beverage1982 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 So on the beta I'm trying to work on a tactical recreation of Unai Emery's Aston Villa. So far it's going well but one facet of his tactics I can't recreate is wide players moving inside to become 10s in possession. Emery's tactic essentially defends as a 442 then in attack becomes a 4222 with the wide men moving centrally. Gor the life of me I can't seem to replicate this behaviour consistently. Ive tried a variety of roles (IW, tailored wm, wp) but I just can't get them narrow enough. Just wondered if the hive mind had any ideas? Is there a TI I'm missing or should I be pushing those wide players up to the AM strata to make them cut in more? Any help greatly appreciated. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraser Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 From my own experience with a Genoa save a few years ago, the role of a Wide Playmaker with an Attack duty pushes the wide midfielders in towards the central AM spots when you have the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Delial Posted October 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2023 Based on the title of this topic, relatives and close ones are not included in the game yet, sadly... 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraser Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 7 minutes ago, Delial said: Based on the title of this topic, relatives and close ones are not included in the game yet, sadly... Next year, if the Womens' leagues are included, we can get wife players. As a Scotland fan, I'd marry Erin Cuthbert!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 I like to edit my wife in as owner of the club. In real life she's president of her company, albeit it isn't a football club. That way I get to blame her when she doesn't stump up the money or facilities I ask for 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowzatFM Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 9 hours ago, beverage1982 said: So on the beta I'm trying to work on a tactical recreation of Unai Emery's Aston Villa. So far it's going well but one facet of his tactics I can't recreate is wide players moving inside to become 10s in possession. Emery's tactic essentially defends as a 442 then in attack becomes a 4222 with the wide men moving centrally. Gor the life of me I can't seem to replicate this behaviour consistently. Ive tried a variety of roles (IW, tailored wm, wp) but I just can't get them narrow enough. Just wondered if the hive mind had any ideas? Is there a TI I'm missing or should I be pushing those wide players up to the AM strata to make them cut in more? Any help greatly appreciated. As always also doing the same trying to re-create Villa tactics. It is difficult because the base formation definitely has to be 4-4-2, I’m currently using an IW(A) and WM(A), both with sit narrower and narrow width. They do at points move into the AM position and probably the best that can be done? what’s your overall tactic looking like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The3points Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 If you were alright with pushing players up a strata, AP in the CAM strata stays in the halfspace quite well 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beverage1982 Posted October 24, 2023 Author Share Posted October 24, 2023 1 hour ago, HowzatFM said: As always also doing the same trying to re-create Villa tactics. It is difficult because the base formation definitely has to be 4-4-2, I’m currently using an IW(A) and WM(A), both with sit narrower and narrow width. They do at points move into the AM position and probably the best that can be done? what’s your overall tactic looking like? Yay good to have company for the challenge. I'll post up tactic tomorrow. Still tinkering with TIs. I'm down a rabbit hole of focus play and width Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhyMe Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Have you tried the central mids in the DM position and a very narrow team width with focus through the middle? Roles wise I'd try wide play maker attack on one side and WM-A on the other (PI'd of course). The WM on the same side as your support striker and the WP behind an attack striker. I haven't got FM24 yet so this is just theory, but this would be my guess Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowzatFM Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 20 hours ago, beverage1982 said: Yay good to have company for the challenge. I'll post up tactic tomorrow. Still tinkering with TIs. I'm down a rabbit hole of focus play and width I tried to play around with Kamara as a halfback and pushing Cash further on, like Emery has also used this season. However, just could not find a way to get McGinn to move into centre midfield, unless starting him there, but does not acheive the 4-4-2 defensive shape. So therefore best way to re create the 3-2-5 shape is with the IFB(D) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beverage1982 Posted October 25, 2023 Author Share Posted October 25, 2023 4 hours ago, HowzatFM said: I tried to play around with Kamara as a halfback and pushing Cash further on, like Emery has also used this season. However, just could not find a way to get