objectives. Again im sorry for such a wait but if you want a better fix you can edit the file to remove club objectives from U Sports teams Just wanted to let you know, I have tried all of the solutions, and none of them have fixed it. I tested it with just Canada loaded, and every amount of leagues, and I could not ever load the save. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
animal31 Posted August 11, 2023 Author Share Posted August 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, DesolateCreator said: Just wanted to let you know, I have tried all of the solutions, and none of them have fixed it. I tested it with just Canada loaded, and every amount of leagues, and I could not ever load the save. Can you try verifying Football Manager from your steam library? I just tried it on my machine and it loaded fine, it might be a problem with your install Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesolateCreator Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 15 minutes ago, animal31 said: Can you try verifying Football Manager from your steam library? I just tried it on my machine and it loaded fine, it might be a problem with your install Ill try quick and let you know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesolateCreator Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 23 minutes ago, animal31 said: Can you try verifying Football Manager from your steam library? I just tried it on my machine and it loaded fine, it might be a problem with your install That did not work either, I think im gonna do a complete fresh reinstall. It installed 11 new things but that didnt fix it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesolateCreator Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 I fig 45 minutes ago, animal31 said: Can you try verifying Football Manager from your steam library? I just tried it on my machine and it loaded fine, it might be a problem with your install I figured it out but it was ultimately because im dumb. I had all the players loaded in the Canadian lower leagues even if they were turned off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorgen Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 (edited) On 05/08/2023 at 15:17, Wolf_pd said: Since you have been the one spending time on adding them the database, I would consider the other teams created your work as well, them being reallife or not So that's why I asked. This is exactly the right reason why it is good to ask permission 👍 Creativity and effort are both important. Edited August 12, 2023 by Jorgen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
animal31 Posted August 19, 2023 Author Share Posted August 19, 2023 (edited) According to my most recent test, Valour gets relegated in 2031 Canadas best player in 2050 is a goalkeeper that came out of Waterloo for Borussia Dortmund, presumably because of the link up with Waterloo United/BVB International Academy Waterloo. And while a majority still come out of MLS academies, many national team players have come from teams like Victoria Highlanders and TSS Rovers Edited August 19, 2023 by animal31 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverik1828 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Hey does anyone know of a usa database with all leages including mls next playable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
animal31 Posted August 23, 2023 Author Share Posted August 23, 2023 On 22/08/2023 at 07:30, Maverik1828 said: Hey does anyone know of a usa database with all leages including mls next playable If youre asking for one thats compatible with this the honest answer is I have no idea, as I dont test for compatibility But there is this one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
animal31 Posted August 25, 2023 Author Share Posted August 25, 2023 Im in that really awkward stage where im testing things for hours and hours, without doing in actual work, trying to fix the broken parts. Its slow, and its not sexy, but it means its coming out soon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
animal31 Posted August 31, 2023 Author Share Posted August 31, 2023 Ive pinpointed a failing database down to the sigular edit that caused it to fail Winnipeg FC being added to League 3 Prarie With Winnipeg FC in L3P, the database crashes when I remove Winnipeg FC, the database doesnt crash When I remove the Supporter objectives and restore the team to the League, it doesnt crash I am frustrated lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
animal31 Posted September 2, 2023 Author Share Posted September 2, 2023 Looks like all of the game breaking bugs have been ironed out, and the game runs until at least 2037 with no issue. Now I just have to convert to Advanced rules and add the finishing touches 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
animal31 Posted September 12, 2023 Author Share Posted September 12, 2023 All 12 levels of senior competition work perfectly until at least 2040 Theres still some Football Manager weirdness, but not much I can do about that. I can mitigate the issue of low level teams turning professional but I can fix it, no one seems to know what causes it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vakama2619 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just confirming if I load up the game it won't instantly corrupt the file? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
animal31 Posted September 12, 2023 Author Share Posted September 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, Vakama2619 said: Just confirming if I load up the game it won't instantly corrupt the file? This version that will be uploaded this week? No, it works fine 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vakama2619 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 14 minutes ago, animal31 said: This version that will be uploaded this week? No, it works fine Sweet! I look forward to downloading Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
animal31 Posted September 18, 2023 Author Share Posted September 18, 2023 I love that the last possible league I have to edit is now causing a crash lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
animal31 Posted September 20, 2023 Author Share Posted September 20, 2023 I found the fix and so far so good, im gonna let it sim over night as a final stress test 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
animal31 Posted September 21, 2023 Author Share Posted September 21, 2023 Peep that title change baby Its here https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3039047864 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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