SpartanUTD Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 Can I buy a hard copy (DVD) of FM2024 in the UK? I don't want to depend on game platforms/Microsoft updates in order to have access to games I've already paid for. I am definitely not in a mood of experimenting with FM2025, just want to play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spedding Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 (edited) think its just codes in boxes now but you still need steam etc to play even if there was a disc Edited September 13 by Spedding Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartanUTD Posted September 13 Author Share Posted September 13 So, upgrading to WIN10 or 11 is unavoidable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fc.cadoni Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 Win 10 is the minimum winOS to play FM24 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartanUTD Posted September 13 Author Share Posted September 13 39 minutes ago, fc.cadoni said: Win 10 is the minimum winOS to play FM24 Maybe buying a new PC would be easier then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevjim Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 1 hour ago, SpartanUTD said: So, upgrading to WIN10 or 11 is unavoidable What's wrong with 10/11? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Marines Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 5 ore fa, SpartanUTD ha scritto: So, upgrading to WIN10 or 11 is unavoidable Well, Linux distros do exist... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scythian12 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 You can also get a MAC if you want to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR866Gunner Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 16 hours ago, Andrew Marines said: Well, Linux distros do exist... Been running FM24 & previous FM's on Linux Mint and a few other Distros for a few years now! Just managed to get The Sims running too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_G_32201 Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 outrage over game platforms to play the game...wait. what year is it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aim_Less Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 22 hours ago, stevie_G_32201 said: outrage over game platforms to play the game...wait. what year is it? Just because it's common doesn't make it right. It's an hassle specially when your forced to create an account so they can resell your data ( looking at you Ubisoft and Rockstar , EA) . Companies want to make all of the money with boundless greed . Gaming is heading towards another crash. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 On 13/09/2024 at 18:17, trevjim said: What's wrong with 10/11? He had another post where he mentioned his PC was still on Windows 8 and although he'd still been playing FM for a while even after the date that Steam stopped supporting anything before Windows 10, it has now stopped working for him. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartanUTD Posted September 17 Author Share Posted September 17 On 13/09/2024 at 18:17, trevjim said: What's wrong with 10/11? It'll make my laptop slower, like any new windows version, let alone that microsoft claims that none of my files will be deleted, but woth a "refresh" of WIN8, they were and I lost them forever. I don't trust the process, it'll waste time I don't have and using steam would be the only reason to do it, otherwise I'm happy with my old versions of hard copy software. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartanUTD Posted September 17 Author Share Posted September 17 On 14/09/2024 at 14:47, JR866Gunner said: Been running FM24 & previous FM's on Linux Mint and a few other Distros for a few years now! Just managed to get The Sims running too. Haven't got a clue how Linux works, but if you still need windows for other functions (ie Microsoft Office), what's the point to bottleneck your HD with 2 OS? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartanUTD Posted September 17 Author Share Posted September 17 It's wrong not to be able to play a game offline that we've a;ready bought. I don't give a flying monkey about steam, it was not my choice from the start, I SHOULD BE ABLE TO PLAY THE GAMES I PURCHASED even if that'd be online. I don't deal with anyone anyway, dont need online gaming. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 6 minutes ago, SpartanUTD said: It's wrong not to be able to play a game offline that we've a;ready bought. I don't give a flying monkey about steam, it was not my choice from the start, I SHOULD BE ABLE TO PLAY THE GAMES I PURCHASED even if that'd be online. I don't deal with anyone anyway, dont need online gaming. The problem with modern gaming, is even with buying software we don't own it like we did back in the day, we're simply buying a licence that allows us to use the software and that licence can technically be revoked at any time, or the conditions of use can change. The conditions with Steam are is that you need a modern OS, ie, Windows 10 or 11 and FM is tied up with Steam. Now, there are good reasons for this, mostly tied up in security. Microsoft no longer supports or updates Windows 8 and so it can become vulnerable to security threats. However, I do agree there should be an offline launcher still available for people who own legacy games and systems. This is one of the reasons I like GOG so much in that you get DRM free launchers than can be run without an internet connection being available. In cases like yours, unfortunately the only real option if you want to carry on playing is either upgrade your OS or buy a new computer. And I get that it sucks. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowflake Dave Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 12 minutes ago, SpartanUTD said: It'll make my laptop slower, like any new windows version, let alone that microsoft claims that none of my files will be deleted, but woth a "refresh" of WIN8, they were and I lost them forever. I don't trust the process, it'll waste time I don't have and using steam would be the only reason to do it, otherwise I'm happy with my old versions of hard copy software. All things are possible, just need the ways and hows. Install steam, and set it to play off line. I full solution would take more research than I'm prepared to do sorry but I'm sure it's possible. If you don't want spam sign-up to a free account on proton secure email, install their browser addon and every time you are asked for you email address on a website it'll offer to create a fake one which you can delete anytime or direct to the bin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kickballz Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 I'm with Spartan here. I mean seriously what is the point? I still use windows 98 and I can run sim city perfectly. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Marines Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 19 minuti fa, SpartanUTD ha scritto: Haven't got a clue how Linux works, but if you still need windows for other functions (ie Microsoft Office), what's the point to bottleneck your HD with 2 OS? There are Onlyoffice,Libreoffice or other alternatives. If you bought the 365 version, you can use it online just as you would on windows. Only certain fields need windows, common office computers can run Linux distros without any issue rn 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 I've hidden a couple of posts who are borderline discussing circumventing DRM. This being the official forum of the developer, this topic is not fit for discussion. Not claiming anyone advocated for it, but discussing it not allowed here still, sorry. Please don't discuss how or why anyone would do so here. If anyone has any objections, feel free to PM me and we can discuss it there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR866Gunner Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 On 17/09/2024 at 11:43, SpartanUTD said: Haven't got a clue how Linux works, but if you still need windows for other functions (ie Microsoft Office), what's the point to bottleneck your HD with 2 OS? Well, I dont lol I blew away Windows in the move Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arijit Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 On 17/09/2024 at 06:43, SpartanUTD said: Haven't got a clue how Linux works, but if you still need windows for other functions (ie Microsoft Office), what's the point to bottleneck your HD with 2 OS? Macbook is a viable alternative. I found Mac has balance of both Windows and Linux. Latest Macs got announced and now base model has default 16GB RAM (finally!). I play on a M3 MAX 48GB macbook, 150K player DB, never see a slowness even after many seasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnip Posted November 3 Share Posted November 3 I would like SI/SEGA to use a service like GOG more often. Particularly now that Valve have confirmed that you're only purchasing a license to play the game if you 'buy' it via Steam. Valve have long said "Hey, if Steam ever dies we'd disable the dial-home function", but that seems less and less likely the bigger the company gets. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aim_Less Posted November 3 Share Posted November 3 13 hours ago, turnip said: I would like SI/SEGA to use a service like GOG more often. Particularly now that Valve have confirmed that you're only purchasing a license to play the game if you 'buy' it via Steam. Valve have long said "Hey, if Steam ever dies we'd disable the dial-home function", but that seems less and less likely the bigger the company gets. Sadly this a industry wide thing with GOG being the only ones not pushing this. FM uses some steamworks features that you guess it require steam installed ( can that be avoided ? yes but it requires time and investment ) This is why voting with your wallet is important. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted November 3 Share Posted November 3 17 hours ago, turnip said: I would like SI/SEGA to use a service like GOG more often. GOG is awesome, but I don't think SI could do much. They have said before the licenses stop them from selling the game for more than a year, that's why you can't buy FM23 on Steam anymore. So they can't legally put it on GOG or any other service even if they wanted to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnip Posted November 3 Share Posted November 3 I don't think that's much of a problem. Most people understand that games are taking off sale for licensing issues pretty regularly (SEGA's Alpha Protocol was unavailable for sale for I think over a decade because of licensing and is now on sale again) and GOG are pretty good at notifying people of when that'll happen. I can still download FM21 from Steam if I want to (FM19 Touch, too, if I was feeling weird). I'm probably never going to touch the FM08 save (my favourite ever) that's sitting on one of my external hard drives, but I could if I wanted to because I have the physical disk somewhere. (Just don't ask me where). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted November 3 Share Posted November 3 8 minutes ago, turnip said: I can still download FM21 from Steam if I want to (FM19 Touch, too, if I was feeling weird). You can, if you bought it when it was for sale, but you can't buy it anyone there. If you wanted to buy FM21 now, you'd have to find a physical copy with a product code or use some grey zone retailer with questionable reliability. So sure, SI/SEGA could use GOG to sell the game, but that would just be the same as using Steam or Epic now, wouldn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arijit Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 (edited) I wish Sega could work with GOG, to remove licensed items, and make a modern machine compatible version for older titles. At least FM2005-2008. I'd buy them. Community can take care of the licensed items with help of mod files. Edited November 24 by Arijit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 7 hours ago, Arijit said: I wish Sega could work with GOG, to remove licensed items, and make a modern machine compatible version for older titles. At least FM2005-2008. I'd buy them. Community can take care of the licensed items with help of mod files. SI have said several times they'd love to do this, but the license agreement regarding the game prohibits it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arijit Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 Aah licensing concept sucks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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