McGinn to move into centre midfield, unless starting him there, but does not acheive the 4-4-2 defensive shape. So therefore best way to re create the 3-2-5 shape is with the IFB(D) Yup I've struggled with that version of our structure too. While I naturally went 442 DM as the starting point I'm increasingly thinking that 424 DM is the way to go. Not only is it much easier to get the wide players central but also if you look at Unai Emery in game it's his preferred formation (though by the same token his preferred tactical style is wingplay so maybe take it with a grain of salt) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robot_9x3 Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 I haven't got FM24 yet, but from old FMs and from what I have read about the new positional play principles, I think you are on the right track with inward moving wideplayer types. Have you tried to accentuate the behaviour by pushing other players wide and further up (e.g. Fullbacks) instead of FB-Su as maybe FB-At or just WB-Su? At least in from what I have expierenced with the old FMs that seemed to help to get wide players to more eagerly drift to the middle. Other like others have said PIs and TIs to bring them as narrow as possible with the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beverage1982 Posted October 26, 2023 Author Share Posted October 26, 2023 Well I'm having no success at this. Just can't get the wide players to drift narrow enough at all. Have tried all manner of TIs and roles but I think unless I start with a box I can't achieve that shape. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyHughes Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 Unfortunately I came to this exact same realisation. The only way I could think of making it somewhat work is having 2 CMs or CAMs with Mark specific position on the opposition full backs so they sit wide in a defensive phase but I doubt that would work too well either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowzatFM Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 It’s difficult to get them exactly like AMs, but this doesn’t happen all the time. Watching MNF and the analysis they did, all players (apart from FBs) are within the width of the penalty areas when GK has the ball, which you can achieve with sit narrower and narrow width. This Emery team is so flexible, it’s very hard to get an exact recreation on FM 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beverage1982 Posted October 27, 2023 Author Share Posted October 27, 2023 46 minutes ago, HowzatFM said: It’s difficult to get them exactly like AMs, but this doesn’t happen all the time. Watching MNF and the analysis they did, all players (apart from FBs) are within the width of the penalty areas when GK has the ball, which you can achieve with sit narrower and narrow width. This Emery team is so flexible, it’s very hard to get an exact recreation on FM Very true. Are you playing on full narrow? Also what mentality you on? I think balanced is best but I could also see cautious or positive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rashidi Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 I did an explanation of how you can defend as a 442 and attack in a narrow configuration like a box in this thread. It is possible, the way roles position themselves, you will generally only see them go narrow in the midfield transition. If u are aiming to do the same thing on FM22 u can’t. You would need to set up a box 442. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc577 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Rashidi said: It is possible, the way roles position themselves, you will generally only see them go narrow in the midfield transition. If u are aiming to do the same thing on FM22 u can’t. You would need to set up a box 442. I've tried getting ML/MR players to tuck inside and sit in the half-space on FM24 but found it difficult to achieve consistently, as they didn't come in narrow enough and even when they did, looked for space back out wide. Also doing a Villa replication Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beverage1982 Posted October 28, 2023 Author Share Posted October 28, 2023 Think after much consideration (and a huge helping hand from Dan Gear over at the wonderful view from the Touchline) I've finally cracked this. Will probably do a separate thread once I've played a bit more but it's looking so much more like Villa IRL> 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyHughes Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Looking forward to seeing how you got it to work. I gave up and tried to replicate Girona instead to... let's say mixed results Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowzatFM Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, beverage1982 said: Think after much consideration (and a huge helping hand from Dan Gear over at the wonderful view from the Touchline) I've finally cracked this. Will probably do a separate thread once I've played a bit more but it's looking so much more like Villa IRL> I have something fairly similar Reasons for LM on support role? Would Luiz not be more suited to RPM or Segundo? Edited October 28, 2023 by HowzatFM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beverage1982 Posted October 28, 2023 