themodelcitizen Posted June 26 Author Share Posted June 26 Oh yeah, I can see they added a roster for Carolina. Not much point with the USL-C salary bug right now mind you, could really use some help sorting that. As for Chattanooga, did they update the roster or are those just the lads they had in NISA? Ideally they'd play in NISA first season, then a whole bunch of future transfers would go through and they'd switch to MLSNP, just not sure if we can facilitate that cleanly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerman500 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Just now, themodelcitizen said: Oh yeah, I can see they added a roster for Carolina. Not much point with the USL-C salary bug right now mind you, could really use some help sorting that. As for Chattanooga, did they update the roster or are those just the lads they had in NISA? Ideally they'd play in NISA first season, then a whole bunch of future transfers would go through and they'd switch to MLSNP, just not sure if we can facilitate that cleanly to be honest i just want a team i can replace in MLS Next Pro that doesn't any affiliates Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grim7591 Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 On 26/06/2024 at 15:45, themodelcitizen said: Oh yeah, I can see they added a roster for Carolina. Not much point with the USL-C salary bug right now mind you, could really use some help sorting that. What's the best way to help? I really want a playable US database so I'm invested. I fixed a bug with the pre game editor with the Swedish database in FM23 and I use SQL at work. I don't know if either of those things would make me useful or helpful but I'm here. Do you have any leads? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themodelcitizen Posted June 28 Author Share Posted June 28 (edited) I'm off to Florida for Copa (go Canada!!) but will have a sit-down next week/end and see what works, if anything. I think using another comp ID might help, but I have a feeling it's something with finances (although in one test I gave them insane budgets and tv money and the board still thought they were broke whenever you went into contract negotiations with a player) Edited June 28 by themodelcitizen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmfan00 Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 When i went to go download your database i got this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpole Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 On 29/06/2024 at 14:25, Fmfan00 said: When i went to go download your database i got this My first thought is wrong database version selected at the start of the game (or two files loaded with changes to usa) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themodelcitizen Posted July 2 Author Share Posted July 2 Yeah, if no one else is encountering that issue (and looks like you have loads of other DBs enabled) this one's not on me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grim7591 Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 On 28/06/2024 at 15:01, themodelcitizen said: I'm off to Florida for Copa (go Canada!!) but will have a sit-down next week/end and see what works, if anything. I think using another comp ID might help, but I have a feeling it's something with finances (although in one test I gave them insane budgets and tv money and the board still thought they were broke whenever you went into contract negotiations with a player) Isn't the comp ID just a unique identifier? Do you think it's picking up some financial rules under the hood from an existing comp ID? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themodelcitizen Posted July 29 Author Share Posted July 29 On 08/07/2024 at 14:33, grim7591 said: Isn't the comp ID just a unique identifier? Do you think it's picking up some financial rules under the hood from an existing comp ID? I was wondering if there was some hard-coding with USL to keep them from offering MLS-level contracts in the background so they don't compete for players. But just a guess. Would be really indebted to anyone else who can help troubleshoot and trial+error fixes, I've hit my head against the wall a lot on this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigMattic1 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 On 29/07/2024 at 17:11, themodelcitizen said: I was wondering if there was some hard-coding with USL to keep them from offering MLS-level contracts in the background so they don't compete for players. But just a guess. Would be really indebted to anyone else who can help troubleshoot and trial+error fixes, I've hit my head against the wall a lot on this I'm assuming salary caps wouldn't work? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themodelcitizen Posted August 1 Author Share Posted August 1 Like adding a minimum wage? I don't think so, don't have it in front of me but I think they'd just offer that amount as the max too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheez3y Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 I noticed a minor bug. It triggers me, but its only visual. Titles will not display in the honours sections. Only the Conference Titles, MLS Cup and Supporters Shield are displaying and counting up. Those 3 competitions are the problem. Spoiler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themodelcitizen Posted August 7 Author Share Posted August 7 Isn't that happening in the default game too? Should be a minor fix mind you, maybe we can add a stage finished action or something (or clean up the rankings) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmfan00 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 (edited) On 06/08/2024 at 22:31, themodelcitizen said: Isn't that happening in the default game too? Should be a minor fix mind you, maybe we can add a stage finished action or something (or clean up the rankings) QUestion... I want to take the MLS academy's and put them into a league like your have MLS Next Pro. If i copy the MLS Next Pro settings you have in the advanced rules and replace them with the academy teams would that work? Edited August 29 by Fmfan00 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerman500 Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 can you create the USA divisions into 2024? so i could play as Chattanooga FC or Carolina Core FC in MLS Next Pro. