janrzm Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, D-Foxx said: How do they brake things that where not broken in the previous edition? We're at the point that bugs are added instead of being solved. Hilarious to be honest. I gather it happens because we're dealing with years of code bolted onto code, or at least that's what I tell myself. I remember the first time I found this forum and thinking to myself, this is great, people reporting bugs the game will just get more and more polished......alas, very naïve of me. I remain hopeful that a move to Unity and a fresh start improves this process because nothing is more tiresome than seeing a previously fixed issue resurface. Edited November 6, 2023 by janrzm 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domoboy23 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 11 minutes ago, chewbaccaloveaddiction said: @Novem9 21 Matches into the season in Spain: It's fine. I mean... those numbers even just going up to 10th dictate a GPG of 3.73. Which is very high when last season in La Liga in 2.5GPG., although I'd anticipate the ones we can't see to lower that. But I'd imagine not by much Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 There's a few of you in here who have taken to either sniping at SI or at each other. Please dont do it or we will remove you from the thread. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillYourIdols Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 I'm off to the bugs forum, should be entertaining reading for the night. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRykuri Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 All these people complaining about bugs and I’ve not encountered not even 1 rest are just nitpicking at the idea of perfection . Having the perfect game 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RodoDS Posted November 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 6, 2023 I thought this was a *feedback* thread? What's wrong with voicing our discomfort with the unresolved problems of the game? 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sootstar07 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Still the same issues! Played 4 games won 4 games: 7-3 / 6-0 / 8-3 / 4-3 No fun, and boring. I’ll not playin this Until…. Hope for an ME update. Sorry about my sad opinion. Thanks 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Just now, RodoDS said: I thought this was a *feedback* thread? What's wrong with voicing our discomfort with the unresolved problems of the game? It's for constructive feedback. Not for sniping, thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mars_Blackmon Posted November 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 6, 2023 "The most complete FM ever" No bug fixes... MLS is broken right now, with international slots disappearing. The league is unplayable outside of year one. It would be greatly appreciated if you could adopt the principle of "underpromising and overdelivering" for the next generation of FM. Thank you. 30 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal_guitarist Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Just now, RodoDS said: I thought this was a *feedback* thread? What's wrong with voicing our discomfort with the unresolved problems of the game? There's a big difference between constructive feedback on things you don't like and abuse/throwing your dummy out. Unfortunately people tend to veer too far towards the latter. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOHNSONFC Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 23 minutes ago, Domoboy23 said: I mean... those numbers even just going up to 10th dictate a GPG of 3.73. Which is very high when last season in La Liga in 2.5GPG., although I'd anticipate the ones we can't see to lower that. But I'd imagine not by much I’m in my 2nd season in Spain and Real Madrid are +23 goal difference after 5 games 😂😂😂😂 lukaku 10 in 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycarrie Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 20 Determination Model Citizen welcoming a 13 determination resolute youngster to the club. A month later (holidayed as a test), youngster has 20 Determination and is a Model Citizen. Have they fixed anything? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewbaccaloveaddiction Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Domoboy23 said: I mean... those numbers even just going up to 10th dictate a GPG of 3.73. Which is very high when last season in La Liga in 2.5GPG., although I'd anticipate the ones we can't see to lower that. But I'd imagine not by much Looks much closer to 2.5 Edited November 6, 2023 by chewbaccaloveaddiction Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenG Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, harrycarrie said: 20 Determination Model Citizen welcoming a 13 determination resolute youngster to the club. A month later (holidayed as a test), youngster has 20 Determination and is a Model Citizen. Have they fixed anything? Sounds like nothing has changed! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, JOHNSONFC said: I’m in my 2nd season in Spain and Real Madrid are +23 goal difference after 5 games 😂😂😂😂 lukaku 10 in 5 They virtually done this in the 87/88 season in real life. 23 goals scored and 1 conceded. Hugo Sanchez with 6 goals in that time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropicsafc Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Brilliant. I enjoyed it last night so I'll enjoy it tonight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 19 minutes ago, metal_guitarist said: There's a big difference between constructive feedback on things you don't like and abuse/throwing your dummy out. Unfortunately people tend to veer too far towards the latter. These threads generally just become "i dont like this, its broken and a bug", or "this hasnt happened in real life so cant happen in a video game", and any genuine feedback just gets swallowed up by it. Do mods actually read these threads or is it just trying to keep all the ranters in one place and away from the actual bugs section? