giglet13 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Working in editor as it opens and 'short name' for nation resets whenever over typed - a bit like a created B team can't change name. Anybody know why or how it could be changed or why? Big issue with any create a nation DB... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giglet13 Posted November 6, 2023 Author Share Posted November 6, 2023 Think it might be a bug, can also see no Kits are visible or work in the pre-game editor either... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frednerd Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Im having the same issue with my custom nation DB, short name is stuck as the name of the old nation. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
suttefar123 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Yeah it seems to be bugged, i had the same issue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giglet13 Posted November 6, 2023 Author Share Posted November 6, 2023 I've raised as bug if you can flag too. I'm sure a good edt file could over ride but it feels like a bug Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fracsauce Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 2 hours ago, giglet13 said: I've raised as bug if you can flag too. I'm sure a good edt file could over ride but it feels like a bug how do you do this I tried to change the nation name in an INC file but it didn't work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zangelmi Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) here is the same , i have my greenland file and I import to fm 24 and short name is C.I.S and i cant change Edited November 7, 2023 by zangelmi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alian62 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 hour ago, zangelmi said: here is the same , i have my greenland file and I import to fm 24 and short name is C.I.S and i cant change I raised this 2 weeks ago when i got the Beta . You think it would of been fixed by now 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 2 hours ago, alian62 said: I raised this 2 weeks ago when i got the Beta . You think it would of been fixed by now This is not top of the list during the beta phase, as much as I would want that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zxahnjy Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 I experienced the same with my custom nation DB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giglet13 Posted November 7, 2023 Author Share Posted November 7, 2023 7 hours ago, Wolf_pd said: This is not top of the list during the beta phase, as much as I would want that. Think last big pre game editor release errors took about 2 weeks for a hotfix.. we expecting the same for a fix again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 11 minutes ago, giglet13 said: Think last big pre game editor release errors took about 2 weeks for a hotfix.. we expecting the same for a fix again? Impossible for me to answer as a moderator. Also depends on what outside the editor is happening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giglet13 Posted November 7, 2023 Author Share Posted November 7, 2023 No worries - didn't know level of insight you might have on it. Fingers crossed it can be fixed quickly 🤞👍 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenatoDonarinho Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 On 07/11/2023 at 03:58, zangelmi said: here is the same , i have my greenland file and I import to fm 24 and short name is C.I.S and i cant change How do you manage regen names with your nation DB? I’ve created a new nation using Andorra but when I run a few seasons in all the players name are Spanish sounding Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zangelmi Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 1 hora atrás, RenatoDonarinho disse: How do you manage regen names with your nation DB? I’ve created a new nation using Andorra but when I run a few seasons in all the players name are Spanish sounding Hi friend, I changed language of the country and regen name following the default country language Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleiria Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenatoDonarinho Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 1 hour ago, zangelmi said: Hi friend, I changed language of the country and regen name following the default country language Thanks, I’ve done that but still no luck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themodelcitizen Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 2 hours ago, RenatoDonarinho said: Thanks, I’ve done that but still no luck Some countries are hard-coded to have a certain name list. It wouldn't surprise me if Andorra was one of those, or if they were hard-coded to the same namelist as Catalan cities. You can try changing the "language" of the city, the local region, and the nation itself, if that doesn't work, you might be screwed with Andorra Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenatoDonarinho Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 7 hours ago, themodelcitizen said: Some countries are hard-coded to have a certain name list. It wouldn't surprise me if Andorra was one of those, or if they were hard-coded to the same namelist as Catalan cities. You can try changing the "language" of the city, the local region, and the nation itself, if that doesn't work, you might be screwed with Andorra I changed Andorra so it had no cities, regions or people. I’ve added my own cities and changed the language. Next step is to add a load of random people to the nation and see if the game uses those names instead Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 How many players/persons do you have? In some testing I noticed you needed to pass a certain treshold, usually about 50-100 people, but sometimes up to 250. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themodelcitizen Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 You can add 100+ year old referees, I think they won't actually appear but will just populate the name pool Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenatoDonarinho Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 Just went in and changed the nationality of 1500 English people to my nation but still creating clubs with the Andorran name pool.....i'll try adding some new Refs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themodelcitizen Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 I reckon Andorra's got a hard-coded name list, they want them to pull from a wide Catalan namepool that can also affect newgens born in Catalunya, I bet. This probably isn't something you want to hear at this point but it might be worth restarting with a blank slate. Some of the extinct nations have empty name-pools but in terms of active micro-states you can write over and they'll still compete in everything, I'm not too sure which is best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themodelcitizen Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 Some light reading This guy even used Andorra and had issues: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenatoDonarinho Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 27 minutes ago, themodelcitizen said: Some light reading This guy even used Andorra and had issues: Awesome, thank you. Quickly added in 25 officials and players are being created with the names in with Andorran names. I wasn’t planning on creating squads with players in but might be the only way around it to reduce the names seen….I don’t really want to start again as I’ve already added pretty much everything but added detail for half the clubs. Even looked at the option of using an extinct nation but that causes issues with Nations League that I don’t want to unpick lol 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenatoDonarinho Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 13 hours ago, themodelcitizen said: Some light reading This guy even used Andorra and had issues: So after some thought and after adding over 150 officials and it not working. I’m going to not add players to playable clubs on game startup and I’m going to create around 10,000 custom regens using the EDT files (I have an excel that creates them randomly based on my list of names). Then I will see if I can flood the teams with enough players to drown out the base list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themodelcitizen Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Brute force technique, hahah love it. Let us know how it looks after a few years of simming. It's particularly satisfying when the game is still doing something annoying but you can find a way to functionally get around it anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thundercracker Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 I only got FM24 this morning and discovered the C.I.S issue. Have we discovered a work around yet over the past week? