Hoffbeck Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 I am finding it hard to make my players play the ball back to my CB's to recycle possesion in attack. I find that players are always looking for the forward more risky pass. I have tried pretty muvh everthing. Here is my current tactic. In this situation i would love Diomande to play it back to my CB, but despite him being asked to play it short at take fewer risk he goes for the hard pass every time in these situations. Instead of the less risky pass back to my CB Any ideas how to fix this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud9 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 18 minutes ago, Hoffbeck said: I am finding it hard to make my players play the ball back to my CB's to recycle possesion in attack. I find that players are always looking for the forward more risky pass. I have tried pretty muvh everthing. Here is my current tactic. In this situation i would love Diomande to play it back to my CB, but despite him being asked to play it short at take fewer risk he goes for the hard pass every time in these situations. Instead of the less risky pass back to my CB Any ideas how to fix this? Go into the PIs and drag around the meters so you instructs players to "pass it shorter." You'll need to drag around the teams passing directness to do it with everyone. The enganche is a ball magnet, so you might look to recreate him in a blank role if you're truly looking for the play to come out of the BPD. SK(a) can boot the ball a lot too, a simple GK might do the trick. SK(d) comes without "take more risks." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Ace Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 @Hoffbeck At the risk of "nerfing" your tactic, a couple of other things you could try Lowering the mentality - this will encourage players to make safer choices on the ball so it'll increase the chances of players recycling the ball and less likely that they look ahead to make their passes Lose the AFs - AF's love to make those runs in behind the defence, you can see them both poised in that screenshot and your team will look to play those play in behind, regardless of everything else you ask of the team 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Jef- Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Also, PI 'take fewer risk' is excellent and my main way of selecting only those players that i want to recycle the ball. I have it on my IWB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Ace Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 TBF, I've just noticed, you have him on Auto, which, with your team mentality will have him on Positive (I think). Try him on Support instead Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud9 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 4 hours ago, -Jef- said: Also, PI 'take fewer risk' is excellent and my main way of selecting only those players that i want to recycle the ball. I have it on my IWB Just a little heads up here: Take fewer risks" sometimes mean your players are just hoofing the ball if they feel there is a risk, so it can be a little counterproductive if you want to keep possession. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Ace Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 He's already using Take Fewer Risks on the player, says so in the OP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
st.cronin Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 I've sometimes noticed footedness can impact this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Jef- Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 16 hours ago, Cloud9 said: Just a little heads up here: Take fewer risks" sometimes mean your players are just hoofing the ball if they feel there is a risk, so it can be a little counterproductive if you want to keep possession. I know. Take fewer risk and having goalkeepr on SK means he is a magnet for the ball. So if anything he's gonna punt it to the keeper rather than make a risky pass to a striker. I'd rather have my players punt it than play a risky pass to congested middle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Ace Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 9 minutes ago, -Jef- said: I know. Take fewer risk and having goalkeepr on SK means he is a magnet for the ball. So if anything he's gonna punt it to the keeper rather than make a risky pass to a striker. I'd rather have my players punt it than play a risky pass to congested middle Are you saying a SK is a ball magnet? As far as I know he's not, unless something changed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mp_87 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 No offence to the OP, but that seems a set up that will naturally produce a direct approach whatever the instruction. Positive is a high mentality that will look to take risks and "play forward" even with the modifications via TI's. All the individual player roles will be looking to go forward. Sweeper Keeper on attack & BPD's with that mentality will likely launch it forward. You then have two midfield runners, two wide players who on auto with that mentality will be running and playing forward, the playmaker in the No.10 role so the "ball magnet" is further forward, plus two striker runners looking for the ball knocked into space. Plus I note the TI of run with the ball, which will especially effect the wide players I'd have thought. The instructions can only do so much, the mentality/roles/duties, to me, make direct play fairly inevitable. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Jef- Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Johnny Ace said: Are you saying a SK is a ball magnet? As far as I know he's not, unless something changed There is definitely a difference in how my defense plays from the back forward between GK and SK. Unless I am delusional just had placebo effect for the last 10 months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Ace Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 6 hours ago, -Jef- said: There is definitely a difference in how my defense plays from the back forward between GK and SK. Unless I am delusional just had placebo effect for the last 10 months. I don't think there's anything in the ME maybe SK's are a bit more willing to come out so they're more available to pass to Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Jef- Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 6 hours ago, Johnny Ace said: I don't think there's anything in the ME maybe SK's are a bit more willing to out so they're more available to pass to It's probably that. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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