sean_oc16 Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 I think it was some of the Others, but Frank did go on that errand so maybe he dropped some people from the freighter on the island? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosslarkin Posted March 21, 2008 Author Share Posted March 21, 2008 Originally posted by sean_oc16:I think it was some of the Others, but Frank did go on that errand so maybe he dropped some people from the freighter on the island? I assumed that errand was at the time of Naomi's original drop, at which point more could have landed on the island? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_oc16 Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 Possibly, I might have to watch through some eps again I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 Huh? The errand was after Sayid and Desmond left the island, Naomi was long dead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMaster#28 Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 Sayid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasnip1 Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 got a feeling the captains gonna say something like he knew michael was a fake anyway. Just to **** off Sayid, I would love that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bacon Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 Originally posted by rosslarkin:Have we established who the shooters could be though? Are we thinking someone off the boat or people from the Temple who didn't want Roussou or Karl there? Good episode though, nice of them to finally tie a few things off before the break I assumed whoever it was was sent by Ben to kill Karl and Roussou. They way Ben looked at Karl when he had his hand around Alex suggests he wants him out of the picture. And Roussou is abit mental and we dont know what went on between her and Ben in the past Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 Originally posted by jasnip1:got a feeling the captains gonna say something like he knew michael was a fake anyway. Just to **** off Sayid, I would love that yeah, I got that feeling myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasnip1 Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 anyway, so far what do you think 8 episodes in. For me theres so much going on its all a bit overwhelming, and its all a bit too much. So many characters split over different plots. Just fustrating how one week you get a story based around the beach lot, then you have to wait 3 episodes to get back to them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bacon Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 Just fustrating how one week you get a story based around the beach lot, then you have to wait 3 episodes to get back to them Was alot worse in season 1 and 2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J4m1e Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 Originally posted by RedRob:<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jasnip1: got a feeling the captains gonna say something like he knew michael was a fake anyway. Just to **** off Sayid, I would love that yeah, I got that feeling myself. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Same... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasnip1 Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 not realy, the cast were allways between one or two locations, now theres about 4 different things going on at once, and im not always sure if episodes are happening simultaneously or after previous episodes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasnip1 Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 contradicting what i said a little...the show is as intriguing as ever. I do miss the Dharma content though, but thats certain to return soon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JK Galgreefe Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 pretty awesome episode, i love lost. felt so sorry for alex at the end. although any episode with more alex than normal in it is fundamentally excellent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred_the_Red Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 My theory on who made the fake crash complete went up in smoke after this episode. This epidsode to me seems like a filler. I felt the whole Michael story was extended to fulfill a whole episode since the producers are under pressure to extend Lost to as many seasons as they can. I felt the story could have been told in half that time. I was suprise Tom being gay. And who was that ghost women that kept appearing to warn Michael. Was that the women he shot while on the island? Back in season 2 or something like that? If she is what was her role again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J4m1e Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 Originally posted by Fred_the_Red:My theory on who made the fake crash complete went up in smoke after this episode. This epidsode to me seems like a filler. I felt the whole Michael story was extended to fulfill a whole episode since the producers are under pressure to extend Lost to as many seasons as they can. I felt the story could have been told in half that time. I was suprise Tom being gay. And who was that ghost women that kept appearing to warn Michael. Was that the women he shot while on the island? Back in season 2 or something like that? If she is what was her role again? The "ghost woman" was libby, the woman he shot yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan petrov Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 Originally posted by Fred_the_Red:My theory on who made the fake crash complete went up in smoke after this episode. This epidsode to me seems like a filler. I felt the whole Michael story was extended to fulfill a whole episode since the producers are under pressure to extend Lost to as many seasons as they can. I felt the story could have been told in half that time. I was suprise Tom being gay. And who was that ghost women that kept appearing to warn Michael. Was that the women he shot while on the island? Back in season 2 or something like that? If she is what was her role again? She was one of tha tail-end survivors, with ana-lucia and Big Eko. She was also romantically involved with Hugo, iirc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MixitupMixitdictator Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 Looks like Aaron must be the 6th, which I find ridiculous tbh. loads of people say this but from the media's perspective i understand why they would do this loved Tom being gay, a nod too S3 Ep1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred_the_Red Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Ah yes she was seen at Hugo's mental hospital as one of the patients. Not much was known about her was there. Like what mental illness she had. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willigogs Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Originally posted by Fred_the_Red:This epidsode to me seems like a filler. I felt the whole Michael story was extended to fulfill a whole episode since the producers are under pressure to extend Lost to as many seasons as they can. I felt the story could have been told in half that time. Whilst I agree that it seemed a filler - I have no idea why they would do this anymore as we know when Lost is going to end now (40 episodes left FWIW). There's also al lot more to libby than meets the eye IMO, as she was also the one responsible for giving Desmond the boat that brought him to the island... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 How can you think the michael ep could be done in half the time? They missed out how they went from the boat in the south pacific or indian ocian and got back to NY. They couldnt have had any documentation. The fact you dont know who libby is when she is a vital reason for michaes mental state and his reinvolvment with ben shows you dont really have a clue. And I think its fairly obvious she didnt actually have a mental illness when she was in the hospital but was undercover. I'm sure we'll find out more about her in the future. Tom being gay basically a shout out to the geeks after theorising on his 'please kate you're not my type' back when she first got captured. