Moving African Nation to Europe continent? Need help.

[M00rz3d]

Hello there.

So, after being a passive player of FM for years, took a break after 19 and came back in FM 21, I decided to tinker with the Game.

I wanted to play with an African team and Nation and settled on NGA.

I managed to create the a working league system for NGA down to a 4th division with different challenge cups and youth cups.

(I never could figure out how to set promotion playoffs and relegation playoffs, I chalk that up to my limited knowledge on the game in real life, but I'm quite satisfied with what I came up with).

 

After playing with that for a while, I became even more ambitious. I went deep into the editors hideaway when I tried creating the working leagues and have a semblance of knowledge and at the very least, I know what I want to do can be done.

But I cannot see the exact topic that covers it because sometimes people answer totally different questions in a section and because it's not expressly on its own, I couldn't bookmark it.

So, now, I have decided to ask for help.

Even a point to the right direction on how to go about what I want to do would be really helpful.

I've seen the works of Kubi, Krlen, Wolf and the questions and answers of others in the Forum and that has helped some but now, I'm a bit stuck.

I think I know what to do, but I need to be sure.

 

I want to move NGA, and it's competitions, to Europe thereby making it being regarded as a European country during WC and for their First division teams to qualify for Continental competitions like UEFA champions league and the National team to play in European competitions.

 

I thought about swapping Continents and I did so by basic editing NGA to Europe continent and then moved Kazakhstan to Asia.

I then edited all NGA competitions to have their continent based in Europe.

 

When I tried to test the lowest competition, I got this error.

 

"European Championship Qualifying, Number of teams in competition (0) doesn't match expected number of teams from rankings (54)"

 

So, here goes my question.

What do I need to do from here to make NGA a playable European nation?

Did I miss some steps from earlier?

 

If there's a thread that explains this explicitly or someone who could let me know what to do, I'd be happy to receive the help.

 

Thank you.

Edited January 2, 2023 by M00rz3d
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[rusty217]

You'll need to add in rules for the Nations League too, here's a guide for how to copy/paste international rules so you can add them to your existing file. https://community.sigames.com/forums/topic/540347-how-to-extract-continental-club-and-international-files-from-editor-tutorial/?do=findComment&comment=13403624

In the Nations League rules go to Teams > Registered Teams, find the entry for Kazakhstan and replace it with your nation instead. You'll probably have to do it for all 3 versions of the Nations League.

The Euro qualifiers playoffs are based on Nations League standings so they'll pick up Kazakhstan from there even if they're not considered European anymore, then they'll have an error due to having the wrong number of teams.

Although I'm not sure a team from Africa will necessarily work either, IIRC African international competitions are pretty finicky about having the exact number of teams too. Might be better to move a different country to Africa (Cyprus, Malta, Israel perhaps?) rather than a country to Asia. Then both Europe and Africa will still have the required number of teams. Although that would only work for the WCQ and AFCON. You might still need to add rules for CHAN (like above) to remove your nation from that, since IIRC that draws specific teams to each regional qualifier rather than just pulling African teams, so them not being African anymore won't stop them from being drawn in the competition.

[M00rz3d]

Thank you, Rusty. I think understand the gist of it. I'll outline it so please let me know if I'm wrong.

I should bring back Kazakhstan and then move one of the listed countries to Africa, which I've done.

I Set all competitions to the respective moved Continents. (I moved IS to Africa). 

 

I'll follow the Instructions but I'd like to know the three National leagues I have to replace IS in, if you could please list them. I can figure out CHAN since you mentioned it.

 

1 hour ago, rusty217 said:

You'll need to add in rules for the Nations League too, here's a guide for how to copy/paste international rules so you can add them to your existing file. https://community.sigames.com/forums/topic/540347-how-to-extract-continental-club-and-international-files-from-editor-tutorial/?do=findComment&comment=13403624

In the Nations League rules go to Teams > Registered Teams, find the entry for Kazakhstan and replace it with your nation instead. You'll probably have to do it for all 3 versions of the Nations League.

The Euro qualifiers playoffs are based on Nations League standings so they'll pick up Kazakhstan from there even if they're not considered European anymore, then they'll have an error due to having the wrong number of teams.

Although I'm not sure a team from Africa will necessarily work either, IIRC African international competitions are pretty finicky about having the exact number of teams too. Might be better to move a different country to Africa (Cyprus, Malta, Israel perhaps?) rather than a country to Asia. Then both Europe and Africa will still have the required number of teams. Although that would only work for the WCQ and AFCON. You might still need to add rules for CHAN (like above) to remove your nation from that, since IIRC that draws specific teams to each regional qualifier rather than just pulling African teams, so them not being African anymore won't stop them from being drawn in the competition.

 

Edited January 2, 2023 by M00rz3d
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[rusty217]

1 hour ago, M00rz3d said:

Thank you, Rusty. I think understand the gist of it. I'll outline it so please let me know if I'm wrong.

I should bring back Kazakhstan and then move one of the listed countries to Africa, which I've done.

I Set all competitions to the respective moved Continents. (I moved IS to Africa). 

 

I'll follow the Instructions but I'd like to know the three National leagues I have to replace IS in, if you could please list them. I can figure out CHAN since you mentioned it.

 

 

The UEFA Nations League. I think it's called the International League in game. It's got 3 different versions to filter russia's missing position down 1 division at a time until it sticks with the final version where Division D is a team short. Just getting into the rules for the International League parent competition will give you all 3, and all divisions are contained in each one.

[M00rz3d]

17 hours ago, rusty217 said:

The UEFA Nations League. I think it's called the International League in game. It's got 3 different versions to filter russia's missing position down 1 division at a time until it sticks with the final version where Division D is a team short. Just getting into the rules for the International League parent competition will give you all 3, and all divisions are contained in each one.

Hey Rusty.

I managed to figure out extracting rules, I just used the XML way and merging databases, maybe FM21 editor doesn't store data as much as FM22 editor.

The issue, I have, I tried editing CHAN as you instructed but its showing an error;

"New stage 0 for *CHAN* can't find enough teams needed to be created. 0 teams found, 16 needed."

I only swapped NGA with IS and got that error.

Should I reverse and let game sort out by itself or am I missing something?

 

Thank you.

Edit:

I undid CHAN.

But set up rules for WCQ and EIL.

It's testing well.

 

Edited January 3, 2023 by M00rz3d
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[rusty217]

3 hours ago, M00rz3d said:

Hey Rusty.

I managed to figure out extracting rules, I just used the XML way and merging databases, maybe FM21 editor doesn't store data as much as FM22 editor.

The issue, I have, I tried editing CHAN as you instructed but its showing an error;

"New stage 0 for *CHAN* can't find enough teams needed to be created. 0 teams found, 16 needed."

I only swapped NGA with IS and got that error.

Should I reverse and let game sort out by itself or am I missing something?

 

Thank you.

Edit:

I undid CHAN.

But set up rules for WCQ and EIL.

It's testing well.

 

Ah yeah, maybe a version issue. I've never tried on any versions before FM22.

Sounds like you got it all working though, nice!

[M00rz3d]

On 03/01/2023 at 03:21, rusty217 said:

Ah yeah, maybe a version issue. I've never tried on any versions before FM22.

Sounds like you got it all working though, nice!

I did get it working, thank you!

I tested it and did my best to rectify competitions affecting both nations.

I managed to set up; WCQA,WCQ,EIL.

I couldn't set up CHAN and ECPQ as both nations are still playing those, I want to believe it's hard coded, or it has a dependency that I couldn't figure out.

Either ways, I'm satisfied with what I have currently.

Thank you for your help, Rusty.