Author Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) 31 minutes ago, HowzatFM said: I have something fairly similar Reasons for LM on support role? Would Luiz not be more suited to RPM or Segundo? So the reason I changed Luiz is partly because the secundo and RPM now move into the AM position with the new positional play and that blocks the LW from coming in. Also read a great piece on opta that basically profiles Luiz as a DM / bwm. His tackling is up there with best in league. I think it's easy to get caught up on his goal contributions (of his 5 this year 3 have been pens) but he arrives much later than a SV does. The DM is also hugely customisable but maintains the pivot. iW on support just makes that digne overlap easier. Also staggers the attack. But to be honest I tweak game to game. Favourite thing at mo is Mcginn goes to support and Diaby to attack duty for tough games. Whole thing is working a treat soo far... Edited October 28, 2023 by beverage1982 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowzatFM Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 minute ago, beverage1982 said: So the reason I changed Luiz is partly because the secundo and RPM now move into the AM position with the new positional play and that blocks the LW from coming in. Also read a great piece on opta that basically profiles Luiz as a DM / bwm. His tackling is up there with best in league. I think it's easy to get caught up on his goal contributions but he arrives much later than a SV does. The DM is also hugely customisable but maintains the pivot. iW on support just makes that digne overlap easier. Also staggers the attack. But to be honest I tweak game to game. Favourite thing at mo is Mcginn goes to support and Diaby to attack duty for tough games. Whole thing is working a treat I saw that article but didn’t really think of the new positional play aspects, something to consider. I currently have the IW(A) and WB(su), so will have a play around with both of those Can’t decide on Run at Defence, might settle on telling forwards to dribble more as can help encourage the quicker direct transitions I’m using Counter and I’ve also been using Counter press at times, more in games expected to win, find it gives a good balance between that occasional high press and returning to solid mid block 4-4-2 shape There is also a nice article on Emery Positional play by Football Bunseki, released a week ago, which is worth a read and emphasises the flexibility and little tweaks that are made. There is a base shape, but changes made game to game and within games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beverage1982 Posted October 28, 2023 Author Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 minute ago, HowzatFM said: I saw that article but didn’t really think of the new positional play aspects, something to consider. I currently have the IW(A) and WB(su), so will have a play around with both of those Can’t decide on Run at Defence, might settle on telling forwards to dribble more as can help encourage the quicker direct transitions I’m using Counter and I’ve also been using Counter press at times, more in games expected to win, find it gives a good balance between that occasional high press and returning to solid mid block 4-4-2 shape There is also a nice article on Emery Positional play by Football Bunseki, released a week ago, which is worth a read and emphasises the flexibility and little tweaks that are made. There is a base shape, but changes made game to game and within games Yeah read that. I like counter, I have both blank to add that flexibility. I have had counter press on at times too. But found on Positive that kind of counter press that we sometimes see in the opponent's half (which I'm not sure irl is a counter press like FM defines it) happens naturally so the TI is not needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowzatFM Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 minute ago, beverage1982 said: Yeah read that. I like counter, I have both blank to add that flexibility. I have had counter press on at times too. But found on Positive that kind of counter press that we sometimes see in the opponent's half (which I'm not sure irl is a counter press like FM defines it) happens naturally so the TI is not needed. Yeah definitely both to have the flexibility with both Knew slow pace down / short kicks to CBs was required anyway, but the AZ game mid week when Emi had the ball for over 30 seconds confirmed any doubt, he took it to the extreme 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beverage1982 Posted October 28, 2023 Author Share Posted October 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, HowzatFM said: Yeah definitely both to have the flexibility with both Knew slow pace down / short kicks to CBs was required anyway, but the AZ game mid week when Emi had the ball for over 30 seconds confirmed any doubt, he took it to the extreme 😂 Ha yeah that was one of the most surreal moments I've ever witnessed in a game. Off to Luton game tomorrow so can do some firsthand scouting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowzatFM Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, beverage1982 said: Ha yeah that was one of the most surreal moments I've ever witnessed in a game. Off to Luton game tomorrow so can do some firsthand scouting. Nice enjoy! I think Diaby is ready to really explode, hope that starts tomorrow Emery will probably have another small tactical change for us to ponder 😂 Edited October 28, 2023 by HowzatFM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 18 hours ago, beverage1982 said: Think after much consideration (and a huge helping hand from Dan Gear over at the wonderful view from the Touchline) I've finally cracked this. Will probably do a separate thread once I've played a bit more but it's looking so much more like Villa IRL> Do you use any PIs on the players, especially MR and ML? