jams1234 Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Right, here's what's happened: I'm playing as Nottingham Forest, on FM 08. In July I sign Bogdan Stancu in a 3m pound deal. ATM I'm in December, and he's scored 32 goals in 23 games for me, which is phenomenal! He's also top scorer in the league, as you'd expect with already breaching the 30 goal mark before the year ends. Now, I look at his value thinking it must have shot up by now, yet it hasn't. It's still 3m, which TBH I don't understand. It's also happened with a couple of my other players. Kalouda was signed for 3m, has got 9 goals so far in the league, highest assists and average rating in the league yet his value has dropped to 375k! Please could somebody tell me why this has happened, and how I could get my player's values up? Cheers:thup: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashOverride Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 You havent set his transfer value at 3mil have you? IE is the players transfer value a figure or unspecified? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jams1234 Posted January 2, 2009 Author Share Posted January 2, 2009 Nope . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mije1983 Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 The players value is always set at what you have bought him for originally. I believe it then starts levelling out to a real value dependent on the players quality and the league you are in etc. I'm sure someone will readily correct me when I'm wrong though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jams1234 Posted January 2, 2009 Author Share Posted January 2, 2009 When does it start levelling out? Why has Kalouda's dropped then, when Stancu's hasn't altered at all when it should be increasing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Girondins Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 It was buggy in 9.1. I was top of the League 1 and there were dozens of clubs constantly badgering me to buy my players for 50k or 60k which, the moment I secured promotion, became worth 2 or 3 mill+. Looks like more of the same in 9.2 .. Something isn't right because the transfer module only seems to be working 'realistically' at lower league clubs right now where players change hands for 0 - 250k. Top Tier transfers don't seem to be happening quite right; in terms of sums offered and accepted and the number of player registration movements. Is this maybe related to the player rep. bug we saw with youngsters and the tweak that was made to resolve it having a cascade effect on the transfer module? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mije1983 Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 But don't forget a players value is only what someone is willing to pay so I imagine it would be a market value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Girondins Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 But don't forget a players value is only what someone is willing to pay so I imagine it would be a market value. I think its the other way round; its what you are willing to accept. Also player values should always be tied to their CA and their contract. Anything above and beyond that is arbitrary and although the game largely does a good job of guestimating player worth based on ability, it does have this annoying niggle whereby a good team gets relegated and their values are wiped out by the 'auto balance to league' script or whatever they do to make 'levels' of worth within tiers of football. Which isn't always terribly realistic .. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jams1234 Posted January 2, 2009 Author Share Posted January 2, 2009 This is 8.0.2 BTW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Girondins Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 So it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomDixon77 Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Club reputation comes into it, as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mije1983 Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 I think its the other way round; its what you are willing to accept. Also player values should always be tied to their CA and their contract. Anything above and beyond that is arbitrary and although the game largely does a good job of guestimating player worth based on ability, it does have this annoying niggle whereby a good team gets relegated and their values are wiped out by the 'auto balance to league' script or whatever they do to make 'levels' of worth within tiers of football. Which isn't always terribly realistic .. Well you could look at it both ways I suppose. What teams are willing to pay and what the selling team will accept. But I think it's pefectly accceptable for the game to value players in lower leagues for less. An example would be Michael Kightly's transfer from Grays to Wolves. About £20,000 I think. Now if he was a Championship player at that time you could easily expect to pay 20 or 30 times that much at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jams1234 Posted January 4, 2009 Author Share Posted January 4, 2009 This is really confusing. Just finished the season, and after Daryl Murphy got 43 goals this season, in a late 20 goal flurry in the last 3 months, his value jumped from 300k to 1.1m, and rightly so. But Stancu has got 64 goals this season, and his value has dropped to 2.3m from 3m:confused: And Wilshere scored 2 goals against Blackburn in the LC, followd it up with a hat-trick in League 1 in the next match and his value went from 8k to 850k. WTF?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 It depends alot on the clubs reputation and the impact of his performances etc on the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jams1234 Posted January 4, 2009 Author Share Posted January 4, 2009 But all 3 of the values for all players that play for me are inconsistent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinGoodey Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Stancu is worth 2.3 million now - so that is probably his "correct" value. All it then means is that you paying 3 million was you paying over the odds for him! The others have changed to their "correct" value too. What was his official valuation at the club that you bought him from? Less than 3 mill I'm sure! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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