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themodelcitizen Posted September 9 Author Share Posted September 9 Gonna try and fix the bug/update leagues this month if I can get a hold of the USL-C issue 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerman500 Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 Is there a way to have academy players play in MLS Next Pro matches for their teams? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themodelcitizen Posted September 12 Author Share Posted September 12 Not as far as I know, I've tried enabling a bunch of the settings like that look like they should encourage teams to loan players more, including in the affiliation itself, but you know how terrible AI is at squad management. Same with how the MLS coaches won't constantly loan guys from their '2" team in and out of the first team depending on roster needs, like MLS clubs do in real life Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themodelcitizen Posted September 13 Author Share Posted September 13 Think I got the salary bug issue. Will do a fresh release this weekend 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themodelcitizen Posted September 13 Author Share Posted September 13 Fixed. New version up now, @Charles1970 @CluHaywood. Sorry for the delay, the April update seemed to have messed with the salary cap in USL-C in weird ways, so I've dropped it now (it was an agreement with the players' union in real life, but the AI will be unlikely to go above that number anyway). @RampageScience suggested it as an issue earlier but I completely missed it, odd that USL-1 was handling it fine, although I've dropped it there too just in case. Will work on Carolina/Chattanooga in MLSNP this weekend @Tigerman500, did they add any other new rosters in the April update that I haven't accounted for yet? Will also try to add missing stuff like competition records 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerman500 Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 4 hours ago, themodelcitizen said: Fixed. New version up now, @Charles1970 @CluHaywood. Sorry for the delay, the April update seemed to have messed with the salary cap in USL-C in weird ways, so I've dropped it now (it was an agreement with the players' union in real life, but the AI will be unlikely to go above that number anyway). @RampageScience suggested it as an issue earlier but I completely missed it, odd that USL-1 was handling it fine, although I've dropped it there too just in case. Will work on Carolina/Chattanooga in MLSNP this weekend @Tigerman500, did they add any other new rosters in the April update that I haven't accounted for yet? Will also try to add missing stuff like competition records no idea but thanks for adding Carolina/Chattanooga. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themodelcitizen Posted September 13 Author Share Posted September 13 Might keep Chattanooga in NISA for now, it doesn't look like SI added the NISA expansion teams so this can keep it at a clean 9 teams in the 2023 format. Carolina definitely need a home though, even if it's gonna take me all afternoon to try and remember how I even set up the MLSNP fixtures and squeeze them in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themodelcitizen Posted September 13 Author Share Posted September 13 (edited) Should I try and get the Open Cup to exclude a bunch of MLS teams like in real life? I kept them in last time I was working on this for a few reasons It looked really hard, I still don't like the idea of them sitting out, The default MLS was built to accommodate it in the fixture calendar so there's room for it Any thoughts? I guess it could open up more room to rest players and maybe have MLS stop playing on international breaks EDIT: think I got it working in 2024 (second season) the same way as IRL with MLS and MLS Next Pro teams. One less trophy to play for if you're regularly qualifying for the Champions Cup and thereby excluded from the Open Cup, but realism is the goal here Edited September 14 by themodelcitizen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Perfect, I was waiting for the salary bug to be fixed before downloading this. Thanks a lot! Just out of curiosity, how did you manage to make it work? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themodelcitizen Posted September 14 Author Share Posted September 14 (edited) On 14/09/2024 at 06:57, Javier said: Perfect, I was waiting for the salary bug to be fixed before downloading this. Thanks a lot! Just out of curiosity, how did you manage to make it work? Just had to drop the USL-C salary cap entirely, which used to work... not sure if it's interacting with the minimum full-time player limit in some weird way since the update and I can experiment with that (edit: no, salary cap doesn't work anyway), but it's working now without the hard cap. Also added Carolina Core to the MLSNP and made the Open Cup format in the second season (and onward) accurate for 2024. Added a bunch of competition records too, might start adding some club records for even more immersion, but it's definitely ready to play Also played with scheduling in leagues like MLSNP, NISA, USL2 etc so that you (mostly) play teams in your region more than others, but with some variation year-on-year Edited September 16 by themodelcitizen 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaMi 7 Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 Sorry if my question is yet done but I am not able to find it and the answer to it. With this DB will also San Diego MLS team in the 2025 season? Same for the other team that start to play in the 2025. Thanks in advance for your ansers and sorry for my not perfect english. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themodelcitizen Posted September 15 Author Share Posted September 15 No, too hard to add teams to MLS with drafts, affiliations etc without breaking it all 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaMi 7 Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 13 ore fa, themodelcitizen ha scritto: No, too hard to add teams to MLS with drafts, affiliations etc without breaking it all Ok, thanks a lot for your answer TMC 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themodelcitizen Posted September 16 Author Share Posted September 16 Interestingly someone on another site said their Board accepted their request to create a 'II' team with Omaha (USL1) but then they had no staff, players or fixtures and they couldn't hire anyone for them. Sounds like that option is intended for more normal league setups and hits a wall with the convoluted US system. If we had a usual reserve league set up like most countries, maybe they would have popped up in that. At one point I had MLS NEXT Pro set up as a reserve division but it wouldn't work as well now with independent clubs like Carolina Core in there. We might be able to block teams from having that option available, but in the mean time let me know if anyone's seen anything like that. Maybe we could set up a U23/boys division based on something like one of the IRL academy leagues and you could add a B team there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerman500 Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 how is the work doing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themodelcitizen Posted September 16 Author Share Posted September 16 1 hour ago, Tigerman500 said: how is the work doing? She's good to go. Go ahead and play. Just made some tweaks to the Open Cup to replicate the 2024 format (starting in 2024) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerman500 Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 (edited) On 13/09/2024 at 12:18, themodelcitizen said: Might keep Chattanooga in NISA for now, it doesn't look like SI added the NISA expansion teams so this can keep it at a clean 9 teams in the 2023 format. Carolina definitely need a home though, even if it's gonna take me all afternoon to try and remember how I even set up the MLSNP fixtures and squeeze them in New teams: Georgia Lions FC, Arizona Monsoon FC, Capo FC and Irvine Zeta FC. Teams that left: Albion San Diego, Chattanooga FC, City Union and Gold Star FC. Capo FC is in the game. They are in USL2 Southwest Division. The other teams are not in the game. Edited September 17 by Tigerman500 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themodelcitizen Posted September 17 Author Share Posted September 17 Right, but who's gonna create 100+ players, staff, facilities, kits etc for them. Might as well keep the original NISA teams in there as they have all this stuff already, unless you want half a league of greyed out players. And keeping Chatta in NISA means it's still an even 9 teams and we can keep the 2023 format. They did switch to 4- and 5-team conferences this year, but they only work with the new 2024 team lineup (in 2023 there are only 2 western teams so having those conferences doesn't make sense). MLS NEXT Pro is pretty clean now with 14 teams in each conference and 7 each making it to the playoffs so it works. You can coach Carolina Core if your goal is to collect as many trophies as possible on your way up the coaching pyramid (SI did give them a roster and information in the update, same with Spokane who I put in USL1) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigMattic1 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 21 hours ago, themodelcitizen said: Right, but who's gonna create 100+ players, staff, facilities, kits etc for them. Might as well keep the original NISA teams in there as they have all this stuff already, unless you want half a league of greyed out players. And keeping Chatta in NISA means it's still an even 9 teams and we can keep the 2023 format. They did switch to 4- and 5-team conferences this year, but they only work with the new 2024 team lineup (in 2023 there are only 2 western teams so having those conferences doesn't make sense). MLS NEXT Pro is pretty clean now with 14 teams in each conference and 7 each making it to the playoffs so it works. You can coach Carolina Core if your goal is to collect as many trophies as possible on your way up the coaching pyramid (SI did give them a roster and information in the update, same with Spokane who I put in USL1) Is that sort of information (players and staff) actually available? I know I find it hard to find data on staff and players for Canadian teams that I create. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerman500 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 On 17/09/2024 at 12:51, themodelcitizen said: Right, but who's gonna create 100+ players, staff, facilities, kits etc for them. Might as well keep the original NISA teams in there as they have all this stuff already, unless you want half a league of greyed out players. And keeping Chatta in NISA means it's still an even 9 teams and we can keep the 2023 format. They did switch to 4- and 5-team conferences this year, but they only work with the new 2024 team lineup (in 2023 there are only 2 western teams so having those conferences doesn't make sense). MLS NEXT Pro is pretty clean now with 14 teams in each conference and 7 each making it to the playoffs so it works. You can coach Carolina Core if your goal is to collect as many trophies as possible on your way up the coaching pyramid (SI did give them a roster and information in the update, same with Spokane who I put in USL1) I meant you could replace Chattanooga FC with Capo FC.... Since Capo FC is already in the game. And then add whoever you can find in FM24 Editor who's in on the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themodelcitizen Posted September 18 Author Share Posted September 18 (edited) Capo don't have any players either, they just get the auto-generated USL2 class every year if anything. I mean, anyone can go in and spend countless hours on new players, logos, data etc for their own amusement but it's kind of obvious by now that's way beyond the scope of this DB. I'm not sure I even created any players or staff yet, this way it works with other people's custom facepacks for other created leagues too. The team lineups are a bit of a hybrid between 2023 and 2024 because of the incomplete work from the US head researcher with each update and that might be what's bugging you, but that's