georginho_juventusygr Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 Ralphie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakiie Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 Well, guess we finally got an upset? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haguey Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 Fair play Turkey, can't see them getting past the Netherlands but you never know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius1998 Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 Habsburgs 1-2 Osmanoglus 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOORAY HENRIK Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 Comms love overrating saves that though was incredible 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 What a game. Imagine not loving international football. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedwar Pump Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 That was hands down the best game I’ve watched this tournament, great stuff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_jagster Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 That was a fun watch, could have gone either way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smaldini Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 Disappointed for Austria, but the Turks have had a good tournament too and defended very well tonight. I think they’ll knock the Dutch out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTHerringbone Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 Entertaining stuff! Austria's final pass was so often absolutely terrible. I'd love to see what percentage of their long balls into the channels actually found an Austrian player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 That save was incredible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
av3ry Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 Enjoyed that. Despite my TV signal dying shortly after Austria scored which was a real ****-boiling moment. Had to watch the final 20 minutes on ITVX, casting it on to a device made the game lag, badly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shambolic Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 That save was one of those wonderful moments in football where I emit an involuntary noise. Incredible. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastRed Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 14 minutes ago, CFuller said: WHAT A SAVE! Gunok breaks Baumgartner's and Austria's hearts! Imagine the irony if ITV show a Red Bull advert after this. Sam got a "he gave them wings" quip in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 Gutted Austria didn't do that! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carambau Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 (edited) The save really wasn´t that special. The ball was near the keeper, he just needed a good reflex and got it. It was a very good save, but not a Gordon Banks or Oliver Kahn save. Edited July 3 by Carambau Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_jagster Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 Also Bellingham's overhead was easy and any footballer would have scored it. The new nerd stat has the header as a 94% chance of a goal, it's a 1 in 18 save in other words. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carambau Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 12 minutes ago, The_jagster said: Also Bellingham's overhead was easy and any footballer would have scored it. The new nerd stat has the header as a 94% chance of a goal, it's a 1 in 18 save in other words. You think so? I dont. These are two completely different chances/goals btw. So there is no need for inadequate populism. But since you started it, I will play along. Stats will explain everything for sure. Especially in football. Especially if you played in goal yourself and know these kind of saves from headers. For sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTHerringbone Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 It's a terrible take. This forum has seen plenty but downplaying that save is quite something 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
av3ry Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 Never a 0.94xG. wouldn't even be a Clear Cut Chance on FM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carambau Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 (edited) 1 hour ago, RTHerringbone said: It's a terrible take. This forum has seen plenty but downplaying that save is quite something It´s not. I´m just not riding the hype train Having played in goal for over 15 years helps a lot in understanding the level of difficulty of this save. It´s a matter of having good reflexes, yes. But the ball is quite close to the keeper that makes it way easier other than when you had to do a big jump to reach it like Gordon Banks in 1970 for example, so comparing it to that is quite a stretch. Plus the keeper could judge early he is going to head it downwards and he didnt hit it very hard either. And I am not saying it wasnt a very good save, it definitely was. But its not as good as it is being made with all that hype. Edited July 3 by Carambau Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigmatic Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 I think the new nerd stat might be exaggerating a little in the other direction. But although it's a nice height for the goalkeeper, he has to anticipate the header going back across him very early and get his footwork spot on to get all the way across to it: it's not just an outstretched arm it's a full dive. Think quite a few elite keepers are left doing star jumps as the ball sails past them from there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_fenton Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 There's no unfair hype about it, that's an absolute worldy of a save ffs. 6 yards out, skidding off a soaking wet pitch, and dealt with strongly enough to take it right away from goal rather than back into play where another attacker could challenge to follow it up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carambau Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 (edited) 43 minutes ago, m_fenton said: There's no unfair hype about it, that's an absolute worldy of a save ffs. 6 yards out, skidding off a soaking wet pitch, and dealt with strongly enough to take it right away from goal rather than back into play where another attacker could challenge to follow it up. The soaked pitch wasnt a disadvantage, if anything, it made the ball a small bit slower when it dropped. And of course he put it to the side and not back into play, that lies in the nature of that move as he hits it with speed from the side. When you save a ball like that, it 99% goes off to the side and not back into play. Edited July 3 by Carambau Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_jagster Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 4 hours ago, av3ry said: Never a 0.94xG. wouldn't even be a Clear Cut Chance on FM. The stat is based not on position of the chance, but the placement and power of the actual shot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 Demiral should rightly be banned from the quarter final for the wolf salute. A lot of bilge coming from the Turks that his gesture isn't supposed to be offensive. Demiral is known to be a genocide denier. Happy that he doesn't play for my beloved club anymore. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carambau Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 (edited) 10 hours ago, georginho_juventusygr said: Demiral should rightly be banned from the quarter final for the wolf salute. A lot of bilge coming from the Turks that his gesture isn't supposed to be offensive. Demiral is known to be a genocide denier. Happy that he doesn't play for my beloved club anymore. Absolutely spot on. He should be banned for the rest of the tournament. Turkey know how to play the victim card. Edited July 4 by Carambau Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
av3ry Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 Pretty sure you can get arrested for fascist salutes in Germany. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Dale Watkins Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 8 hours ago, av3ry said: Pretty sure you can get arrested for fascist salutes in Germany. The wolf salute is legal in Germany, but interestingly enough, not in Austria - so I think it was also meant as a little FY to Austria. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 Demiral - GONE! Two match ban. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carambau Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 11 hours ago, GunmaN1905 said: Demiral - GONE! Two match ban. Funny thing is, Erdogan will visit their game vs Holland and the stadium, consisting 99% of turkish fans, will do this salute AGAIN the whole game long Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 (edited) 3 hours ago, Carambau said: Funny thing is, Erdogan will visit their game vs Holland and the stadium, consisting 99% of turkish fans, will do this salute AGAIN the whole game long Although there is a right wing / Turko-extreme-nationalistic element among the Turkish/Turkish-descended people living in Germany, I know that plenty of them despise right wingers/fascists, like normal people do everywhere. I hope the cameras will highlight that only some in-duh-viduals will show that sign. Edited July 5 by DJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carambau Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 (edited) 17 minutes ago, DJ said: Although there is a right wing / Turko-extreme-nationalistic element among the Turkish/Turkish-descended people living in Germany, I know that plenty of them despise right wingers/fascists, like normal people do everywhere. I hope the cameras will highlight that only some in-duh-viduals will show that sign. I don´t know... EM 2024: Demiral-Sperre – Türkische Ultras fordern Fans zum Wolfsgruß im Berliner Stadion auf - WELT I guess we will see tomorrow. Edited July 5 by Carambau Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 21 hours ago, GunmaN1905 said: Demiral - GONE! Two match ban. Turkey wanted to appeal at CAS, but turns out bans of two matches or less or a ban of a month can't be appealed at CAS according to UEFA rules. So suspension is definitive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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