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowzatFM Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 43 minutes ago, Hog said: Do you use any PIs on the players, especially MR and ML? For the ML / MR - Sit Narrower, Cut inside with ball. Sometimes I am using Mark Specific Player on the opposition wingers, to get the 6-2-2 shape Emery has used in tougher matches Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 9 minutes ago, HowzatFM said: For the ML / MR - Sit Narrower, Cut inside with ball. Sometimes I am using Mark Specific Player on the opposition wingers, to get the 6-2-2 shape Emery has used in tougher matches Thanks for sharing, but I was asking about beverage's tactic. If McGinn goes narrow in his tactic, there is no width on the right side. On the other hand, McGinn is not a natural wide player and he is left footed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beverage1982 Posted October 29, 2023 Author Share Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, Hog said: Thanks for sharing, but I was asking about beverage's tactic. If McGinn goes narrow in his tactic, there is no width on the right side. On the other hand, McGinn is not a natural wide player and he is left footed. Tbf if you want info on how to set up a Villa tactic on FM then @HowzatFM is the person you want it from. Absolutely bang on with the PIs though sometimes I take sit narrower off McGinn. And yes McGinn isn't a wide player and yes it's very narrow. That's kind of the point under Emery though. To condense the play into the middle. Edited October 29, 2023 by beverage1982 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 I watched the highlights against WH. The first goal is an exception to that rule as Zaniolo dribbles down the left wing and cuts it back for Watkins who assists Luiz. It shows variation in Villa's play, partly due to Zaniolo's footedness. So if you produced a mirrored version of your tactic you could have McGinn narrower as an IWs and Zaniolo as a regular WMa. But that would mess with the strikers' footedness and positions as the support role would be on the left. No longer could Diaby come central onto his stronger foot to shoot or serve Watkins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowzatFM Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) It depends what profile of player is playing. McGinn comes a lot more central and cash is encouraged to get forward and provide the width on the right. But recreating that on FM is very difficult as McGinn is next to Luiz with Kamara acting as the Half back. When Bailey came on today, he played a lot wider and Cash slotted into the back 3. McGinn playing a narrower support role on the left with Digne overlapping. This is a lot easier to replicate on FM, when using Bailey as the WM(a), he won’t come narrow and inside every single time, so at times Sit narrower is removed, like real life it has to be flexible Edited October 29, 2023 by HowzatFM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowzatFM Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) Using a more attacking profile at Right Mid, this is what I have settled on. Very similar to @beverage1982, using the DM(su) was a great shout for the Luiz profile, it also added more balance to the left side and allows the WB to really get forward on attack duty providing the width. Best results I have had so far in getting the 3-2-5 shape and play style Emery has implemented. DM(su) - take more risks, get further forward, tackle harder WM(a) - dribble more, mark opposition winger (in tougher games and sometimes to see out results in get the 6-2-2 shape Emery has used) IW(su) - sit narrower, mark opposition winger (in tougher games and sometimes to see out results in get the 6-2-2 shape Emery has used) WB(a) - stay wider, dribble more (if using Moreno) LCB - stay wider Counter, Counter press and tempo added / adjusted depending on the game situation Edited October 29, 2023 by HowzatFM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beverage1982 Posted October 30, 2023 Author Share Posted October 30, 2023 11 hours ago, HowzatFM said: Using a more attacking profile at Right Mid, this is what I have settled on. Very similar to @beverage1982, using the DM(su) was a great shout for the Luiz profile, it also added more balance to the left side and allows the WB to really get forward on attack duty providing the width. Best results I have had so far in getting the 3-2-5 shape and play style Emery has implemented. DM(su) - take more risks, get further forward, tackle harder WM(a) - dribble more, mark opposition winger (in tougher games and sometimes to see out results in get the 6-2-2 shape Emery has used) IW(su) - sit