[FM24] ITCH, ETCH & ATCH - International, European & Americas Team Competition Histories

[CFuller]

Back for a fourth season in a row, ITCH might just be for you if you love managing in international football, or even if you merely like having accurate national team histories.

This file gives every national team in FM24 complete histories from various tournaments. Using Wikipedia and RSSSF for reference, I have added data for all the qualifying and final stages of World Cups and continental championships, plus other in-game competitions such as the Confederations Cup. My update is designed to be as CORRECT, COMPLETE, and CONSISTENT as possible.

I have completely erased all national team histories from the database and inserted my own data for every country from Afghanistan to Zimbabwe. This means that my file will be compatible with the original and updated FM24 databases.

I created ITCH after becoming appalled at the standard of national team history data in the original database. While the histories for some countries like England were fairly accurate, the histories for other countries like Spain were badly lacking, while many did not have any history at all. For example, some nations that had previously qualified for World Cups were not shown as having done so. This update rectifies such errors and omissions.

My ETCH update adds full continental competition histories to clubs in Europe. My ATCH update adds continental competition histories to teams in North, Central and South America, and the Caribbean.

ETCH adds data for all the qualifying and final stages of every official UEFA club competition since 1955, including the Champions League, the Europa League and now the Europa Conference League. ATCH adds data for all the qualifying and final stages of every official CONMEBOL and CONCACAF club competition since 1960, including the Copa Libertadores and the CONCACAF Champions League.

I hope you enjoy using these files as much as I enjoyed creating them. I would also like to thank @magicmastermind124, without whose help the creations of these databases would have taken much longer than they did.

SAMPLE IMAGES

ITCH

ETCH

ATCH

QUESTIONS & ANSWERS

Q. How many changes have you made to the database?

A. Around 53,000 on ITCH, 86,000 on ETCH, and 32,000 on ATCH.

Q. Why is there no data for age-group tournaments, such as the Olympic Games or the FIFA U-20 World Cup on ITCH?

A. Currently, it is impossible to add past tournament data specifically for age-group teams. Only a small number of national teams had histories for such tournaments, so I have removed those from the database for now. However, I am considering the possibility of adding age-group tournament data in a future update - perhaps for FM25.

Q. I have started a new save game with your ETCH and ATCH updates and I cannot find continental competition histories for clubs in certain countries. Why?

A. When Football Manager creates a new save game, it will only load changes for clubs in the nation(s) that you have loaded. For example, if you load just the English leagues, FM will only load full continental histories for English clubs. It also means that you'll need to install custom leagues to see complete histories for clubs based in nations such as Cyprus and Lithuania, which don't have leagues in the original database. Unfortunately, there is nothing I can do about this.

Q. Why is there no data for the UEFA Nations League and the CONCACAF Nations League?

A. When FM24 records new tournament histories for the Nations Leagues, it records the finishing position and the group number, but not the division. I have reported this bug to Sports Interactive for several versions now and they still have not fixed it. Until it is fixed, I will not include any data from the UEFA Nations League or the CONCACAF Nations League in this update.

Q. What about African, Asian and Oceanic clubs?

A. I do want to cover CAF, AFC and OFC continental competitions in future.

In terms of Africa, the main reason I haven't covered that continent yet is because there's only one African league in the main game right now (South Africa) - unless you download custom leagues. Adding competiton histories for African clubs is only worthwhile if you have their leagues loaded. Until SI include more African leagues in the game by default (and I hope they do in future) instead of you having to download them yourself, I'm afraid that very few people will benefit from this.

I would like to include Asian competition histories soon, given that there are now more Asian leagues in the main game. However, my top priority with regards to TCH 2025 is adding competition histories for women's international tournaments and the UEFA Women's Champions League.

Q. Will these be compatible with other files?

A. ITCH, ETCH and ATCH are all confirmed to be compatible with one another. I am also confident that they won't clash clash with any other files that DO NOT also edit national team or club history data.

Q. I've noticed a mistake or a discrepancy in one of your files. What should I do?

A. You can either leave a reply in this thread or contact me via PM. If I have made any errors, I will look to rectify them and bring out a new version of the relevant update in due course.