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Teal Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: They virtually done this in the 87/88 season in real life. 23 goals scored and 1 conceded. Hugo Sanchez with 6 goals in that time. That was 35 years ago. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagenham_Dave Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Just now, RandomGuy. said: Do mods actually read these threads or is it just trying to keep all the ranters in one place and away from the actual bugs section? Bingo! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domoboy23 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 9 minutes ago, chewbaccaloveaddiction said: Looks much closer to 2.5 Please confirm you're managing Elche/or the league is in full detail. I haven't had a single full detail sim under 1349 total goals in a season yet. Which is an GPG of 2.91. I note this is La Liga 2 where the average GPG for the last 3 years has been: 2.l02, 2.42, 2.05. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 minute ago, RandomGuy. said: These threads generally just become "i dont like this, its broken and a bug", or "this hasnt happened in real life so cant happen in a video game", and any genuine feedback just gets swallowed up by it. Do mods actually read these threads or is it just trying to keep all the ranters in one place and away from the actual bugs section? Just now, Dagenham_Dave said: Bingo! We do try and read it. Which is why we're very much not interested in ranters. As SI have to wade through it to read the useful constructive critical feedback. We'd rather not boot people but we absolutely will Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOHNSONFC Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: They virtually done this in the 87/88 season in real life. 23 goals scored and 1 conceded. Hugo Sanchez with 6 goals in that time. It makes the game unplayable though. There’s no way to compete with that and as soon as I lose a game my season is over. Nobody has walked the Spanish league for years as far as I can remember. And real just aren’t that good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapoleon Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Kinda weird transfer windows from Chelsea. 34 year old Darmian 32 year old Taremi 34 year old Mkhitaryan 36 year old Sommer I see other teams like man u as well seems to be pretty obsessed with older players as well. Like they spend high amounts for 29 year olds plus. The odd older player i can buy, but seems like too many from what I have seen, by certain teams. Defo poor buys from the AI which weakens their teams too much the deeper you go into the game. On the plus side I have seen man city mostly buying young talents. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zek Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 The pre-game editor is taking ages to load the database, which may be because of my low-end PC. It's working at the normal speed after it's successfully loaded, however. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal_guitarist Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: These threads generally just become "i dont like this, its broken and a bug", or "this hasnt happened in real life so cant happen in a video game", and any genuine feedback just gets swallowed up by it. Do mods actually read these threads or is it just trying to keep all the ranters in one place and away from the actual bugs section? That's definitely an upside at times We do read the threads though and step in where needed if people overstep the mark to try and keep the thread useful for SI. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunk105 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Lots of annoying offsides from short corners. Taker to edge of box, pass back to taker who is offside. Still really enjoying it though. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post diLLa88 Posted November 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 6, 2023 Well, as the complaints of mine have already been recorded in the bug section with plenty of examples in the past few weeks I can only resort back to ranting here. 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianscousemac Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 The amount of goals is ruining the game for me. It is great apart from this issue. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenG Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 minute ago, metal_guitarist said: That's definitely an upside at times We do read the threads though and step in where needed if people overstep the mark to try and keep the thread useful for SI. It would be good if there is more open communication from SI part though. A simple confirmation of "no bug related changes have occurred" would stop many people asking the same question! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal_guitarist Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Just now, dunk105 said: Lots of annoying offsides from short corners. Taker to edge of box, pass back to taker who is offside. Still really enjoying it though. Add a "Come Short" instruction to a player, it should cut down the number of times this happens. Is a known issue though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Frederico EJ Posted November 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 6, 2023 Started new game after release... 