Configuring Polish League System in FM23 - Is It Possible?

[Manekin]

Hey!

I'm wondering if it's possible to set up a league structure in the game similar to the one in Poland. For instance, having leagues like

• Ekstraklasa (Level 1),
• 1. Liga (Level 2),
• 2 Liga (Level 3),
• 3 Liga (4 groups, Level 4),
• 5. Liga (only for 2 regions, Level 5),
• Klasa Okręgowa (Level 6, teams relegated from 4 or 5 Liga if applicable, Level 5 or 6 if 5 Liga exists),
• A Klasa (teams relegated from Klasa Okręgowa, Level 6 or 7 if 5 Liga exists),
• B Klasa (teams relegated from A klasa)
• C Klasa (teams relegated from B klasa, only 3 or 4 groups like that for some regions)

Additionally, I have a question: Is it possible to create a league with 130 groups (A Klasa)? I understand that the Polish league system is complex and implementing it might be challenging, but is there a way to do it?

[Wolf_pd]

@Bigpole sounds like right up your alley?

[Bigpole]

 

5 hours ago, Manekin said:

Hey!

I'm wondering if it's possible to set up a league structure in the game similar to the one in Poland. For instance, having leagues like

• Ekstraklasa (Level 1),
• 1. Liga (Level 2),
• 2 Liga (Level 3),
• 3 Liga (4 groups, Level 4),
• 5. Liga (only for 2 regions, Level 5),
• Klasa Okręgowa (Level 6, teams relegated from 4 or 5 Liga if applicable, Level 5 or 6 if 5 Liga exists),
• A Klasa (teams relegated from Klasa Okręgowa, Level 6 or 7 if 5 Liga exists),
• B Klasa (teams relegated from A klasa)
• C Klasa (teams relegated from B klasa, only 3 or 4 groups like that for some regions)

Additionally, I have a question: Is it possible to create a league with 130 groups (A Klasa)? I understand that the Polish league system is complex and implementing it might be challenging, but is there a way to do it?

There's a hidden limit in how many groups you can add to a certain level (Around 120-130) so anything more than this will give you crash or just won't verify in editor. There's a reason it's not possible to recreate 1:1 a polish pyramid due to a vast expansion from 7 level.

And in terms of structure, German/French is pretty similar to Poland. You have central level, then regional level and local level.

[Manekin]

Thank you very much for your answers. Do you think this will be improved in future editions of Football Manager?

[Bigpole]

14 hours ago, Manekin said:

Thank you very much for your answers. Do you think this will be improved in future editions of Football Manager?

To be honest, there are more important options in editor that needs to be fixed/implemented than competitions limit. More than 50-60 competitions running in one pyramid is already demanding on cpu and the whole game.

[Manekin]

I've come up with a concept that could help me create a more extensive league system while not exceeding the number of leagues at a given level. For example, in the Polish "A klasa," there are 130 leagues, but most of them are like "Warszawa I," "Warszawa II," "Warszawa III," etc. So, I thought about grouping them. This way, instead of having 130, I would have 62 (or 68 for the level below). I think this might work, and I want to at least try this configuration.

However, I'm having trouble with configuring a group. I'm referring to the "Polska A Klasa (kujawsko-pomorska: Bydgoszcz)" league. This league has 29 teams added. The league configuration should create 2 groups with 14 and 15 teams (just like in reality). However, when testing the league rules, I get an error saying it found only 19 teams, but there should be a minimum of 28 (the league configuration specifies a minimum of 28 and a maximum of 30 teams).

Could you (or someone who is knowledgeable) help me find the issue? (I attached a file with these leagues)

I should also mention that one team from each group should advance (for a total of 2 teams to the next league).

While I don't have a problem configuring a regular table, the group configuration is driving me crazy.

1.0 Polska Lga (A Klasa).fmf

[Manekin]

Never mind. I managed to solve the problem. The issue was the number of teams in other leagues at this level and their configuration. (I had more teams than the league allowed for). However, the error message was misleading.

[Manekin]

I have another question. How to name groups within one league? I would like the groups to have Roman alphabet letters, for example, Warsaw I, Warsaw II, Warsaw III, Warsaw IV, etc.

[Manekin]

How to correctly configure a league with promotions? I've been having trouble with promotions all the time. I have a league with 32 teams divided into 2 groups. 1 team advances from each of these groups. I managed to configure it for one league, but I encounter issues with promotions in another one. When I test a single league, everything works fine, but when I test the higher-level league, I get an error that 2 teams are relegated from the league, but 3 teams are promoted (random numbers, as I have many leagues). When I change it to have 2 teams promoted from the group, individual leagues pass validation, but when I test the whole setup, I get an error that 2 teams are relegated and 4 teams are promoted. Does anyone have a good league configuration? How can this be done?