inevitable, these lower leagues change every year so you have to draw a line somewhere. Best we can do is replicate the rules and format around their updates as much as possible Edited September 18 by themodelcitizen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themodelcitizen Posted September 21 Author Share Posted September 21 Tried to fix the MLS scheduling issue with a hidden stage but MLS really doesn't like being edited like that, the editor just crashes when you run a test. Might try creating the fixtures in another hidden competition and see if that doesn't break anything. In the meantime the in-game schedule is arguably better (everyone plays everyone at least once every year), but the real-life version is better for travel (more in-conference games, even if you don't get Messi/Miami home or away every year) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigMattic1 Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 I know it's a little early, but are you planning to do this file for FM25? I'm already planning my Canadian expansion and it runs well alongside your file on FM24. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themodelcitizen Posted September 27 Author Share Posted September 27 Still a little early to gauge my appetite for that. If they improve MLS (scheduling for example) that would help. Mind you, the lack of international footy is going to be a big turn-off... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigMattic1 Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 12 hours ago, themodelcitizen said: Still a little early to gauge my appetite for that. If they improve MLS (scheduling for example) that would help. Mind you, the lack of international footy is going to be a big turn-off... Don't you think it would also help if they put some effort into the editor itself? I see a lot of people on here saying the same thing. Usueto do with finding the errors. I mean, football (or soccer) in North America isn't as straightforward as in Europe, and it would help no end if you could go straight to the error. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themodelcitizen Posted September 29 Author Share Posted September 29 21 hours ago, EnigMattic1 said: Don't you think it would also help if they put some effort into the editor itself? I see a lot of people on here saying the same thing. Usueto do with finding the errors. I mean, football (or soccer) in North America isn't as straightforward as in Europe, and it would help no end if you could go straight to the error. Worst part is there are probably devs on here (who might even use our DBs) who know the answers to some of our more confusing questions, but they seem to have a hands-off approach with editor stuff as they probably don't want to be seen to be helping us get around licensing issues by enabling extra leagues Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigMattic1 Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 8 hours ago, themodelcitizen said: Worst part is there are probably devs on here (who might even use our DBs) who know the answers to some of our more confusing questions, but they seem to have a hands-off approach with editor stuff as they probably don't want to be seen to be helping us get around licensing issues by enabling extra leagues Yeah, I get that. I mean, obviously licencing issues would cause a problem, but surely other areas like salary caps, drafts, registration and generating players could be looked at. One thing I'd like to see, and I had to do an awkward workaround in order to achieve this, would be to be able to select a city and increase the likelihood of dual nationals of a certain nationality. But, that isn't relevant to this thread. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigMattic1 Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 This is (kinda) related to this thread, but it is also an editor type question that I could possibly get an answer to here. Obviously, there are a number if different contract types in American soccer. But, do those contract types work in other leagues in FM? Part of me thinks that there will be some hardcoding involved, but I'm not sure for certain. I thought I'd ask here before going into the editor forum and asking there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themodelcitizen Posted October 2 Author Share Posted October 2 I've always wondered that as well, same with some of the Australian league-specific ones. You should run a test and find out. I'm guessing lots would just default to full-time, or might show up as "designated player" or something on the contract screen but would function the same way as a full-time deal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themodelcitizen Posted 9 hours ago Author Share Posted 9 hours ago (edited) Making some minor changes like tweaking the NISA schedule and making it so the changes to the playoff structures in USL-1 and MLS NEXT Pro take effect in 2024. In the first season there's a nice symmetry in 6 out of 12 USL-1 teams going to the playoffs and the MLSNP conferences sending 7 out of 14 each, but I think part of the reason they changed it IRL is that the top teams don't actually always want the bye and the extra week off - just like in the game where home dates are your biggest source of income, your new reward for finishing top (along with a trophy) is an extra home date against a low-ranked team EDIT: Added a transfer file to the OP, this is separate as it's not entirely realistic but sets a transfer embargo for the D2 and D3 teams until after the first MLS draft - this means they won't poach the best USL2 and MLS Next talent, at least until after the first season, meaning the first draft class isn't as useless as it is when they get a hold of it. The vast majority of the affected teams have a deep enough roster to handle it, and by the second season, they should have a slightly more settled roster including with free agents from January 2024 so they don't poach young talent as hard (not sure there's a way to just block them from signing D4 or lower players). Backup Edited 5 hours ago by themodelcitizen 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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