1st opening game - Alisson breaks his arm 2nd game of the season - Adrian breaks his wrist Surely they would have fixed the GK injury issue as it was reported weeks ago...? 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mush1983 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 is there licensing issues with japan still?no juan mata in game checked with editor as well. some one did report it in early access or we waiting for a update to fix this like many other things ?Juan Mata and Balint Vecsei are missing from Vissel Kobe - Japan Data Issues - Sports Interactive Community (sigames.com) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, diLLa88 said: Well, as the complaints of mine have already been recorded in the bug section with plenty of examples in the past few weeks I can only resort back to ranting here. Then you can leave SI to work through then. You dont need to rant in there, and i suggest you dont, thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAlwaysWin Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Frederico EJ said: Started new game after release... 1st opening game - Alisson breaks his arm 2nd game of the season - Adrian breaks his wrist Surely they would have fixed the GK injury issue as it was reported weeks ago...? This would be really annoying but as they have added the ability of goalkeepers actually getting regular injuries, bad luck will always play a part, really unfortunate for you but this is not the norm all the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal_guitarist Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Just now, Mush1983 said: is there licensing issues with japan still?no juan mata in game checked with editor as well. some one did report it in early access or we waiting for a update to fix this like many other things ?Juan Mata and Balint Vecsei are missing from Vissel Kobe - Japan Data Issues - Sports Interactive Community (sigames.com) There are still some ongoing licensing issues, yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carninho Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 2 games into my existing beta save and i've had 5 injuries of various lengths Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mush1983 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 minute ago, metal_guitarist said: There are still some ongoing licensing issues, yes. thanks for the answer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, Mr Teal said: That was 35 years ago. And? Its happened in real life so its clearly not a bug? Freak things happen in football all the time. About 15 years ago Hearts started a season winning all of their first 8 games, scoring 21 goals in that time, and then went on to have a record of 2 losses in their first 20. That would be flagged up on here from human managers if the AI done it i reckon, as would them then randomly sacking the manager during that run. 2 minutes ago, JOHNSONFC said: It makes the game unplayable though. There’s no way to compete with that and as soon as I lose a game my season is over. Thats football. Liverpool only lost 1 league game in 18/19 and still didnt win the league. Theres been 13 seasons where a La Liga side has lost less than 3 games over a season in the past 30 years. Its not uncommon for teams to run through the division, particularly Barcelona and Real Madrid. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brawla123 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Still seeing loads of shots hitting the woodwork, I’d rather they just go wide! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederico EJ Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, iAlwaysWin said: This would be really annoying but as they have added the ability of goalkeepers actually getting regular injuries, bad luck will always play a part, really unfortunate for you but this is not the norm all the time. 3 days later in game... Another GK injury 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post craiigman Posted November 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, metal_guitarist said: There are still some ongoing licensing issues, yes. That's surely something that should be publicly communicated, considering it's full release and it's the first time the league has been in the game. In the depths of an online forum is rather disappointing. 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VP. Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 2D looks beautiful this year 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sunstrikuuu Posted November 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 minute ago, RandomGuy. said: And? Its happened in real life so its clearly not a bug? Freak things happen in football all the time. About 15 years ago Hearts started a season winning all of their first 8 games, scoring 21 goals in that time, and then went on to have a record of 2 losses in their first 20. That would be flagged up on here from human managers if the AI done it i reckon, as would them then randomly sacking the manager during that run. Thats football. Liverpool only lost 1 league game in 18/19 and still didnt win the league. Theres been 13 seasons where a La Liga side has lost less than 3 games over a season in the past 30 years. Its not uncommon for teams to run through the division, particularly Barcelona and Real Madrid. While I agree with you, it's also a dodge that gets used a lot here. People report patterns of behavior that don't feel right, then they're told of isolated incidents as if that makes the pattern OK. It's like telling people Kazu Miura is still playing when they think it's weird that players aren't retiring until they turn 43. Well there's this one old guy, so that makes all the other old guys okay, because it could happen!. It could, but it mostly doesn't. A freak thing happening is a freak thing. A freak thing happening to multiple people across multiple saves is an indication that maybe it's not a freak thing. 