narrower, mark opposition winger (in tougher games and sometimes to see out results in get the 6-2-2 shape Emery has used) WB(a) - stay wider, dribble more (if using Moreno) LCB - stay wider Counter, Counter press and tempo added / adjusted depending on the game situation Loving the look of this. I'm leaning towards something very similar but with mcginn on support and kamara on support. Great work though.t he man marking to achieve the back 6 is genius so I'm stealing that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beverage1982 Posted October 30, 2023 Author Share Posted October 30, 2023 Well the man marking worked a treat in this one (the 2 goals we conceded were from mistakes playing out from the back). One thing I'm currently toying with is upping the width one notch. It means a little less central play from the wingers, but I'm just not seeing the kind of fullback overlaps we do IRL on the extreme narrowness, even with PIs. But notch it up and they're more frequent. Another one that will probably be a game by game change. + 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsuzanoebok Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 To me this is a great issue, as my inside forwards or anyone i put to cut inside and other instructions tend to stay wide and just crosses lots of balls the same as wingers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowzatFM Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 (edited) On 29/10/2023 at 20:19, HowzatFM said: Using a more attacking profile at Right Mid, this is what I have settled on. Very similar to @beverage1982, using the DM(su) was a great shout for the Luiz profile, it also added more balance to the left side and allows the WB to really get forward on attack duty providing the width. Best results I have had so far in getting the 3-2-5 shape and play style Emery has implemented. DM(su) - take more risks, get further forward, tackle harder WM(a) - dribble more, mark opposition winger (in tougher games and sometimes to see out results in get the 6-2-2 shape Emery has used) IW(su) - sit narrower, mark opposition winger (in tougher games and sometimes to see out results in get the 6-2-2 shape Emery has used) WB(a) - stay wider, dribble more (if using Moreno) LCB - stay wider Counter, Counter press and tempo added / adjusted depending on the game situation To provide some small updates to what I am now using after some small tweaks I have removed get further forward from the DM(su), this prevents him taking up the space I want the IW to move into. I've changed the DLF and BWM to support roles, with the BWM told to hold position. WB(A) changed to FB(A) - just looking at the role description (although primarily a defensive player, he must be prepared to get forward when the team needs extra width)I think a FB(A) is more suited to Emery and how Digne has been playing this season. With the added PI(s) I am having much more success down the left. Current PIs: FB(a) - stay wider, dribble more LCB - stay wider DM(su) - take more risks, , tackle harder BWM(su) - hold position WM(a) - dribble more, mark opposition winger (in tougher games and sometimes to see out results in get the 6-2-2 shape Emery has used) IW(su) - sit narrower, mark opposition winger (in tougher games and sometimes to see out results in get the 6-2-2 shape Emery has used) Still has to be a flexible tactic with Counter, Counter press and tempo added / adjusted depending on the game situation. At home against games I expect to win I have been using Much Higher Defensive Line, really allows the team to dominate with the back 3 sitting on the half way line in possession. Screenshot from the most recent game vs Luton when Bailey came on. Digne is wide left Some screenshots below from FM on what I have been able to achieve Average position with the ball shows the 3-2-5 / 3-2-4-1 shape acheived with the IW(su) cutting in and close to the striker Edited November 4, 2023 by HowzatFM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beverage1982 Posted November 5, 2023 Author Share Posted November 5, 2023 23 hours ago, HowzatFM said: To provide some small updates to what I am now using after some small tweaks I have removed get further forward from the DM(su), this prevents him taking up the space I want the IW to move into. I've changed the DLF and BWM to support roles, with the BWM told to hold position. WB(A) changed to FB(A) - just looking at the role description (although primarily a defensive player, he must be prepared to get forward when the team needs extra width)I think a FB(A) is more suited to Emery and how Digne has been playing this season. With the added PI(s) I am having much more success down the left. Current PIs: FB(a) - stay wider, dribble more LCB - stay wider DM(su) - take more risks, , tackle harder BWM(su) - hold position WM(a) - dribble more, mark opposition winger (in tougher games and sometimes to see out results in get the 6-2-2 shape Emery has used) IW(su) - sit narrower, mark opposition winger (in tougher games and sometimes to see out results in get the 6-2-2 shape Emery has used) Still has to be a flexible tactic with Counter, Counter press and tempo added / adjusted depending on the game situation. At home against games I expect to win I have been using Much Higher Defensive Line, really allows the team