szymunk Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 (edited) No one beats them in my save. I tried everything. My first thought was to plant 2 DMs and bang everything on the wings. I lost like 6-0. Then I went to 4-2-2-2 with 2DMs to bunker the middle and ended up the same. I am clueless. One time Cagliari used this tactic against me and ****** me 3-0 too. Is that some broken meta like 3 narrow forwards in FM15? This is my tactic (atalanta) Edited January 15 by szymunk aaaa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NineCloudNine Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 (edited) Sure it's not that their squad is stronger? That looks like a very good team... Off the top of my head your tactic is very attacking and depends on player movement to pull opponents out of position. If Inter's back 6 just sit tight they can absorb pressure then hit you on the break. They are vulnerable in the middle though, so I might be tempted to move your wingers down a strata. You also have a lot of TIs which are limiting your players' choices. I personally never use PIS, POOD, WBIB, DTFB, PSGKD or GSI. I'd rather let my players decide. That might be too much freedom for you, but certainly try releasing their chains a little maybe? Edited January 15 by NineCloudNine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
szymunk Posted January 15 Author Share Posted January 15 Sounds good. Im gonna give these tips a go next time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddux Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 What i do against a 4-2-2-2 when playing a 4-3-3 is the followin: - instruct my 2 CM to man-mark the opposing CAMs. That way their creative players and strikers are marked with my DM being a free man that can close holes - use the "trap outside" TI - remove POOD and all transition TIs except for counter and counter press plus i add WBIB POOD and distribute to xxx makes your buildup more predictable and easier to press. With WBIB your players will still try to play a controlled buildup but it's less predictable and you can better pull opponents out of their position. - i wouldn't use pass into space. The 4-2-2-2, even with defenders out of position, is still a very narrow formation and spaces are hard to find. Passing into space can result in your players losing the ball to often. - put the passing tempo one or 2 ticks higher. It should be easier to pull opponents around and your players have the technical abilities to pass faster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Jack Sarahs Posted January 15 SI Staff Share Posted January 15 They've got 4 central attacking players when they're countering or producing a quick direct attack. If you go with your current shape in FM, they're going to have a spare player most of the time. You have 2v2 at CB then 1DM against 2 AMC's. If you care primarily about stopping them and you're having an issue against this specific system i would consider a 3-4-2-1 type shape. 3CB's vs 2 ST (+1 in your favour for both defending and playing out) 2 DM's vs 2 AM's WB's free to step up and press the opposing FB's when the ball is on their side 2 AM's vs 2DM's 1ST vs their 2 CB's. Without getting into too much other detail as you haven't spoken about too much else other then the formation, from a numbers perspective this is where I would start against a 4-2-2-2 and especially a 4-2-2-2 in FM. Don't forget with the positional rotations feature you can start it in a 3-4-2-1 and make it look a lot different in possession after the rotations kick in. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aoyao Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 When to tweak his tempo in the game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasson Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 9 hours ago, Aoyao said: When to tweak his tempo in the game? I tend to play slower if my opponent are sitting back and the opposite if my opponent are pressing higher up the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusadertsar Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) I say when you cannot beat them then become them Barcelona has dominated my Real Sociedad side with its exotic Brazilian-style 4-2-2-2 (two DMs and 2 AMCs) for two games. They used a deadly combo of DLF Lewandowski and AF Victor Osimhen upfront! I was intrigued because never saw AI use this formation before. Decided to try it out and now cannot go back. Winning games for fun. Will be writing a proper tactical guide about it in my Jogo Bonito thread soon. Edited January 16 by crusadertsar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElJefe4 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 3 hours ago, crusadertsar said: I say when you cannot beat them then become them Barcelona has dominated my Real Sociedad side with its exotic Brazilian-style 4-2-2-2 (two DMs and 2 AMCs) for two games. They used a deadly combo of DLF Lewandowski and AF Victor Osimhen upfront! I was intrigued because never saw AI use this formation before. Decided to try it out and now cannot go back. Winning games for fun. Will be writing a proper tactical guide about it in my Jogo Bonito thread soon. Can't wait for this! Been trying to implement a Brazilian style 4222 in FM24 but struggled to succeed with any possession based system that doesn't look to build up in a 235/325. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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