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleiria Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 4 horas atrás, thundercracker disse: I only got FM24 this morning and discovered the C.I.S issue. Have we discovered a work around yet over the past week? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitza Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 I'm losing my mind over this, I hope to God it gets fixed next patch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Mitza said: I'm losing my mind over this, I hope to God it gets fixed next patch There is a workaround, see the post above yours. No need to lose your mind, although I hope with you it gets fixed with the next patch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbenjaminx Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Currency names have the same problem. When you edit them they bounce straight back to what they were. Really annoying. Exchange rate is changeable though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 10 hours ago, xbenjaminx said: Currency names have the same problem. When you edit them they bounce straight back to what they were. Really annoying. Exchange rate is changeable though. Not sure currency name could be changed last year though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alian62 Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 You can use a fix we can't mention here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleiria Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 1 hora atrás, alian62 disse: You can use a fix we can't mention here. Can you send me a PM? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 It is the name fix that you can't mention. It is OK for the short name fix, but for the ones that can be downloaded from elsewhere are preferably not to be discussed. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbenjaminx Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 22 hours ago, Wolf_pd said: Not sure currency name could be changed last year though. @Wolf_pd I think it's more a case of adding new currencies than changing existing ones, although the name changes would be nitpicky. I vaguely remember adding the Saint Helenian pound and some of the Channel Island Currencies when I was exploring the PGE last year. Maybe changing the current ones could be done through an lnc file if someone knows the handle to use, which I think is what @alian62 was suggesting? The principle would essentially be the same? @cleiria your mod is pretty versatile and you seem to know a lot about the inner workings of FM so thought you'd be the best person to ask. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, xbenjaminx said: @Wolf_pd I think it's more a case of adding new currencies than changing existing ones, although the name changes would be nitpicky. I vaguely remember adding the Saint Helenian pound and some of the Channel Island Currencies when I was exploring the PGE last year. Maybe changing the current ones could be done through an lnc file if someone knows the handle to use, which I think is what @alian62 was suggesting? The principle would essentially be the same? @cleiria your mod is pretty versatile and you seem to know a lot about the inner workings of FM so thought you'd be the best person to ask. Best to keep those currency questions together in the thread in the download section, so we can address them together instead of taking this thread away from the main subject. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameuss Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 (edited) This seems to now be resolved in the latest update. Would be nice for a change list to see if there's anything else other than this and the kit updates EDIT: Looks like it was just those two based on the overall patch notes Edited November 30, 2023 by forameuss 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
\'Appy \'Ammer Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 On 18/11/2023 at 22:46, cleiria said: Can I use this for the long name too? I can change Soviet Union to Russia, but I can't change the Commonwealth of Soviet States (CIS) to Belarus. In game I get Russia, but I still get CIS or the long name too. Annoying the hell out of me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 I think the file contains entries for both long and short name, so yes, should work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleiria Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 4 minutos atrás, \'Appy \'Ammer disse: Can I use this for the long name too? I can change Soviet Union to Russia, but I can't change the Commonwealth of Soviet States (CIS) to Belarus. In game I get Russia, but I still get CIS or the long name too. Annoying the hell out of me. Try to substitute SHORT with LONG. "NATION_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" Nation UID "Nation name" "" 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
\'Appy \'Ammer Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 I must be doing something silly as I can't get the name to change, long or short. I have put ... "NATION_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 574 "Belarus" "" "NATION_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 574 "Belarus" "" ... into the nation.inc file and saved it in ...Steam\steamapps\common\Football Manager 2024\data\database\db\2400\lnc. I have cleared cache and reloaded the skin but still I am reading CIS instead of Belarus. What have I done wrong? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleiria Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 5 horas atrás, \'Appy \'Ammer disse: I must be doing something silly as I can't get the name to change, long or short. I have put ... "NATION_SHORT_NAME_CHANGE" 574 "Belarus" "" "NATION_LONG_NAME_CHANGE" 574 "Belarus" "" ... into the nation.inc file and saved it in ...Steam\steamapps\common\Football Manager 2024\data\database\db\2400\lnc. I have cleared cache and reloaded the skin but still I am reading CIS instead of Belarus. What have I done wrong? It is in Portuguese, but you can see it work. nation.lnc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
\'Appy \'Ammer Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Thanks @cleiria, I have the same in my inc file. After lots of fiddling about I now realise this only works when you start a new save! Schoolboy error from me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleiria Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 5 horas atrás, \'Appy \'Ammer disse: Thanks @cleiria, I have the same in my inc file. After lots of fiddling about I now realise this only works when you start a new save! Schoolboy error from me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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