to dominate with the back 3 sitting on the half way line in possession. Screenshot from the most recent game vs Luton when Bailey came on. Digne is wide left Some screenshots below from FM on what I have been able to achieve Average position with the ball shows the 3-2-5 / 3-2-4-1 shape acheived with the IW(su) cutting in and close to the striker Very good. I like how we've both arrived at near enough the same tactic, shows were both on the right track. I finished my Beta season with this tactic winning Carabao cup, conference league and finishing second in the league. Am looking forward to giving it a proper play through when the full fat game is released tomorrow. Great work on this and thanks for sharing. Btw I have the starting embers of the Kamara HB version working too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowzatFM Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 36 minutes ago, beverage1982 said: Very good. I like how we've both arrived at near enough the same tactic, shows were both on the right track. I finished my Beta season with this tactic winning Carabao cup, conference league and finishing second in the league. Am looking forward to giving it a proper play through when the full fat game is released tomorrow. Great work on this and thanks for sharing. Btw I have the starting embers of the Kamara HB version working too Yes definitely! very nice!! ooo would like to see it once you have played more with it! I just couldn’t get the wide mid playing central consistently Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beverage1982 Posted November 5, 2023 Author Share Posted November 5, 2023 2 hours ago, HowzatFM said: Yes definitely! very nice!! ooo would like to see it once you have played more with it! I just couldn’t get the wide mid playing central consistently The trick was to kind of give up on that bit tbh. Still plays really well though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beverage1982 Posted November 10, 2023 Author Share Posted November 10, 2023 So after the full game release I've come up with a tactic that is somewhat different from where we were at before. There are a few reasons behind the changes. 1 - Defensively it just didn't look like Villa. There was just too much pressing. Ifg you watch us at the moment we barely press when we enter the rest defence, instead we sit in shape and try to force a mistake. 2 - Passing. Diving into the stats we are one of the league's most direct teams. Not long ball direct but breaking the lines direct. We still build up slow and considered but we're not afraid to break the lines. 3 - Luiz. I just did;t like how he was playing for me as a DM and after reading a great bit of analysis on the premier league website I relaised he has to be a playmaker (he has the most passes into final third for us and third most long passes in the league). So I ended up on this. It's been hugely effective so far, not least in the way that Luiz has played. The rest of the team is performing well too, though Ollie is hit and miss and will often get low ratings which is something to keep an eye on. Give this a try though, a key change defensively has been to take step up more off (I've realised it makes the defenders charge out when we want to hold the line) and the press less. It makes no sense with a high line, but then, neither does Emery's approach in real life and that works Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birtan61 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 @beverage1982 What do you think is the role of Watkins and Diaby up front in Emery's system? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowzatFM Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 20 hours ago, Birtan61 said: @beverage1982 What do you think is the role of Watkins and Diaby up front in Emery's system? Watkins has certainly become at Complete Forward this season, 11 goals and 10 assists Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapitalismReimagined Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Can anyone share what's the difference between an IW and a Winger with cut in with ball PI? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahnzo Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 On 04/02/2024 at 06:26, CapitalismReimagined said: Can anyone share what's the difference between an IW and a Winger with cut in with ball PI? I think the IW sits narrower and is more inclined to cut inside. No hard proof on that, just my idea from playing with both in my main tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NineCloudNine Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 (edited) On 04/02/2024 at 09:57, HowzatFM said: Watkins has certainly become at Complete Forward this season, 11 goals and 10 assists Really impressive numbers those. Edited to add: that's from 23 PL games, no penalties, xG of 8.3 and xA of 7.2. That is absolutely top class. Edited February 5 by NineCloudNine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birtan61 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 I think the position of the 2nd striker is the AMC position. offensive midfield attack. Emery usually uses midfielders in that area. Morgan Rogers Mcginn Tielemans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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