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMaster#28 Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Originally posted by MixitupMixitdictator:<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Looks like Aaron must be the 6th, which I find ridiculous tbh. loads of people say this but from the media's perspective i understand why they would do this </div></BLOCKQUOTE> I said from the start he would be included in the six, as that is what the media would do in real life. No, one belived me though And I'm sure there's another twist too coming up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Fish Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Aye but we always knew he was gay then. OK Episode, was hoping for more from it. Alex looked awesome though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoroPhil Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 i find it hard to believe that widmore doesn't know everyone who was on the plane, esp as the freighter captain knew sayid's name (and desmond's). therefore, surely he would know who michael was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MixitupMixitdictator Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Francis Cole you could be my father. I half enjoyed the ep, wasn't that WTF to me. Stupid how Michael on that basic boat 'got home' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MixitupMixitdictator Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Got to be more to Miles saying he knew he wasn't Kevin J also Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jongi Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Originally posted by MixitupMixitdictator:Francis Cole you could be my father. I half enjoyed the ep, wasn't that WTF to me. Stupid how Michael on that basic boat 'got home' more likely that there were people waiting out there who are part of the Others to take them back to the US and sneak them in without the authorities knowing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMaster#28 Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Francis Cole you could be my father Interesting theory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoroPhil Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 no-one seems to have touched on michael being unable to kill himself. is this because they all have their destiny planned out and it wasn't the 'right' time for him to die? also, when the helicopter pilot was excitedly telling michael about the oceanic wreck it didn't sound like they were on their way to kill the survivors. or was he just trying to get michael to reveal himself? ofc, ben could be lying and widmore might not really be planning to kill them all. If they were, then why turn off the poisonous gas, since they had gas masks? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jongi Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Originally posted by BoroPhil:no-one seems to have touched on michael being unable to kill himself. is this because they all have their destiny planned out and it wasn't the 'right' time for him to die? also, when the helicopter pilot was excitedly telling michael about the oceanic wreck it didn't sound like they were on their way to kill the survivors. or was he just trying to get michael to reveal himself? ofc, ben could be lying and widmore might not really be planning to kill them all. If they were, then why turn off the poisonous gas, since they had gas masks? possible the pilot has not been briefed about that. on a need to know basis if you will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bacon Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Maybe the pilot isnt in on the reason for them wanting to get to the island. He may have just been picked to get them on the island (he seemed to be a very good pilot landing the chopper in the conditions he did). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bacon Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Damn you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 If michael was recruited not knowing the full mission I'm sure a pilot could have been also. The huge clay pigeon shooting mercenary guys made it kind of clear that it wasnt just an intel mission. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoroPhil Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 good point, good point, good point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Corleone Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Was the list that Ben told Micahel to get the same list Sayid has in the flashforwards that he has to kill do you think?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Doubtfull, I think ben is just a big fan of getting people to make lists. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spankie Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Originally posted by Anton:If michael was recruited not knowing the full mission I'm sure a pilot could have been also. The huge clay pigeon shooting mercenary guys made it kind of clear that it wasnt just an intel mission. Ben said that there were innocents aboard, the pilot and Dan are two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GloryHornet Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Originally posted by Hexhamlad:The episode was quite decent. I'm just pleased some time was spent clearing up the fake plane storyline. Fake plane hasnt been 'cleared up' Tom 'Mr Friendly' told Michael/Kevin that Charles Widmore paid for it Capt Gault told Sayid and Desmond that Ben paid for it Hows that cleared up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MixitupMixitdictator Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 The powers that be a while back hinted the Island may not be even an island, it's clearly "god" or some ****... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 What? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MixitupMixitdictator Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 in an interview, Carlton and the other dude, alluded the island may not be an island. I believe in the book IT an island is in fact a giant turtle that represented all that is good......it's something along those lines. I mean i remember the island being hollow underneath when it tried to drag Locke down, something is clearly up. Also they repeated "ancient civilization" a couple of times on the latest podcast, i get the impression the island is going to be revealed as the place that birthed man.....and is a giant judgment tool Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMaster#28 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 If by powers at be you mean the producers? Didn't they always say it wouldn't be god or aliens or anything, but a rational explination. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MixitupMixitdictator Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 *hence it's ability to affect Michael off the island (which alot of people are angered at) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred_the_Red Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Yeah I thought about that too. I thought one of the people on the helicopter said Ben had something to do with the fake plane and they wanted to find out why. I believe Ben more over Widmore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan petrov Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Michael is hilariously naive or just asking for trouble taking this 'suicide mission' If things dont go to plan, or he backs out, Ben knows where Walt is and can, again, use him to get what he wants from Michael. The plot has meandered here and there but I want someone to put a bullet through Michael'shead so we can see more of the interesting, central characters like Locke and Sawyer. MixedupMixperson - the producers confirmed it wasnt a form of purgatory, and the people werent dead as speculated, but they never said what it was. I hope there is a rational explanation but its just not going to have one, the black smoke physically killed big Eko so that isnt some sort of hallucination. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bacon Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Michael wants to die. If he takes the mission and they manage to kill him, then he wont care. If he is successful he saves the Losties Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knapp... Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 why did bens group rely on michael to destroy the boat? surely there was a better option/person to do such an important job? i mean the boat would of found the island if it wasn't for michael, can't believe that he was there best option of destroying the boat tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandaLUFC Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Because, I believe, that Ben wanted information on the freighties, their operation, what they are planning etc - seemed like a good way to use a powerless pawn to get that information. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bacon Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Who would be willing to die to do it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knapp... Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Originally posted by pandaLUFC:Because, I believe, that Ben wanted information on the freighties, their operation, what they are planning etc - seemed like a good way to use a powerless pawn to get that information. but it seemed such a crucial role with the islands future in the balance. ben seems to have alot of resources available and people willing to do anything for him so for him to ask michael to do it seemed wrong, felt like a way to get him back in the story line more than any logical reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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