scott1228 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 the title says it all. also any help on a 4-4-2 tactic to accomadate this would help too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruf Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Simple really drop the mentality down, hold up ball on, forward runs on . I have mine set at 6, but then, i do play with 1 striker, set as target man, and a AMC just behind making the forward runs. It might sound counter productive to have your forward set so low but he will still get you goals as long as you have at least one forward making attacking runs, make sure he has high STR though and some creativity and off the ball will help Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yiiman Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Simple really drop the mentality down, hold up ball on, forward runs on . I have mine set at 6, but then, i do play with 1 striker, set as target man, and a AMC just behind making the forward runs.It might sound counter productive to have your forward set so low but he will still get you goals as long as you have at least one forward making attacking runs, make sure he has high STR though and some creativity and off the ball will help A striker like Robinho in my team doesn't have much strength. Can he play in this role for my team? Or should i have him play in the attacking striker role. Not the support striker role? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruf Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 A striker like Robinho in my team doesn't have much strength. Can he play in this role for my team? Or should i have him play in the attacking striker role. Not the support striker role? Hard to say without knowing the attributes of the player or even the level of league you are playing at. I play LLM rules almost exclusively myself. When he drops off he is gonna have a hulking CB up his arse so he needs to be able to hold him off for a little while so that the other ST/AMC/Wingers can make the the runs past him. A modicum of strength is needed and balance, passing and acceleration will also help. Give it a go for a few games, ideally in friendlies or a few games in reserves, see if he adapts well to it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyw_85 Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 A striker like Robinho in my team doesn't have much strength. Can he play in this role for my team? Or should i have him play in the attacking striker role. Not the support striker role? Yes he can. His stats lets him excel in both the support striker and the attacking striker. It depends on how you set him up. I disagree with Gruf's comment on the striker that drops off has to hold the ball. If the strikers drops deep, that must means his teammates are already near him. Why do he need to hold up the ball? IMO, the striker at the highest end of the pitch holds up the ball as he is isolated and has to wait for his teammates to run near him so he can pass the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruf Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 You may be right LWY, all i can say is in the 4-1-3-1-1 formation i created, my lone striker has 14 goals in 21 Matches, 7 assists, and links the whole front line beautifully That's the thing about FM, there is no RIGHT way to play it, it leaves space to create your own master plan for world domination Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyw_85 Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Oh, you are playing a 1 striker formation? That is different as he will be isolated alone as he is upfront alone, even though you have him to drop back! Yeah, there is no "one best way" to play it, but there are "a number of ways". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Give him Horlicks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yiiman Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Yes he can. His stats lets him excel in both the support striker and the attacking striker.It depends on how you set him up. I disagree with Gruf's comment on the striker that drops off has to hold the ball. If the strikers drops deep, that must means his teammates are already near him. Why do he need to hold up the ball? IMO, the striker at the highest end of the pitch holds up the ball as he is isolated and has to wait for his teammates to run near him so he can pass the ball. Thanks for the answer. I've tried Robinho in both roles. From the looks of it he's better at playing in the link support striker role. When played in the attacking striker role it it more likely that a defender will be marking him tightly and often headers from my CBs float over the midfield to Robinho where he cannot compete in the air. But if the ball comes through the midfield to him he is often in a decent position to score off his 2nd touch. However, in the support striker role Robinho can pull off the defense line and pick up the ball with a bit more space, and then start an attacking move for my team. However in this role he is less likely to be on the end of the attacking move. Most defenses however don't really give him much time and tackle Robinho hard. One more question I'd like to ask is? Most tactics require the Hold Up Ball box to be ticked for the supporting striker. I can understand the reason they do this. However for a striker like Robinho who gets tackled hard will not have the strength to make full use of Holding up the ball. Therefore should I just go ahead and untick this instruction. Sorry that I keep asking about Robinho but there are other strikers like him that need similar instructions eg. Vela. And as the Man City team thread suggests, Robinho is one of the hardest players to manage as not many have actually found the tactic which tends to replicate the success that Robinho has in real life. He obviously needs an specialist role instruction set which i have yet to figure out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyw_85 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 The reason why most tactics set the support striker to hold up ball because they believe that when a striker drops deep, he should hold up the ball. However, as my above post suggest, I don't believe the support striker should hold up the ball. Play to your players' strengths. Robinho can't hold up the ball so don't let him. Let him run with it instead. Currently I have Vela in my WBA team (stupid Arsenal not playing him), and I have set up like this. Mentality: 12 FWR: Mixed RWB: Mixed TTB: Mixed Cross: Mixed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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