Jargha Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 Hi, I got an issue when trying to remove a u-19 team from being created on a database covering to level 10 in England. Kinda stuck feels like I tried everything. Anyone got any tips or what am I doing anything wrong? Reserve rules are set to U-21 and U-18 for England I have removed all reserve teams for the team i want to manage as it has in the database preset to add a U-19 team. I have also tried to change this to U-18 but the result is the same. But when starting the game it still adds the u-19 team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
affe1802 Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 (edited) vor 44 Minuten schrieb Jargha: Hi, I got an issue when trying to remove a u-19 team from being created on a database covering to level 10 in England. Kinda stuck feels like I tried everything. Anyone got any tips or what am I doing anything wrong? Reserve rules are set to U-21 and U-18 for England I have removed all reserve teams for the team i want to manage as it has in the database preset to add a U-19 team. I have also tried to change this to U-18 but the result is the same. But when starting the game it still adds the u-19 team. OK I understand what you want. You want start as Youth Trainer. 1. Reserve Rules U21 and U18 section set it to Youth Team (disabled until needed) than have all teams no youth team because you removed all reserve teams. 2. In order to train youth teams you will most likely have to create below the main team´s divisions. And I think the child comp section can in the original just max 20 levels. 3. You can than only train one Team U21 or U18 4. I think you must have the U21 and U18 in Club in Reserve Teams section right site in Reserve Teams and set in the detail section there the leagues and stadiums. Edited January 21, 2023 by affe1802 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jargha Posted January 21, 2023 Author Share Posted January 21, 2023 17 minutes ago, affe1802 said: OK I understand what you want. You want start as Youth Trainer. 1. Reserve Rules U21 and U18 section set it to Youth Team (disabled until needed) than have all teams no youth team because you removed all reserve teams. 2. In order to train youth teams you will most likely have to create below the main team´s divisions. And I think the child comp section can in the original just max 20 levels. 3. You can than only train one Team U21 or U18 4. I think you must have the U21 and U18 in Club in Reserve Teams section right site in Reserve Teams and set in the detail section there the leagues and stadiums. No I want to remove the U19 team from being created when starting the game as it is kinda useless in English football as they only have youth leagues for u21 and u18. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
affe1802 Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 vor 2 Minuten schrieb Jargha: No I want to remove the U19 team from being created when starting the game as it is kinda useless in English football as they only have youth leagues for u21 and u18. So look in the advanced section for the Youth Teams division would Division type is it set? But you want train a Youth Team You must set The divisions below the national division to train Youth Teams1!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jargha Posted January 21, 2023 Author Share Posted January 21, 2023 Even if i set it like this. It still creates the u19 team in game. I only want U21 and U18 teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
affe1802 Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 So far so good. Now look for U21 and U18 Team details section set the leagues and stadium. If you test the rules test it in game if no U21 league or U18 league possible to choose you have put these competitions under the national lie. then test the rules then start the test game. But I think you must Copy The team and rename it to U21 or U18 and set this as affiliated club to main team If you don't can be choose your U18 Team You must set these leagues under the domestic leagues Hansa Rostock II is a U23 Team but it plays in a Domestic league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 Hello @affe1802please try to answer the question of the user. You are not doing that with your posts. You assume he wants to manage as a Youth trainer which he doesn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 2 hours ago, Jargha said: Hi, I got an issue when trying to remove a u-19 team from being created on a database covering to level 10 in England. Kinda stuck feels like I tried everything. Anyone got any tips or what am I doing anything wrong? Reserve rules are set to U-21 and U-18 for England I have removed all reserve teams for the team i want to manage as it has in the database preset to add a U-19 team. I have also tried to change this to U-18 but the result is the same. But when starting the game it still adds the u-19 team. @Jarghawhich database are you using? There are a few that go to level 10. This might be a setting inside the England rules, so I need to know which one it is to confirm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jargha Posted January 21, 2023 Author Share Posted January 21, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Wolf_pd said: @Jarghawhich database are you using? There are a few that go to level 10. This might be a setting inside the England rules, so I need to know which one it is to confirm. Im using England Level 10 League & Data Updates done by ivanwright26 on steam. But the u19 thing looks like it is already in the game from original database as this team is in it already. Team is Merthyr Town. I guess I could try to swap the team in with the original database to Vanarama to see if it act the same way. Edited January 21, 2023 by Jargha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Jargha said: Im using England Level 10 League & Data Updates done by ivanwright26 on steam. But the u19 thing looks like it is already in the game from original database as this team is in it already. Just a sec, I would download and check and let you know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 Testing some thing atm, will come back when I have answers. And since this is more interesting than doing the dishes, I will be working on this now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jargha Posted January 21, 2023 Author Share Posted January 21, 2023 Haha thanks its very wierd issue everything else seems to work fine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themodelcitizen Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 Some teams seem to always have a U19 section, even if you take those steps. I wonder if the game has to have a certain amount in each country to make tournaments like the "Italian Youth Invitational" run smoothly so it just automatically assigns U19 teams, even if there's no actual division (and if you've checked all those boxes like "never used") Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 Doing some testing, but verifying 10 levels takes time.... Edit: trying out one thing that helped me previously in FM20 and FM22. It is slightly counterintuitive, but as @themodelcitizensays, that's the editor for you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jargha Posted January 21, 2023 Author Share Posted January 21, 2023 30 minutes ago, themodelcitizen said: Some teams seem to always have a U19 section, even if you take those steps. I wonder if the game has to have a certain amount in each country to make tournaments like the "Italian Youth Invitational" run smoothly so it just automatically assigns U19 teams, even if there's no actual division (and if you've checked all those boxes like "never used") So if i maybe add another U19 team on another team they changes will take? Or maybe it is permenant on this team. 28 minutes ago, Wolf_pd said: Doing some testing, but verifying 10 levels takes time.... Haha yea it is a pain. Sometimes i only verified the division the team was playing to do some testing because of the time it takes to verifiy all 10. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 Seems it is something set by a researcher based on the way it pops up in the game. So this is probably permanent for this specific team. To elaborate, there is the possibility for a team to have specific reserve and youth teams set by researchers. That in general overrides all competition setups as it is datadriven and not competitiondriven. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 There is one alternative that I am checking now and that's to set flexible format to overwrite code, but that's just a guess and to be very honest, it might do more that I don't expect it to do than it to do good. It's just that I want to see if it overrides the U19 team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 Too bad, that trick didn't help either. I also see that the U19 has a ID that is quite low, which again tells me this is hardcoded. Sorry, case of can't fix. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themodelcitizen Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 4 hours ago, Wolf_pd said: Too bad, that trick didn't help either. I also see that the U19 has a ID that is quite low, which again tells me this is hardcoded. Sorry, case of can't fix. Some Sammarinese teams seem to always generate a U19 team, even if there's no division or U19 team set. I expect its hard-coded like you say, might have to do with the researchers accidentally adding a U19 team at one point in the past. Remember in older versions it seemed to cause all kinds of chaos if you would make, like, a U19 team and then try to delete it? Like the unique ID still showed up in certain searches? Wonder if they did that with the big MS Access database for these teams at one point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jargha Posted January 22, 2023 Author Share Posted January 22, 2023 On 21/01/2023 at 18:02, Wolf_pd said: Too bad, that trick didn't help either. I also see that the U19 has a ID that is quite low, which again tells me this is hardcoded. Sorry, case of can't fix. Thank for trying Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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