 

DOWNLOAD LINKS

ITCH - Steam Workshop (2024.0) / Direct Download (2024.0)

ETCH - Steam Workshop (2024.0) / Direct Download (2024.0)

ATCH - Steam Workshop (2024.0) / Direct Download (2024.0)

Edited November 8, 2023 by CFuller

[Rob 396]

Excellent work again.

One thing to note for ETCH.

FCSB (ID 1513) and Steaua (ID 57141891) have an ongoing dispute about club history, latest ruling was that FCSB have the club history from 1947-2003, Steaua have it from 1947-1998

So I would recommend they share the same European Team Cup History until 1998, when they diverge

It was a real headache for me to figure all this out in my History Revision file, basically that's what I did - share and duplicate all titles and cup wins until 1998, so they both won the European Cup in 1986 etc.

It's something that's just not reflected in-game because it's an ongoing dispute

Anyway, totally up to you - just thought I'd raise it as a point of interest (if someone can find this kind of thing interesting )

Edited November 8, 2023 by Rob 396

[CFuller]

On 08/11/2023 at 19:33, Rob 396 said:

Excellent work again.

One thing to note for ETCH.

FCSB (ID 1513) and Steaua (ID 57141891) have an ongoing dispute about club history, latest ruling was that FCSB have the club history from 1947-2003, Steaua have it from 1947-1998

So I would recommend they share the same European Team Cup History until 1998, when they diverge

It was a real headache for me to figure all this out in my History Revision file, basically that's what I did - share and duplicate all titles and cup wins until 1998, so they both won the European Cup in 1986 etc.

It's something that's just not reflected in-game because it's an ongoing dispute

Anyway, totally up to you - just thought I'd raise it as a point of interest (if someone can find this kind of thing interesting )

Apologies for the late response. It's a very complicated case, and I don't envy you trying to get your head around it for your file. 

For the time being, I'm going to stick with assigning all records until 2002/2003 to CSA Steaua, and all records from 2003/2004 onwards to FCSB (this seems to be how it's treated in the Romanian competition histories in-game).

I would rather not duplicate entries and have two different teams share the exact same record for a particular year (or years). Likewise, I will only apply Czechoslovakia's competition results to Czechia (but not to Slovakia as well), though this is obviously a very different case.

[wfm18]

I love these files. I hope one day there will be an Oceanian (OFC), Asian (AFC) and African (CAF) version of the TCH files too! This just brings FM up to a new level, where I strongly believe this should have already been part of the database of SI and not a community fmf file.

[magicmastermind124]

It's good to see this is still going really strong!

I don't suppose I could trouble you to PM me the TCH templates you have for FM24?

I've got the itch (pun intended) to carry on the TCH's I had started for the English lower leagues, with an added eventual focus of the UK and Ireland.

[DazRTaylor]

Thanks mate.  Been waiting for this.  Essential for me for my main saves.

[daniel negura]

romanian history screenshots please

[cameosis]

brilliant and wonderful work, many thanks for improving a game immensely.

[CFuller]

1 hour ago, Luke_Shawly said:

Hi, compatible with newest fm24 Database (winter Patch) ?
Cheers

It should be compatible.

[CFuller]

There won't be any further updates to the TCH files for FM24 - though they do work on the latest patch. But I thought I'd give you an update on how things are looking for FM25.

I've already started compiling more data for TCH 2025. I've now built spreadsheets with all the relevant data for the major women's international tournaments, plus the Women's Champions League and the Copa Libertadores Femenina. More data will be added once I know how far this new women's database goes.

I'm also looking into adding data for the Olympic Games and other age-group tournaments (U23/U21/etc). As mentioned in the OP, I cannot currently add any past tournament data specifically for age-group teams... but IF any of you have found a way to do this, please let me know about it.

Lastly, I'm actually considering merging ETCH and ATCH into one file next season, which will cover all UEFA, CONCACAF and CONMEBOL club competitions as well as intercontinental competitions (such as the Club World Cup). I will also add AFC, OFC and CAF competitions to that file over time. (ITCH will remain a separate file regardless, as that covers all the international tournaments.)

How would you feel about that? Should I have all club competition histories in one file, or should I keep Europe and the Americas separate?

Edited May 21 by CFuller

[gabbfx]

All in one file i prefer!