2 hours ago, DarJ said: Why do you care so much about what the game calls your tactic? They can't read your mind and don't know what you're trying to create Because if the feature doesn't work logically then don't have the feature. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPompey Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 18 minutes ago, Zapoleon said: Kinda weird transfer windows from Chelsea. 34 year old Darmian 32 year old Taremi 34 year old Mkhitaryan 36 year old Sommer I see other teams like man u as well seems to be pretty obsessed with older players as well. Like they spend high amounts for 29 year olds plus. The odd older player i can buy, but seems like too many from what I have seen, by certain teams. Defo poor buys from the AI which weakens their teams too much the deeper you go into the game. On the plus side I have seen man city mostly buying young talents. Could this be a data issue if it is an intent e.g. should boards set or have expectations of investing in young talent. Could be worth a restart and soak with this set to see if it makes any difference. Ferguson / Man U seemed to do this in the past with amazing youth talent they brought through the ranks in the past Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViG1980 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 hour ago, diLLa88 said: Some examples: No or hardly any subs being used, which results in easy games midway in the season. Having to face Real Madrid with half of its squad jaded is not really exciting to me. Side-effect of above is that youngster are not getting game time, which results in players not developing. Completely ruins long-term games for me. I just had 22 players in mutiny because they felt that i did not have enough depth in Goalkeeping. Fair enough I thought and signed 3 goalkeepers, only to have 22 players wanting to leave after having broken my promise to strengthen it. I had to actually buy the ingame editor to fix my save game. They might not be gamebreaking to you, but they are to me. Yep. Agree. Game breaking. 1 is game breaking in the short term. 2 breaks the long term. 3 is bad. If the top 2 didn’t exist, I’d put up with the bottom one for a while. The top two destroy the game though. It’s a simulation. If you’re going to make a fancy spreadsheet, it better be a good spreadsheet. Otherwise you’ve got a ****** game of excel. PS I love FM. But I’ve been waiting years for the long term stuff to be fixed. And it resulted in me not buying the game last year. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldo67 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Is 24.1 the newest update from the full release today? I've been playing the beta and I'm going to start my proper long save. But I didn't see the game updating and I only have the option to choose 'football manager 24' as the database. The game shows 24.1 as the current database. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOHNSONFC Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 8 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: And? Its happened in real life so its clearly not a bug? Freak things happen in football all the time. About 15 years ago Hearts started a season winning all of their first 8 games, scoring 21 goals in that time, and then went on to have a record of 2 losses in their first 20. That would be flagged up on here from human managers if the AI done it i reckon, as would them then randomly sacking the manager during that run. Thats football. Liverpool only lost 1 league game in 18/19 and still didnt win the league. Theres been 13 seasons where a La Liga side has lost less than 3 games over a season in the past 30 years. Its not uncommon for teams to run through the division, particularly Barcelona and Real Madrid. Last 10 seasons nobody’s won more than 30 games so It is highly uncommon in recent years which I assume the scouting and rating is based on. Certainly neither Barca or real win every game by 5 goals even if they do go on long winning runs. The goals are an issue in the game. Just because it happened once 35 years ago doesn’t excuse it. It won’t be a freak thing either will it, real won’t just go back to proper results next season, I’ve seen it in other saves you basically need 95+ points to even sniff the title Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal_guitarist Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Can we take that conversation elsewhere please, it's dragging on now and this thread is for feedback. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
llama3 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 I've tried looking at where to log as a bug, but I cannot actually find where to start a new topic... but an issue I've reported for FM23 as well, when I put in real fixtures the start date disappears and I cannot actually start the game with real fixtures. It is a real disappointment that this hasn't been fixed in over 12 months, as a hangover issue from FM23. It's a big touch of the realism thing for me, so a real shame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JOHNSONFC Posted November 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, metal_guitarist said: Can we take that conversation elsewhere please, it's dragging on now and this thread is for feedback. Unrealistic goal scoring is feedback mate 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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